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Old 04-18-17, 11:11 PM   #5251
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Old 04-24-17, 06:36 PM   #5253
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Here's this fake ass tough guy having inmates dying at his jail. I hope the family gets paid millions for this wrongful death that may be an act of murder.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-died-...201319942.html

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Old 04-25-17, 11:32 AM   #5254
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Here's this fake ass tough guy having inmates dying at his jail. I hope the family gets paid millions for this wrongful death that may be an act of murder.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-died-...201319942.html

Fuck Dave Clarke.
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Old 05-05-17, 06:23 PM   #5255
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If it wasn't for the camera

Murder warrant issued for fired Texas cop who killed 15-year-old Jordan Edwards

http://abcnews.go.com/US/murder-warr...ry?id=47238702
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Old 05-06-17, 06:49 AM   #5256
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Murder warrant issued for fired Texas cop who killed 15-year-old Jordan Edwards

http://abcnews.go.com/US/murder-warr...ry?id=47238702
They did a blurb on Good Morning America this morning on this. It did mention that on the tape you can hear what sounded like gun shots. In some cases police can shoot fleeing suspects. They must be able to show that allowing them to flee would put the public at greater risk than shooting. To use a highly publicized example; the Tsarev brothers. Since their violence was known to authorities, it could be argued that letting them run would put the public at great risk.

I'm gathering from the piece that he'll try and convince the jury he believed this truck just did a drive-by shooting or something that would justify immediate action.

Don't flame me. I'm not condoning what he did because I still think he'll be skating on thin ice. I'm just basing my guess on what they said. I think in order to be successful, bullets would have had to whiz by his head, or he observed concrete physical proof that shots were fired. Neither of which happened.
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Old 05-06-17, 06:59 AM   #5257
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Rochester NY. In a case of irony, the officer who is about to received the "Officer Of The Year" award has been suspended for an incident involving a dirt bike.

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Two Rochester police officers have been suspended over an incident caught on video, Rochester Police Chief Michael Ciminelli said Thursday.
The officers, who were not identified by the department, were responding to complaints about noise involving a dirt bike on Sunday night on Northampton Street, Ciminelli said at a news conference. They have been suspended with pay.
Michael Mazzeo, the president of the Rochester Police Locust Club, the police union, said the suspensions weren't justified. The video, Mazzeo said, shows officers in a police car approaching a man on a dirt bike from behind, getting out of their car, and then pulling the man off the bike. The man is thrown to the ground after being pulled off the bike.
"The video does raise some concerns, and based on the available documentation we have, we couldn't answer those concerns," Ciminelli said. He said the case was referred to the department's Professional Standards Section for a full investigation.
Four officers were at the scene. The two suspended officers were field training officers who were training two new recruits, whose job was only to observe. The role and participation of the new officers will be part of the investigation, Ciminelli said.

"We need to understand the justification for the use of force," he said. He stressed that the suspensions should not be interpreted as a finding of guilt or misconduct. Northampton Street runs between Emerson and Bergen streets in the Lyell-Otis neighborhood in northwest Rochester.
Read more:Critics seek overhaul of police conduct review
A body camera worn by an officer did not capture the incident, Ciminelli said. A draft police report was completed; it had not been reviewed and approved.
The person who was apprehended in the video was given a traffic ticket for unlicensed operation, Ciminelli said.
"Whenever an officer uses force, that officer has an obligation to articulate the justification for the force," Ciminelli said. "That's what we have to get into — why it was done, how it was done, did it follow our training, our policies, and that's what we're going to be looking at."
Mazzeo reiterated that the union thinks the suspensions are unwarranted. He said the officers were "acting on information they had." Mazzeo neglected to reveal the nature of the information.
"The takedown was appropriate in order to secure this individual who wasn’t complying," Mazzeo said. "The information that they had gave them the need to even use extra caution. There is intelligence and information relevant to this individual. I’m sure the department doesn’t want to put that out there, but they certainly have access to it."
Mazzeo said department administration isn't sending the right message to officers with these suspensions. He said suspensions are rare. "This is a knee-jerk reaction to a video," Mazzeo said. Officers don't feel supported, he said.

“It’s time the chief starts running the department," Mazzeo said, "instead of running away from any media attention that is directed at him.”


There has been a big problem with illegal dirt bikes. No insurance, no registration, no license, No helmets, a lot of noise. When the police approach, the kids just take off. The bikes are faster than an officer and can go places the cars can't. The only way to get them was to approach from behind and tackle them before they could take off. Once the video hit the Mayor announced that the police will no longer pursue dirt bikes ridden illegally.

Say what you will about tactics. If you don't like them then change them. But not enforcing laws is not a way to improve the quality of life in the city. These things are loud and she just gave them carte blanche to thumb their nose at their neighbors.
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Old 05-08-17, 01:49 PM   #5258
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One step forward, two steps back.

