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Old 02-07-08, 10:20 AM   #51
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Suffice it to say, he doesn't purposely let people know it. I don't know if things have changed, but a few months ago there wasn't a mention of it or anything at all on his official site.
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Old 02-07-08, 10:22 AM   #52
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Hussein Obama - and we've got people out there voting for him.
Yes, let us laugh at those idiots who don't make their voting decisions based on somebody's name.
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Old 02-07-08, 10:24 AM   #53
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Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton
Barack Hussein Obama
Michael Dale Huckabee
Johnny Reid Edwards
Maurice Robert Gravel
Rudolph William Louis Giuliani
Thomas Gerard Tancredo
Willard Mitt Romney
William Blaine Richardson III
Duncan Lee Hunter
Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr.
Christopher John Dodd
Dennis John Kucinich
Freddie Dalton Thompson

I'm sooooo disappointed in you wenders.

Or did you do that on purpose, asshole?
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Old 02-07-08, 10:27 AM   #54
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Please!!

My god! We poke fun on this forum for a bunch of silly things.

Let's not take everything so seriously.
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Old 02-07-08, 10:28 AM   #55
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I'm sooooo disappointed in you wenders.

Or did you do that on purpose, asshole?
I left out McCain and Paul because they were mentioned in that earlier post regarding ACU ratings. I included every other legitimate candidate I could find.
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Old 02-07-08, 10:30 AM   #56
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I left out McCain and Paul because they were mentioned in that earlier post regarding ACU ratings. I included every other legitimate candidate I could find.


I wasn't even looking for McCain's name so I just noticed one missing.
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Old 02-07-08, 10:41 AM   #57
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I wasn't even looking for McCain's name so I just noticed one missing.
Shocking. I am shocked. Utterly.
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Old 02-07-08, 10:44 AM   #58
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I don't believe any of our candidates (GOP or Dem.) are evil. Therefore, I don't have that problem.

I'd have a HUGE problem in Huckabee - Hillary fight; I dread even thinking of it.
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Old 02-07-08, 10:51 AM   #59
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Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton
Her parents named her after Diane Fossey.
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Old 02-07-08, 10:54 AM   #60
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I left out McCain and Paul because they were mentioned in that earlier post regarding ACU ratings. I included every other legitimate candidate I could find.
You also included Senator Gravel.

And I thought everyone who hadn't been living under a rock knew that Senator Obama's middle name was Hussein and that he attended a madrassa in Indonesia when he was a small child.
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Old 02-07-08, 10:59 AM   #61
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Old 02-07-08, 11:08 AM   #62
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He also steps on puppies in his spare time... such nonsense
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Old 02-07-08, 11:08 AM   #63
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Give me a break. Any vote for a third party candidate OR a "stay home and protest" action is the same as throwing your vote away. To quote Rush (the band, not the radio personality), "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice". Man-up.... vote for one of the TWO viable choices. And if neither particularly appeals to you, then vote against the one that turns you off the most.

As for me, I'm a Constitutionalist. The GOP is much more inline with my leanings than the Dems are, and though I'm uncomfortable with McCain winning the GOP nomination, I shudder to think what a Hillary or Obama presidency would be like, particularly with the Dems in control of the Congress. I see both of them as socialists that would be hurtful to our national security and our business base. My vote (in this scenario) would be based on the lesser of two evils, and I would MUCH rather see McCain sitting in the White House than I would either of the frontrunning Democrat candidates.

I expect many will disagree with my reasoning, and that's fine. I would be voting for the candidate who more closely aligns with MY priorities. If all of you twenty-something Jolt-cola-addicted American-Idol-watching X-Gamers vote differently, that's just dandy -- it's what makes a representative democracy work best, even if I *do* think most of you are caffiene-addicted idiots.
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Old 02-07-08, 11:15 AM   #64
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, and though I'm uncomfortable with McCain winning the GOP nomination, I shudder to think what a Hillary or Obama presidency would be like, particularly with the Dems in control of the Congress. I see both of them as socialists.....
And that's the way a lot of Republicans are going to ultimately see it, IMO.

