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Old 09-30-12, 11:56 PM   #126
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I can ask a bystander to do anything. He's not compelled to obey my requests. As for what I can make him do, I can order him to give me space and not crowd my scene. But we're talking moving back a matter of yards though, not making him leave altogether.
What you can (lawfully) ask of a private citizen and what is often implied when you ask in a certain way...those can be two very different things. This is what really bugs me with how many police officers choose to operate.
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Old 10-01-12, 03:14 AM   #127
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not a cop but TSA officer.

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Old 10-01-12, 11:48 AM   #129
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Punching a girl in the mouth for mistakenly thinking should threw the liquid, looks like an appropriate use of force.
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not a cop but TSA officer.
You should see what some (not all) cops do when they find a corpse in a house where there is alot of money and jewelry laying around.
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Old 10-01-12, 04:19 PM   #131
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You should see what some (not all) cops do when they find a corpse in a house where there is alot of money and jewelry laying around.
Is that before or after the use of a No-Knock warrant to chase down bogus drug leads?
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Wow....how does one defend that kind of action?
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Old 10-01-12, 05:47 PM   #133
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"Please speak to my union rep."
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IA has apparently opened up and investigation and the officer has been put on desk-duty while the investigation is going on. I don't like his odds.
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Old 10-01-12, 06:26 PM   #135
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IA has apparently opened up and investigation and the officer has been put on desk-duty while the investigation is going on. I don't like his odds.
Nope. I would say he's hosed. He's a lieutenant too from what I've read, so he certainly should know better.
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Old 10-01-12, 07:06 PM   #136
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And of course the other cops around him don't blink an eye.
Lot of fatasses in that group, too.
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Old 10-01-12, 07:10 PM   #137
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Lot of fatasses around the cops, as well. He was just giving her a mustache slap.

Also, it's convenient we don't see what she was doing BEFORE this video was taken. Is there more?
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Old 10-01-12, 07:49 PM   #138
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Lot of fatasses around the cops, as well. He was just giving her a mustache slap.

Also, it's convenient we don't see what she was doing BEFORE this video was taken. Is there more?
Of course...because I'm sure she deserved to be assaulted by a guy who outweighed her by 80-100+ lbs.
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Old 10-01-12, 08:05 PM   #139
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She could have called the guy a N***er. Then what.

Weight has virtually nothing to do with determining whether a person is a threat or not. Do this and you'll certainly get yourself hurt. And killed. In any case, she could have been throwing objects at officers. And if this was the case, then they are totally justified. The video seems to indicate this, so it would really be nice to have another minute of video prior to this video.

You don't throw shit at officers during a protest. They will take you down. You will feel pain.
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She could have called the guy a N***er. Then what.
So? I bet he's been called that more than a few times on the job, actually. Trained professionals don't react that way to words. There is literally nothing she could have done before the camera rolled to justify that response. Nothing.
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I was outside a bar in Philly once when a fight broke out. I of course broke out the cell phone camera and was rolling while the cops inside were trying to break it up. Next thing I know a cop pulled up on his bike and slapped my phone right out of my hand smashing it on the ground.

As the crowd starting yelling stuff about what the officer did he actually said the words "I was trying to stop my bike." Somehow he needed to smash my phone in order to stop his bicycle.

Well I wasn't going to argue. I picked my phone pieces up off the floor and walked off. I had heard enough about Philly cop reputations to say a word. The video file was corrupt.
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So? I bet he's been called that more than a few times on the job, actually. Trained professionals don't react that way to words. There is literally nothing she could have done before the camera rolled to justify that response. Nothing.
Tend to have to agree.
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Old 10-01-12, 08:19 PM   #143
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This woman walks right up to the cops and does something. How many people would do this during a dozen cops who are detaining/arresting somebody? Is this normal behavior for a typical law-abiding person?

As to name-calling, if this was a White dude calling a Black cop a particular word, this post would in the Cops Behaving Awesome thread. And it may not have been a certain word. She may have actually called out a threat. Then what.


If you notice right at the beginning of the video, she is about to be approached by a cop. She's jumping up and down directly behind another one. Then she leaves and then comes back...this is where her actions are undetermined. Seems to me she's been taunting the cops and needs to shut the fuck up and leave the scene and let the cops do their jobs.

She learned the hard way.
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She learned the hard way? I guess he learned the hard way that in this day and age, chances are there's a camera rolling somewhere and these kinds of "lessons" aren't appreciated.
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Looking at this in an unbiased and philosophical way...they both learned.
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She learned the hard way.
Do you know who else takes that approach....batterers & wife-beaters. It is not acceptable to hit a woman. Unless she is about to kill you or someone else, you just don't do that. What makes it worse is that he is in a position of authority. I'm sure he feels like a man now because "he taught her". I hope he gets fired and serves time....then maybe he'll "learn the hard way."
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Ok, I took a closer look at the video. From the first instant it is shown, it appears she has an empty bottle, waving it up and down like she's making sure she gets the last drop out, and I'd say she emptied it on nearby officers just before the video.

Another cop points out who it was, then the guy in white goes after her. Sounds like she started to leave in a hurry when they seemed to have called out to her to stop.

But hey, it was water. And she's a female. I definitely smell the V-word here. Victim.
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It appears that she was cheering at the start of the video and moved around the crowd to get a better vantage point. She was most likely not involved in the scuffle and just happened to be one of the many bystanders watching what was going on. Clearly a man can be seen throwing the water and the woman moved to get out of the way. She's even stepping out of the way when the officer decks her in the mouth. From what I can see she absolutely in no way did anything to deserve that cop to arrest/question her much less a punch to the teeth.

I hope that dick loses his job. Even if she had been the one to throw the water, he's a police officer and should be a fucking adult about the situation instead of acting like a child.
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But hey, it was water. And she's a female. I definitely smell the V-word here. Victim.
Agreed...but probably not how you mean. She was a victim of police brutality.

Even if she did empty her water bottle and even if she yelled the nastiest slurs in the English (whatever) language...does that warrant her being punched in the face by a police officer? How is that not an over-reaction? He had to "control the situation" and he had to "exert his authority."

The Big bad cop just 'restored order'....or assaulted a woman. Toe-may-to....Toe-Mah-to.
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Ok, and also, if you notice the uhhh Wife Beater Attack...it's not. I know that will just give a few of you some limpies, but if you look at where she's holding a bottle, which is by her mouth, it looks like he's trying to swipe it out of her hands, but accidentally gets her in the mouth.

In other words, I'm pretty sure this cop would not have clocked her in the mouth, if both of her hands were lowered. He was going for the bottle.
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