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Old 09-10-06, 12:26 PM   #1
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Al Gore Says He Hasn't Ruled Out 2nd Run

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SYDNEY, Australia (AP) - Former Vice President Al Gore said Sunday he hadn't rule out making a second bid for the White House, though he said it was unlikely.

Gore spoke to reporters in Sydney, where he was promoting the local premiere of his documentary on global warming.

``I haven't completely ruled out running for president again in the future but I don't expect to,'' Gore said before the Sunday night premiere of ``An Inconvenient Truth.''

``I offer the explanation not as an effort to be coy or clever. It's just the internal shifting of gears after being in politics almost 30 years. I hate to grind the gears,'' he added.

Gore, who lost the presidency to President Bush in 2000 in disputed circumstances, said there was no doubt the impact of global warming would be best addressed through the power of the presidency, but making a documentary was second best.

Gore's renewed popularity and movie tours across the United States have spurred speculation of a White House run in 2008. He has previously repeatedly denied such intentions.

The documentary, which Gore narrates, is critical of the United States and Australia for refusing to adopt the Kyoto Protocol for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

Prime Minister John Howard, a friend and ally of Bush, said he would not meet Gore during his Australian visit and would not heed his advice to sign up to Kyoto.

``I don't take policy advice from films,'' Howard told reporters.
First of all to Mr. Howard.
Second: Please Al, run.
Third: Maybe he can get ABC to run his Docu-Fairy-tale.
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Old 09-10-06, 02:30 PM   #2
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Gore, who lost the presidency to President Bush in 2000 in disputed circumstances, said there was no doubt the impact of global warming would be best addressed through the power of the presidency, but making a documentary was second best.
He was vice president for 8 years, including 2 years with Democrats controlling the House and Senate. And during that time, he did nothing to combat global warming.
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Old 09-10-06, 02:35 PM   #3
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He was vice president for 8 years, including 2 years with Democrats controlling the House and Senate. And during that time, he did nothing to combat global warming.
Quite true.

Even being from the senate he couldn't (or more probably, didn't) do anything to encourage his former colleagues to accept Kyoto. Maybe it would have taken time away from his fund-raising phone calls.
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Old 09-10-06, 02:56 PM   #4
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He was vice president for 8 years, including 2 years with Democrats controlling the House and Senate. And during that time, he did nothing to combat global warming.
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Meeting the Challenge of Global Warming

New Executive Orders to Reduce Governmentís Emissions. On April 22, 2000, two new executive orders were unveiled to help meet the challenge of climate change. The first order improves fuel efficiency by requiring the Federal government to reduce fuel use in its vehicle fleets by 20 percent over the next five years. The second order offers federal workers incentives to use public transportation, cutting fuel use and the pollution that contributes to climate change.

Energy Efficiency Standards for Residential Appliances. On April 19, 2000, the Vice President announced proposed new standards to improve the energy efficiency of residential water heaters that would result in consumer savings of more than $23 billion in energy over the next two decades. On May 24, 2000, Energy Secretary Bill Richardson announced an agreement with the washing machine industry to produce machines by 2007 that use half as much energy as most current models.

Protecting the Global Environment

China. On May 19, 2000, the Vice President released a joint statement between the United States and China pledging stronger cooperation on a range of efforts to protect the environment and promote sustainable development, including international efforts to combat global climate change.

India. On March 22, 2000, President Clinton announced an agreement to aid environmental programs in India on clean energy and climate change.


