Some Chicago Aldermen don't like being searched it seems...

[jfoobar]

...to the point of threatening budgets.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhal...chme31.article

Don't search me, aldermen warn
Hearings chief told to cut it out or face possible budget cut

October 31, 2009
BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter

Chicago aldermen with their noses out of joint Friday demanded to know why they are searched along with the masses at the city's central headquarters for administrative hearings.

Scott Bruner, director of Administrative Hearings --the department Chicagoans love to hate -- was put through the wringer again during City Council budget hearings, but for different reasons.

Normally, Bruner gets pummeled for presiding over a "kangaroo court" of rude, cavalier and predominantly white hearing officers who don't give the accused a fair shake, critics say.

This time, he was ambushed by aldermen, some of them attorneys, who show up at 400 W. Superior and are searched and put through metal detectors like everyone else.

Ald. Freddrenna Lyle (6th) noted that aldermen are shown far more courtesy at the Daley Center and the State of Illinois building.

"If I present my attorney identification card and the sheriff's ID, I don't get searched [in those buildings] as an officer of the court. I am offended that you would think that this administrative hearing process is superior to or has a greater security risk than the Circuit Court of Cook County or the Appellate Court of the state of Illinois," Lyle said.

Budget Committee Chair Carrie Austin (34th) was so "offended," she warned Bruner what might happen if he fails to "take another look at your policy."

"It's not a matter of giving anybody any preference. But us that are aldermen -- we are the ones who set your budget. If we're the ones setting your budget maybe we'll take an adjustment" downward, if the policy is not rescinded, Austin warned.

Bruner initially defended the policy, telling aldermen, "It's not my intention to offend anyone. It's only our intention to make sure that people coming through are searched. . . . We're trying to treat everyone equally."

But by the time the hearing ended, he had clearly gotten the message.

"We will go back and look at the policy. We'll talk to the vendor about what they are comfortable with, and we'll see what, if anything, we can do to address it," Bruner said.

The alderwomen actually have a point. If they can enter courthouses and, presumably, City Hall, without being searched just to go into administrative hearings. That does seem to be an inconsistency not in keeping with logic. Courthouses normally have very tight security.

However, when you publicly threaten someone's budget over something like that, you have obviously leaped over the line of reasonable professionalism.

[Groucho]

No need to search elected government officials. What's the worst that can happen?

[kvrdave]

I don't think they have a point. I don't have a problem with each building running security how they see fit, and if one wants to actually treat every person equally and search them all, I don't mind.

[jfoobar]

Originally Posted by Groucho

No need to search elected government officials. What's the worst that can happen?

Of course, he bypassed building security and a metal detector by climbing through a window.

[wm lopez]

This story kinda reminds me of Obama telling America don't watch FOXNEWS.

[antennaball]

[DeputyDave]

Originally Posted by antennaball

The first thing I thought of. Did they show you that video in the accademy? It was one of several they showed us to "prepare us". I'd seen it before, though.

[antennaball]

Originally Posted by DeputyDave

The first thing I thought of. Did they show you that video in the accademy? It was one of several they showed us to "prepare us". I'd seen it before, though.

Yeah. They basically showed us what amounted to stuff I had already seen on Faces of Death. The instructors liked to pepper them in when coming back from breaks. We had those kinds during our violent crime sections, and old "Red Asphalt" type accident scenes during Crash Investigation.

I'll say one thing though....it's not like videos in a classroom are any kind of preparation at all for the real thing. Besides, nothing in the f'n world can prepare you for the smell of a decomp. Oh. My. God.

[Dr Mabuse]

'Faces of Death' stuff was fake btw, except for one incident in all of them IIRC.

That guy's press conference above is pretty stout stuff.

[jfoobar]

Originally Posted by DeputyDave

The first thing I thought of. Did they show you that video in the accademy? It was one of several they showed us to "prepare us". I'd seen it before, though.

That's got nothing on the Dinkheller video when it comes to preparing LEOs for duty.

[funkyryno]

Originally Posted by jfoobar

That's got nothing on the Dinkheller video when it comes to preparing LEOs for duty.

Yikes. Out of curiosity I just watched this. Pretty intense and disturbing.

[antennaball]

Originally Posted by jfoobar

That's got nothing on the Dinkheller video when it comes to preparing LEOs for duty.

Yep, saw that one too. I watched it the one time in the academy and flat refuse to ever watch it again.

[DeputyDave]

Originally Posted by jfoobar

That's got nothing on the Dinkheller video when it comes to preparing LEOs for duty.

Yeah, that still makes my balls retract.

[antennaball]

Oh, and the ultimate one that gave me chills was the one for Trooper Randall Vetter. It happened in 2000 and it happened where I work. He was shot by an old redneck who was pissed at getting pulled over for not wearing his seat belt. The old redneck then used the trooper's radio to call dispatch for help. Some of the guys you see and hear in the video are co-workers of mine now. It's chilling. To this day, I refuse to make a traffic stop in that exact location. I'll follow a violator for a mile to clear that area. It's the closest to superstition I get, but the memories of that video are still way too vivid.

[Dr Mabuse]

Isn't that the video I just watched?

The old stupid redneck shoots him with something like a Mini 14 and then can barely speak English to call for medical help from the radio in the car?

[antennaball]

Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse

Isn't that the video I just watched?

The old stupid redneck shoots him with something like a Mini 14 and then can barely speak English to call for medical help from the radio in the car?

That's the one.

The old redneck just died in prison about a year ago. It's a shame that he got to live such a long life.

[Dr Mabuse]

I couldn't believe those early arrivers just walked around him like that and didn't drop him even after they realized what was up.

[Rockmjd23]

It's possible that the cop was involved in illegal/illicit activity.

[Rockmjd23]

Originally Posted by jfoobar

That's got nothing on the Dinkheller video when it comes to preparing LEOs for duty.

Worst non-gore video I've ever seen. I won't ever watch it again.

[jfoobar]

Originally Posted by antennaball

Yep, saw that one too. I watched it the one time in the academy and flat refuse to ever watch it again.

Same here. I have seen it once.

Unlike some other videos where a police officer dies or would have died save dumb luck, there is a valuable lesson to Dinkheller. He did so many things wrong there. Every LEO or would-be LEO needs to see that video.

[arminius]

Originally Posted by jfoobar

Same here. I have seen it once.

Unlike some other videos where a police officer dies or would have died save dumb luck, there is a valuable lesson to Dinkheller. He did so many things wrong there. Every LEO or would-be LEO needs to see that video.

Just so I do not have to watch it, can you list some?

[covenant]

For one: When its time to use deadly force, use it. (the suspect produced an M1 carbine and the officer asked him eleven times to drop it instead of shooting)