‘Roadblocks end where the white people start’: Mississippi sheriff enforces segregation, lawsuit claims

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/road...awsuit-claims/
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Old 05-08-17, 03:39 PM   #5259
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Rochester NY. In a case of irony, the officer who is about to received the "Officer Of The Year" award has been suspended for an incident involving a dirt bike.

Initial report:

Spoiler:
Two Rochester police officers have been suspended over an incident caught on video, Rochester Police Chief Michael Ciminelli said Thursday.
The officers, who were not identified by the department, were responding to complaints about noise involving a dirt bike on Sunday night on Northampton Street, Ciminelli said at a news conference. They have been suspended with pay.
Michael Mazzeo, the president of the Rochester Police Locust Club, the police union, said the suspensions weren't justified. The video, Mazzeo said, shows officers in a police car approaching a man on a dirt bike from behind, getting out of their car, and then pulling the man off the bike. The man is thrown to the ground after being pulled off the bike.
"The video does raise some concerns, and based on the available documentation we have, we couldn't answer those concerns," Ciminelli said. He said the case was referred to the department's Professional Standards Section for a full investigation.
Four officers were at the scene. The two suspended officers were field training officers who were training two new recruits, whose job was only to observe. The role and participation of the new officers will be part of the investigation, Ciminelli said.

"We need to understand the justification for the use of force," he said. He stressed that the suspensions should not be interpreted as a finding of guilt or misconduct. Northampton Street runs between Emerson and Bergen streets in the Lyell-Otis neighborhood in northwest Rochester.
Read more:Critics seek overhaul of police conduct review
A body camera worn by an officer did not capture the incident, Ciminelli said. A draft police report was completed; it had not been reviewed and approved.
The person who was apprehended in the video was given a traffic ticket for unlicensed operation, Ciminelli said.
"Whenever an officer uses force, that officer has an obligation to articulate the justification for the force," Ciminelli said. "That's what we have to get into ó why it was done, how it was done, did it follow our training, our policies, and that's what we're going to be looking at."
Mazzeo reiterated that the union thinks the suspensions are unwarranted. He said the officers were "acting on information they had." Mazzeo neglected to reveal the nature of the information.
"The takedown was appropriate in order to secure this individual who wasnít complying," Mazzeo said. "The information that they had gave them the need to even use extra caution. There is intelligence and information relevant to this individual. Iím sure the department doesnít want to put that out there, but they certainly have access to it."
Mazzeo said department administration isn't sending the right message to officers with these suspensions. He said suspensions are rare. "This is a knee-jerk reaction to a video," Mazzeo said. Officers don't feel supported, he said.

ďItís time the chief starts running the department," Mazzeo said, "instead of running away from any media attention that is directed at him.Ē


There has been a big problem with illegal dirt bikes. No insurance, no registration, no license, No helmets, a lot of noise. When the police approach, the kids just take off. The bikes are faster than an officer and can go places the cars can't. The only way to get them was to approach from behind and tackle them before they could take off. Once the video hit the Mayor announced that the police will no longer pursue dirt bikes ridden illegally.

Say what you will about tactics. If you don't like them then change them. But not enforcing laws is not a way to improve the quality of life in the city. These things are loud and she just gave them carte blanche to thumb their nose at their neighbors.
Yep. As a dirt biker, I agree. You can't just ignore it. I plate and insure my bikes, and drive with extreme caution, on the road.

Ignoring it is going to give the OK to end up like the shitty situation in Baltimore.
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Obviously going to be perceived as being slanted toward the police officer in question however claims the prosecution has made several concessions regarding previously assumed facts.

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A jury has been set in the Manslaughter trial of Tulsa Police Officer Betty Shelby. The jury, heavily weighted with females including two African Americans, has heard two days of testimony from witnesses called by the prosecution and things aren’t going that well for the prosecution team causing some to ask why certain witnesses are being used.

The state acknowledged in their opening statement that Terrence Crutcher’s car window was indeed down, which goes against what activists and lawyers for the Crutcher family have previously said to the media.

Officer Shelby had previously said that Crutcher’s behavior was highly erratic and he refused to follow multiple commands. She said that when he walked to his car and reached inside, she fired one round, fearing for her life
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Old 05-11-17, 05:29 PM   #5261
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Here's this fake ass tough guy having inmates dying at his jail. I hope the family gets paid millions for this wrongful death that may be an act of murder.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-died-...201319942.html

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Old 05-12-17, 02:22 PM   #5262
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Bam, Lee Baca gets 3 years in prison.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/sheriff-r...070802518.html


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Former Los Angeles Sheriff Lee Baca was sentenced Friday to three years in prison for obstructing an FBI investigation into abuses at the jails he ran.