Climate Change

The Administrationís FY 2001 budget proposes over $2.4 billion (a more than 40 percent increase over FY 2000 enacted levels) in funding to combat global climate change. This includes increased investments in research and development of clean energy technology, the Climate Change Technology Initiative, and offers tax incentives to consumers who buy energy efficient cars, homes, appliances and other clean energy products.
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While I agree that Al Gore and Bill Clinton could have done more to help push the Kyoto Accords through Congress, it is wholly inaccurate to say that he did nothing to combat global warming.
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Old 09-10-06, 06:13 PM   #5
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Third: Maybe he can get ABC to run his Docu-Fairy-tale.
I almost hope he does run. There will be much more attention paid to An Inconvenient Truth and I would like to see it shredded for its exaggerations, misleading "facts" and lies. Up to now it's gotten pretty much a free ride from the critics and the mainstream media which don't know any better and don't want to know any better.
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Old 09-10-06, 06:15 PM   #6
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While I agree that Al Gore and Bill Clinton could have done more to help push the Kyoto Accords through Congress, it is wholly inaccurate to say that he did nothing to combat global warming.
Thank goodness they didn't do any more.
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Old 09-10-06, 07:03 PM   #7
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He can run all he wants, but he isn't going to win the nomination.
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Old 09-10-06, 08:07 PM   #8
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And...who's the best the Republicans have? I'd like to see that amazing person.

Both sides have pathetic people.
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Old 09-10-06, 08:18 PM   #9
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And...who's the best the Republicans have?
that person has been dead for over a century
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Old 09-10-06, 08:26 PM   #10
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While I agree that Al Gore and Bill Clinton could have done more to help push the Kyoto Accords through Congress, it is wholly inaccurate to say that he did nothing to combat global warming.

I was wrong.

Thank you for the correction.
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Old 09-10-06, 08:33 PM   #11
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I was wrong.

Thank you for the correction.
No problem. To be honest, I wasn't expecting an actual concession -- I find that entirely surprising, in a very positive way.

I've changed my mind about you, grundle. I still think some of your threads are a little bit on the wacky side... but you've been nothing but consistent and fair, and I commend you for it.
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Old 09-10-06, 09:56 PM   #12
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And...who's the best the Republicans have?
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that person has been dead for over a century
Calvin Coolidge is dead but not for more than a century.
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Old 09-10-06, 10:01 PM   #13
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True. And Teddy Roosevelt didn't die until 1919.

But I think we might be holding CB to a higher standard, expecting him to know American history. Since, you know, he's from Canada, eh?
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But I think we might be holding CB to a higher standard, expecting him to know American history. Since, you know, he's from Canada, eh?
And there's something about him that's not kosher.
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No problem. To be honest, I wasn't expecting an actual concession -- I find that entirely surprising, in a very positive way.

I've changed my mind about you, grundle. I still think some of your threads are a little bit on the wacky side... but you've been nothing but consistent and fair, and I commend you for it.
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Calvin Coolidge is dead but not for more than a century.
My favorite President is Democrat Grover Cleveland.
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Old 09-10-06, 10:48 PM   #17
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While I agree that Al Gore and Bill Clinton could have done more to help push the Kyoto Accords through Congress, it is wholly inaccurate to say that he did nothing to combat global warming.
Given that the vote was 99-0, I don't think Clinton (or any president faced with those odds) would have ever tried to use that much of a "loser" issue to persuade people. It could only have hurt them to do so.

All Kyoto would have done is take money out of our pockets and given them to the UN. Any treaty that doesn't include all nations is pointless. How are the nations that signed on doing with their goals? I haven't seen that posted in some time.

I find Gore's environmentalism to be as fanatical and scary as the prospect of Pat Robertson becoming president, personally.
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It is analogous to banning cars for safety reasons.
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Not really. Both sides have good people.
Both sides have good people, but neither side has been nominating the good people.
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If i cared to actually register and vote, I'd vote for him
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Old 09-11-06, 01:18 AM   #21
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that person has been dead for over a century
Abraham Lincoln im sure. The greatest president ever.
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Abraham Lincoln im sure. The greatest president ever.
That's who I meant
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Gore is the best they've got.
That is an absurd statement.
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Old 09-11-06, 12:05 PM   #24
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I would be hard pressed to think of a worse candidate for the nomination than Gore.
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I would be hard pressed to think of a worse candidate for the nomination than Gore.
Dennis Kucinich.
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