BTW, there was an election in France this week

[X]

Originally Posted by eXcentris

For example, the right to retire at 60 would only apply to people who have started working at 18 and have contributed to the state pension plan for 41 years.

And are going to live for another 20 years, half the time they worked. And the birthrate is declining.

[kvrdave]

Originally Posted by eXcentris

Here's a detailed first year agenda:

http://lexpansion.lexpress.fr/econom...ir_290098.html

Sorry but I ain't translating...

Ok, but just this bit:

- réduction de 30% de la rémunération du chef de l'Etat et des membres du gouvernement

30% reduction in salary for the Chief of State and members of government.

Holy crap they're gonna cut stuff!

On something like 500 people.

That's window dressing. I'll give them props if they do it, but it won't amount to any real money. And it will be a drop in the ocean of the shortened work weak and early pensions.

[eXcentris]

Originally Posted by X

And are going to live for another 20 years, half the time they worked. And the birthrate is declining.

Doesn't mean that everyone who qualifies (which won't be that many people anyway) will actually choose to retire. The worldwide trend in developed countries is for older people to work longer and/or even go back to work. Plus, the birth rate in France is the highest (2.1) in the EU and well above the OECD average, mostly because of incentives/"child-friendly" policies.

[classicman2]

I believe any country should have any type of retirement benefits & other social benefits they choose to have.

I don't believe the citizens of this country should have any say about it.

[grundle]

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/11/f...rench-riviera/

France’s New Socialist President Owns Three Homes On Exclusive French Riviera…

Champagne Socialist.

France’s new Socialist president owns three holiday homes in the glamorous Riviera resort of Cannes, it emerged today.

The 57-year-old who ‘dislikes the rich’ and wants to revolutionise his country with high taxes and an onslaught against bankers is in fact hugely wealthy himself.

His assets were published today in the Official Journal, the gazette which contains verified information about France’s government.

To the undoubted embarrassment to the most left-wing leader in Europe and a man who styles himself as ‘Mr Normal’, they are valued at almost £1million.

As well as the spacious Paris apartment he shares with his lover Valerie Trierweiler, Hollande owns a palatial villa in Mougins, the prestigious hill-top Cannes suburb where the artist Pablo Picasso used to live.

It is valued by the Official Journal at €800,000 (£642,000), and is just a short drive from Hollande’s two flats in the Cannes. They are each priced at €230,000 (£185,000) and €140,000 (£112,000).

Hollande has promised to cut his pay by 30 per cent after he is officially sworn in as President next week, but he will still be on €156,000 (£125,000) a year, plus fabulous expenses and other perks.

[The Bus]

You can get a flat in the French Riviera for €140,000?

Awesome

[JasonF]

Originally Posted by grundle

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/11/f...rench-riviera/

France’s New Socialist President Owns Three Homes On Exclusive French Riviera…

Champagne Socialist.

Clearly, someone doesn't understand socialism. It could be the guy who leads a socialist political party with millions of members. It could be you and the guy from"weaselzippers." I guess we'll never know.

[eXcentris]

This is very interesting news grundle, thanks.










(read: something other than Chavez causing food shortages in Venezuela)

[classicman2]

France is in good shape compared to Greece. Greece appears to be on the road to anarchy.

[The Bus]

After seeing that harrowing documentary Dogtooth, I see why.

[kvrdave]

Originally Posted by grundle

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/11/f...rench-riviera/

France’s New Socialist President Owns Three Homes On Exclusive French Riviera…

Champagne Socialist.

France’s new Socialist president owns three holiday homes in the glamorous Riviera resort of Cannes, it emerged today.

The 57-year-old who ‘dislikes the rich’ and wants to revolutionise his country with high taxes and an onslaught against bankers is in fact hugely wealthy himself.

His assets were published today in the Official Journal, the gazette which contains verified information about France’s government.

To the undoubted embarrassment to the most left-wing leader in Europe and a man who styles himself as ‘Mr Normal’, they are valued at almost £1million.

As well as the spacious Paris apartment he shares with his lover Valerie Trierweiler, Hollande owns a palatial villa in Mougins, the prestigious hill-top Cannes suburb where the artist Pablo Picasso used to live.

It is valued by the Official Journal at €800,000 (£642,000), and is just a short drive from Hollande’s two flats in the Cannes. They are each priced at €230,000 (£185,000) and €140,000 (£112,000).

Hollande has promised to cut his pay by 30 per cent after he is officially sworn in as President next week, but he will still be on €156,000 (£125,000) a year, plus fabulous expenses and other perks.

That does not seem like much money, personally.