The 74-year-old Baca, who is in the early stages of Alzheimer's disease, was sentenced by a judge who has shown little leniency when it comes to Baca's role atop a department rife with corruption.

U.S. District Court Judge Percy Anderson said he would have sentenced Baca to five years in prison except for his years of service and the Alzheimer's diagnosis.

The judge, however, took exception to a defense contention that Alzheimer's is a sentence of its own.

"As awful as Alzheimer's diseases, it's not a criminal penalty," Anderson said. "Alzheimer's disease is not a get-out-of-jail card."

Baca was ordered to turn himself in July 25 to begin serving his sentence.

As he walked out of the courthouse Friday morning, Baca told reporters that it had been "an interesting day" and thanked his supporters for standing by him.

"For 48 years, he served the people of Los Angeles with all his might, with all his heart," his attorney, Nathan Hochman, said. "He gave it his all, all the time."

The lawman, who worked his way up from guarding inmates to running the nation's largest jail system — and largest sheriff's department — was convicted in March of obstructing justice, conspiring to obstruct justice and lying to federal authorities.

Baca abruptly resigned in 2014 as the probe netted several underlings who plotted to hide an inmate informant from his FBI handler when they learned the jails were being investigated. Baca had learned of the probe after a cellphone that the informant used to communicate with his handler was found in his jail cell, prosecutors said.

"I will never accept a cellphone in the county jail given to a career criminal. I don't care who gives it," Baca said.

The crimes tarnished Baca's reputation as a man on a mission to promote education and rehabilitation behind bars and who preached tolerance and understanding between people of different cultures and faiths.

The case made it difficult to reconcile the image of the soft-spoken, rail-thin, Zen-like reformer with the man who told the local FBI head and top federal prosecutor he was ready to "gun up" for battle with them and furiously stated: "I'm the goddamn sheriff, these are my goddamn jails."

Baca, who jetted around the world to speak about his approach to law enforcement, denied any involvement in the scandal, but acknowledged he had fallen out of touch with what was happening in his department. But prosecutors said he had turned a blind eye to problems at his jails, including vicious beatings by guards who covered up the abuse by falsifying records.

Baca's "crimes showed that corruption went all the way to the top," Assistant U.S. Attorney Brandon Fox wrote in sentencing papers suggesting a two-year prison term. "Instead of acting as a leader, Baca distanced himself from the actions of his subordinates, and lied about his own conduct."

Prosecutors also won convictions against 20 other members of the department for crimes ranging from assaults by rank-and-file deputies to the department's second-in-command, Paul Tanaka, who oversaw efforts to derail the federal probe.

While Tanaka, also convicted of the obstruction and conspiracy charges, was sentenced to five years in prison, prosecutors said Baca deserves the lighter term because there was no evidence he tampered with witnesses and Tanaka fostered a culture of corruption. They also cited Baca's degenerative disease.

Baca had originally pleaded guilty to a single count of lying to federal investigators in a deal that would have required no more than six months in prison. But when Judge Percy Anderson rejected that as too lenient, Baca withdrew his plea.

Prosecutors then hit him with the two additional obstruction counts. At Baca's first trial, a jury deadlocked 11-1 for acquittal and a mistrial was declared. He was convicted three months later by a different jury at his second trial.

Defense attorney Nathan Hochman said Baca's misdeeds over six weeks in 2011 and four false answers to 400 questions during a voluntary interview with authorities in 2013 must be weighed against an "extraordinary record of public service" over 48 years and along with his condition, which has progressed from mild cognitive impairment to mild dementia.

More than 200 friends and supporters wrote letters of support to the court on behalf of Baca, including former Mexican President Vicente Fox, former California Govs. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Gray Davis, former Los Angeles Ram-turned-minister Rosey Grier, former Dodgers manager Tommy Lasorda, Hollywood executives, former jailbirds — even a public relations executive whose firm represents the deputies union that has been critical of Baca.

They hailed his unconventional style of policing, his compassion and a lifetime of good works.

Hochman plans to appeal, challenging several of Anderson's rulings that he said were improper and showed bias toward Baca, including a decision not to allow medical experts to testify whether Baca's medical condition impaired his memory when he lied to federal authorities.

"This diagnosis is a sentence of its own," Hochman wrote. "In this case, a sentence of imprisonment is essentially a cognitive death sentence given the progression of Mr. Baca's Alzheimer's disease."
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lawofficer.com

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Officer Shelby found not guilty. The jury which included eight women and four men three of which were African American.

jury acquits Tulsa cop

In the story the defense states the deceased was acting erratically and was not following instructions. PCP was later found in his system. The family says the defense was demonizing the victim.
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