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Old 11-03-09, 10:03 PM   #1
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Bill Clinton and George W. Bush to debate in NY

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Bill Clinton to debate George W. Bush
By Eric Zimmermann - 11/03/09 05:42 PM ET

Former Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will face off in a debate that organizers are calling "the hottest ticket in political history."

The event is scheduled for February 2010 at Radio City Music Hall in New York, according to the NY Post.

Tickets will cost anywhere between $60 to $1250.

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The event is part of MSG Entertainment's third annual "Minds That Move The World" speakers series.

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"We hope that [the debate] will not only provide guests with an informative and empowering experience that will help them make educated political decisions, but also encourage people to engage in continued dialogue surrounding the most significant current events of our day," said Melissa Miller Ormond, who serves as COO of MSG Entertainment.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...-george-w-bush

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Old 11-03-09, 10:04 PM   #2
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Is this from the onion?
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Old 11-03-09, 10:38 PM   #3
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What kind of match is this going to be? Ladder or Cage match?
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Old 11-03-09, 11:03 PM   #4
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Only in the way a 99-0 football game could be considered "fun"

What in the world is this supposed to be about anyway?
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Old 11-03-09, 11:10 PM   #5
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What in the world is this supposed to be about anyway?
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Old 11-04-09, 07:35 AM   #6
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"the hottest ticket in political history."

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Old 11-04-09, 09:12 AM   #7
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Lincoln-Douglas, I'm happy for you and imma let you finish but Clinton-Bush will have one of the greatest political debates of all time!
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Old 11-04-09, 09:56 AM   #8
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Lincoln-Douglas, I'm happy for you and imma let you finish but Clinton-Bush will have one of the greatest political debates of all time!
Okay, this is officially over. No more.
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Old 11-04-09, 10:01 AM   #9
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Okay, this is officially over. No more.
Agreed. That shit has nuked the fridge.
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Old 11-04-09, 10:22 AM   #10
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Agreed. That shit has nuked the fridge.
"Nuked the fridge", Imma let you finish but "jumped the shark" had one of the greatest cliches about something getting stupid of all time!
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Old 11-04-09, 10:34 AM   #11
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How does the capitalization on that work? Is it "imma" or "Imma"? Because I've seen it both ways.
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I believe "I'm'a" is the correct spelling.
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Old 11-04-09, 07:51 PM   #13
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"the hottest ticket in political history."

Yeah no shit. It's like having a horse race in the parking lot of the glue factory. These two old goats won't say anything relevant, how can that be political history?
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Old 11-04-09, 08:25 PM   #14
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Gotta keep the dynasties. I mean Hillary wants to eventually be President and don't forget 'ole Jeb!
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Old 11-04-09, 09:29 PM   #15
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If nothing else, it's interesting because for the longest time the post-presidency wasn't particularly relevant for most of our chief executives. Clinton and Bush are young enough to be in a position to help re-define the ways in which a past president can continue to be a relevant voice in our political discussion. I personally think it's a good thing for these guys to keep getting out there and aligning their star power with their individual causes and such. The Clinton Foundation has done a lot of good things overseas from what I've read, and I'm very interested to see what role Bush plays in the national and global scenes, going forward. The debate itself will, of course, be all show and pomp and circumstance, but I think there's potential to add a new dynamic to our dialog about issues.
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If nothing else, it's interesting because for the longest time the post-presidency wasn't particularly relevant for most of our chief executives. Clinton and Bush are young enough to be in a position to help re-define the ways in which a past president can continue to be a relevant voice in our political discussion. I personally think it's a good thing for these guys to keep getting out there and aligning their star power with their individual causes and such. The Clinton Foundation has done a lot of good things overseas from what I've read, and I'm very interested to see what role Bush plays in the national and global scenes, going forward. The debate itself will, of course, be all show and pomp and circumstance, but I think there's potential to add a new dynamic to our dialog about issues.
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Old 11-04-09, 11:08 PM   #18
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Last Updated: 3:40 PM, November 4, 2009
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A "debate" between former Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush has been nixed because the promoter overhyped it as a death-match faceoff between the men, The Post has learned.

Clinton spokesman Matt McKenna said the appearance was never slated to be a "debate" and was actually a moderated panel discussion with the 42nd and 43rd leaders of the free world.

"This event ... was supposed to be a discussion between the two former presidents, and has been cancelled because it was not being billed as such by an overeager promoter," McKenna siad.

The event was slated for Feb. 25 at Radio City Hall, with whom the two men had a contract. But MSG hired its own promoter to hype the event.

An aide to Bush and officials at MSG couldn't immediately be reached.

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It'd be kind of fun if they started serious, but then turned it into a Bugs Bunny routine "is, is not, is, is not, is, is not....is not, is! Doh!"
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It'd be kind of fun if they started serious, but then turned it into a Bugs Bunny routine "is, is not, is, is not, is, is not....is not, is! Doh!"
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Old 11-05-09, 02:51 PM   #21
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Sounds like Don King was promoting this.
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Old 11-05-09, 03:09 PM   #22
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Old 11-07-09, 04:55 PM   #23
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I understand Clinton doing this with no difficulty. Bush however has wisely kept a low profile. I guess he feels like America can't think any worse of him, so why not go for the payday.

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Old 11-07-09, 06:07 PM   #24
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They should do it somewhere a little more biased towards Bush. Like Europe.
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I understand Clinton doing this with no difficulty. Bush however has wisely kept a low profile. I guess he feels like America can't think any worse of him, so why not go for the payday.

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I gather there's some confusion; the event has been canceled. As for Mr. Bush's willingness to participate, I too was surprised. Generally, presidents go into a sort of memoir-writing public hibernation after leaving office. As I indicated above, even though I disagreed with many of his policies, I am hopeful that he will continue to contribute to our political dialog in the coming years. Of course both presidents would have received renumeration for this now-canceled event; why shouldn't they? They would have been using their star power to draw attention to issues. Surely that shouldn't devalue the thoughts and experiences either man would have to offer.

I can't think of anything like this event having happened since the correspondence of John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. I hope they can reschedule with a different promotional campaign, because I for one would love to hear the differing perspectives these two charismatic (if polarizing) former chief executives have on our world's affairs.
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