And some Democrats who say that's its a slam dunk in November for the Democrats are dead wrong.
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Old 02-07-08, 11:20 AM   #65
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Give me a break. Any vote for a third party candidate OR a "stay home and protest" action is the same as throwing your vote away. To quote Rush (the band, not the radio personality), "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice". Man-up.... vote for one of the TWO viable choices. And if neither particularly appeals to you, then vote against the one that turns you off the most.
Bah... that's just a cynical defeatist attitude and rooted in a "choice in candidates won't ever get better than this". I know that many succumb to the "lesser of two evils" approach, and that's ok.

When there isn't someone that I feel that I can vote FOR, then I don't vote. And IMO, it is those of us without a choice who truly have the right to complain... not those who voted. (I know that this view is upside down from the majority opinion)
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Old 02-07-08, 11:25 AM   #66
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Bah... that's just a cynical defeatist attitude and rooted in a "choice in candidates won't ever get better than this". I know that many succumb to the "lesser of two evils" approach, and that's ok.

When there isn't someone that I feel that I can vote FOR, then I don't vote. And IMO, it is those of us without a choice who truly have the right to complain... not those who voted. (I know that this view is upside down from the majority opinion)
I agree with you, but that's why I see voting third party as so important. If you stay home, the party elite have no way of knowing that you would have voted if you'd have had a candidate to support.

If you vote third party, with a party most closely representing your views, then you are at least showing Washington that you do have a voice. The third party may not be viable today, or even tomorrow, but it's more viable than "no one".


and to Kenbuzz:
Basically I've come to see your stance as being nothing more than a cheerleader for the devil.
Sorry.
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Old 02-07-08, 11:58 AM   #67
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Give me a break. Any vote for a third party candidate OR a "stay home and protest" action is the same as throwing your vote away. To quote Rush (the band, not the radio personality), "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice". Man-up.... vote for one of the TWO viable choices. And if neither particularly appeals to you, then vote against the one that turns you off the most.
Sorry, but that doesn't work. With Romney out, all of the remaining candidates are equally unviable, and they all turn me off to equal degrees (but for different reasons). They only thing that really stands out among the candidates is the betrayal I feel from McCain. I think he is a disgrace to his military service, and a disgrace to his party. Right now, I'm mulling over these two options:

-Pull the lever for Hillary or Obama, cause you cant fathom a McCain presidency?

-Sit this one out, and use it as a protest non-vote.

Which one I will choose, I won't know until November 4th.
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I still don't understand this vitriol on the part of conservatives. Not in the slightest.
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I still don't understand this vitriol on the part of conservatives. Not in the slightest.
Neither do I - and I'm not a Republican.
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Old 02-07-08, 12:03 PM   #70
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I've never understood the attitude that you are wasting your vote if you back a third-party candidate. If you are voting your conscience, how is that a waste? It astounds me that so many people only vote for a Dem or Rep candidate because they think that is the one that will win -- regardless of how they feel about the candidate's views.
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Rush Limbaugh is worst in my opinion. I listen to his show during my lunch break at work, and holy crap is he vicious against McCain.
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Sorry, but that doesn't work. With Romney out, all of the remaining candidates are equally unviable, and they all turn me off to equal degrees (but for different reasons). They only thing that really stands out among the candidates is the betrayal I feel from McCain. I think he is a disgrace to his military service, and a disgrace to his party. Right now, I'm mulling over these two options:

-Pull the lever for Hillary or Obama, cause you cant fathom a McCain presidency?

-Sit this one out, and use it as a protest non-vote.

Which one I will choose, I won't know until November 4th.


Go with the non vote option. All of your non voting voices will be heard loud and clear.
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Conservatives - McCain, overall, is more conservative than is Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee.
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Old 02-07-08, 12:24 PM   #74
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Conservatives - McCain, overall, is more conservative than is Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee.

On the face of it I agree. However, his slights against the conservative establishment have been rather large and high profile, even if few in number.
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Conservatives - McCain, overall, is more conservative than is Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee.
And he also has a record of stabbing conservatives in the back.

I like how you're campaigning for him. It's almost like the NY Times supports him too.... oh wait... they do...
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