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Old 07-26-06, 11:43 PM   #1
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You gotta' love Howard Dean....

Saw this on Drudge and it made me laugh....hard. It reminds me of how Bush is always called divisive, when all that really means is he isn't doing what someone else wants. We need to keep this guy running the DNC.

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Old 07-26-06, 11:45 PM   #2
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That's good stuff.

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Old 07-27-06, 12:06 AM   #3
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Maybe the Iraqi PM doesn't like Jews. It's highly possible, given the country. Duh. But I haven't read any evidence to support this. But I will say the potential is pretty high.

In any case, Katherine Harris is a man, and Dean is still a freak.
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Old 07-27-06, 01:01 AM   #4
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“Thank God for Bill Nelson, because we’d have another crook in the United States Senate if it weren’t for him. He is going to beat the pants off Katherine Harris,” Dean said during his 20-minute address. “She doesn’t understand that it’s…improper to be chairman of a campaign and count the votes at the same time. This is not Russia and she is not Stalin.”
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Old 07-27-06, 03:25 AM   #5
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You know, after reading books like Manufacturing Consent, this shit really doesn't surprise me. Obviously manipulating this soundbite is just a way to skirt the whole issue that Dean brought up; it's just a shame that he had to use such inflammatory dialogue to totally divert people's attention.

And just because someone says something wrong once doesn't mean that everything they say all the time is always wrong. Or even hypocritical/contradictory.
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Old 07-27-06, 04:49 AM   #6
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It is much more about simply being funny than it is political. However, nothing beats this.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...dean_flash.mp3
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Old 07-27-06, 06:58 AM   #7
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I'm confused. Dean said she's not Stalin.
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Old 07-27-06, 06:59 AM   #8
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I have little doubt that Al-Maliki is anti-Semetic.

I've got some sad news for kvrdave. Voters in 11/06 don't vote for the party chairmen. Sorry!
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Old 07-27-06, 08:09 AM   #9
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I've got some sad news for kvrdave. Voters in 11/06 don't vote for the party chairmen. Sorry!
Yeah, but Howard Dean does a great job of getting out the Republican voters.
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Old 07-27-06, 08:17 AM   #10
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Well, actually the Republican machine would demonize anyone in order to try to radicalize their constituents to get out the vote. He's an easy target but they just go after one Dem after another.

Note, this isn't criticism of their technique. The raison d'etre for a political party is to continue to exist and get people elected. This is simply a strategy to do that.
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Old 07-27-06, 08:26 AM   #11
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is he a secret republican weapon...
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Old 07-27-06, 08:31 AM   #12
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Yeah, but Howard Dean does a great job of getting out the Republican voters.
In addition - the DNC Chairman doesn't get out the Republican voters. Hillary might.
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Old 07-27-06, 09:09 AM   #13
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And just because someone says something wrong once doesn't mean that everything they say all the time is always wrong. Or even hypocritical/contradictory.
Yes it does. It's the first rule of talk radio.

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Old 07-27-06, 09:45 AM   #14
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Well, actually the Republican machine would demonize anyone in order to try to radicalize their constituents to get out the vote. He's an easy target but they just go after one Dem after another.

Note, this isn't criticism of their technique. The raison d'etre for a political party is to continue to exist and get people elected. This is simply a strategy to do that.
It's a strategy that isn't limited to just the Reps though. The Dems are just as good at demonizing the people they oppose. That's the nature of politics these days.
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Old 07-27-06, 09:49 AM   #15
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nemein,

The Repubs have made an art out of demonizing people.

The Democrats, compared to the Repubs, are amatuers.
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Old 07-27-06, 09:59 AM   #16
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is he a secret republican weapon...
No, you're thinking of Terry McAuliffe.
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Old 07-27-06, 10:06 AM   #17
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In any case, Katherine Harris is a man

But shouldnt the liberal voters love a tranny politician? Why is it an insult?

I never get how they do that. The most talk about Ann Coulter being a 'man in disguise' are from the left. I thought they're all for that kind of thing?
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Old 07-27-06, 10:47 AM   #18
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is he a secret republican weapon...

ssshhhhhhh.... nothing to see here. Move along.
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Old 07-27-06, 11:55 AM   #19
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Well, actually the Republican machine would demonize anyone in order to try to radicalize their constituents to get out the vote. He's an easy target but they just go after one Dem after another.
Why, that's crazy talk! It's all about Howard Dean. I mean, don't you remember how respectful the right was toward Terry McAuliffe or Ed Rendell?
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Old 07-27-06, 01:19 PM   #20
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nemein,

The Repubs have made an art out of demonizing people.

The Democrats, compared to the Repubs, are amatuers.
Just ask Newt Gingrich
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Old 07-27-06, 01:27 PM   #21
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Just ask Newt Gingrich
Just ask John Murtha.

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They can and do vote against him and the party that has chosen such an individual to be at its head.
They can - but they don't.
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Old 07-27-06, 02:34 PM   #22
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Come on now... the "source" and the "voice of reason" has spoken we... must... agree w/... him...

Sorry I couldn't get through that w/ a straight face

Each to their own. IMHO I don't see how any reasonable/fair minded person can't see how both sides use these demonization (and other tactics) against the other. It's part of how politics is played these days. It's as amusing (and incorrect) as those who don't recognize both sides have their special interests they are beholden too and neither really knows/cares about what the "common" people want. Mainly because the common people generally don't know what they want out of their politicians either. When they do figure it out they join w/ other like minded people and form a special interest group
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Old 07-27-06, 02:42 PM   #23
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Questioning your opponents' patriotism who served honorably, receiving medals for heroism, in Vietnam, while defending a draft dodger....................

How about another president - Bill Clinton?

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You can't seriously believe that the Democratic attack machine is anywhere near as brutal or effective as the Republican attack machine.
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Old 07-27-06, 02:45 PM   #24
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You can't seriously believe that the Democratic attack machine is anywhere near as brutal or effective as the Republican attack machine.
It's just as vicious but not as effective because only attacks based on the truth are effective.


Remind me when there as a cartoon on the RNC webpage showing Clinton throwing an old woman off of a cliff?
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Old 07-27-06, 02:54 PM   #25
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You can't seriously believe that the Democratic attack machine is anywhere near as brutal or effective as the Republican attack machine.
I'll give you effective ... for "brutality" though I think the Dems give as good as the get (if not exceed the Reps) in this respect.
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