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Old 09-30-05, 05:21 PM   #1
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The Republicans' Contract With America

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/charen093005.asp

Sept. 30, 2005

Mona Charen

Inflation-adjusted spending on the combined budgets of the 101 largest programs Republicans vowed to eliminate in 1995 has grown by 27 percent.
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Old 09-30-05, 05:23 PM   #2
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I thought it was somewhere over 30% overall since 2000.
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Old 09-30-05, 05:28 PM   #3
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In defense of the Repubs - they will make at least 2 arguments:

1. They weren't in control of the entire appropriations process for 7 of those years.

2. Things are possible in the House that are not possible in the Senate, because the Senate has rules that the House doesn't have. On a number of things, there has to be unanimous consent in the Senate.

God, I hate to defend the Repubs.
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Old 09-30-05, 05:31 PM   #4
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Who thought up this whole "Contract with America" thing? We should get a witch and turn that guy into a newt!
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Old 09-30-05, 05:33 PM   #5
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Who thought up this whole "Contract with America" thing? We should get a witch and turn that guy into a newt!
It played a large role in the Republicans gaining control of the House of Representatives in 11/94 - first time in 40 years.
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Old 09-30-05, 05:34 PM   #6
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1. They weren't in control of the entire appropriations process for 7 of those years.
As long as there's a single democrat in either the house or the senate, they'll have all the excuse they'll ever need.
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Old 09-30-05, 05:35 PM   #7
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That's partially true - at least in the senate.

It's not true in the House where the majority does call the shots.
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Old 09-30-05, 05:41 PM   #8
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As it's like I've always said - appropriators spend money & lots of it, regardless of whether they're are Democrat or Republican. Now they they may differ in what they spend the money on.

And, God forbid, if the libertarians ever got into power - they'd spend money (alnd lots of it) also.

It goes with the turf.

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Old 09-30-05, 05:43 PM   #9
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did they try to cut those programs? I remember clinton shutting the government a few times
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Old 09-30-05, 05:44 PM   #10
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I thought it was somewhere over 30% overall since 2000.
The total federal budget has increased by 33% since Bush took office.

The thing that I quoted only refers to federal spending that the Republicans promised to eliminate.
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Old 09-30-05, 05:47 PM   #11
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In defense of the Repubs - they will make at least 2 arguments:

1. They weren't in control of the entire appropriations process for 7 of those years.

2. Things are possible in the House that are not possible in the Senate, because the Senate has rules that the House doesn't have. On a number of things, there has to be unanimous consent in the Senate.

God, I hate to defend the Repubs.
In the past 4 federal budgets, the Republicans have controlled the House, the Senate, and the Presidency.
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Old 09-30-05, 05:47 PM   #12
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did they try to cut those programs? I remember clinton shutting the government a few times
I don't recall but one government shut-down.

Now there's been Continuing Resolutions every year for many, many years - including this one - 7 weeks CR, as a matter of fact.
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Old 09-30-05, 05:48 PM   #13
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In the past 4 federal budgets, the Republicans have controlled the House, the Senate, and the Presidency.
Due to the rules of the Senate - having the majority doesn't mean you always get your way.
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Old 09-30-05, 05:49 PM   #14
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BTW: One could argue that a bunch of things (many unexpected) have occurred during those 4 years.
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Old 09-30-05, 07:09 PM   #15
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The total federal budget has increased by 33% since Bush took office.

The thing that I quoted only refers to federal spending that the Republicans promised to eliminate.
Then those programs have actually increased 6% less than every other program. Sounds like a cut to me!
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Old 09-30-05, 07:22 PM   #16
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The contract stated that they would vote on those items within a certain number of days or months in the House of Rep. and they voted on a number of them.

It saddens me to see that Americans have become like that pony tailed guy in the Bush I/Clinton debates who basically asked what the US government could do for him.
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Old 09-30-05, 08:52 PM   #17
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as long as the government gives me more money than i pay in taxes i'm OK
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Old 09-30-05, 08:54 PM   #18
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Can I sue the GOP sue for breach of contract?
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Old 09-30-05, 09:17 PM   #19
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as long as the government gives me more money than i pay in taxes i'm OK
That's when I'm not OK. I know something's broken and I'm not the only one that's happening to. As if it ever happened though.
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Old 10-01-05, 10:43 AM   #20
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the secret is to be fairly well off and still collect the money from the government
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Old 10-01-05, 12:01 PM   #21
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the secret is to be fairly well off and still collect the money from the government
That's exactly what I'm not OK with.
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