Election Day 2009 Preview - Page 6

DGibFen · 11-03-09, 11:06 PM

Total 411/606
Owens 48,403 49%
Scozzafava 5,367 5%
Hoffman 44,893 46%

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/e...CTION=POLITICS

DGibFen · 11-03-09, 11:08 PM

I'm listening to Alan Combs on Fox News, and it's quite hilarious how he's just slamming the Republicans.

http://interactive.foxnews.com/lives....html?chanId=4

Click on the "Fox News Radio" link.

DeputyDave · 11-03-09, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DGibFen

I'm listening to Alan Combs on Fox News, and it's quite hilarious how he's just slamming the Republicans.

How and why?

Pharoh · 11-03-09, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DGibFen

REJECT SAME-SEX MARRIAGE LAW
Yes 74802 50.51%
No 73292 49.49%

http://www.bangordailynews.com/electionresults.html

It's narrowing, but the 'yes' side will maintain.

Pharoh · 11-03-09, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DGibFen

Total 411/606
Owens 48,403 49%
Scozzafava 5,367 5%
Hoffman 44,893 46%

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/e...CTION=POLITICS

There is plenty left in St. Lawrence, but so far it hasn't gone well for Hoffman there. There simply aren't enough votes outstanding in the pro-Hoffman counties.

DGibFen · 11-03-09, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DeputyDave

How and why?

http://www.foxnews.com/
-Click on WATCH LIVE: Christie Campaign Headquarters, then click on Fox News Radio at the top of the pop-up.

Why? Dunno, I've always like Colmes, even though I disagree with him ideologically.

kvrdave · 11-03-09, 11:18 PM

The NY race was a clusterfuck in so many ways that I don't think it matters as to the "tone" of the voters. But NJ electing a Republican....who. You have to be one piece of shit Democrat to get beat by a Republican in NJ.

X · 11-03-09, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kvrdave

The NY race was a clusterfuck in so many ways that I don't think it matters as to the "tone" of the voters. But NJ electing a Republican....who. You have to be one piece of shit Democrat to get beat by a Republican in NJ.

By tomorrow the NY race will become the most important race in terms of talking points if the Democrat wins.

DeputyDave · 11-03-09, 11:22 PM

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By tomorrow the NY race will become the most important race in terms of talking points if the Democrat wins.

Very true. Kind of flimsy to hang a hat on, though.

DGibFen · 11-03-09, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by X

By tomorrow the NY race will become the most important race in terms of talking points if the Democrat wins.

I give you that and add this:

REJECT SAME-SEX MARRIAGE LAW
Yes 182360 51.58%
No 171171 48.42%

X · 11-03-09, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DGibFen

REJECT SAME-SEX MARRIAGE LAW
Yes 182360 51.58%
No 171171 48.42%

Given that that's about the same as has occurred in every other state where it's been up to a vote, I don't think it is going to get that much national notice.

Just like the congressional election here in California.

Pharoh · 11-03-09, 11:29 PM

It's over in NY-23. Owens the winner.

DGibFen · 11-03-09, 11:29 PM

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Give that that's about the same as has occurred in every other state where it's been up to a vote, I don't think it has much national importance.

Yeah, my bad. I was reading it at first as the gay marriage crowd was winning.

So Maine will love the (medicinal) pot but hate teh gay.

DeputyDave · 11-03-09, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DGibFen

Yeah, my bad. I was reading it at first as the gay marriage crowd was winning.

So Maine will love the (medicinal) pot but hate teh gay.

You stumbled onto the secret agenda: Pot leads to the gay.

DGibFen · 11-03-09, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DeputyDave

You stumbled onto the secret agenda: Pot leads to the gay.

Tommy Ceez · 11-04-09, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kvrdave

The NY race was a clusterfuck in so many ways that I don't think it matters as to the "tone" of the voters. But NJ electing a Republican....who. You have to be one piece of shit Democrat to get beat by a Republican in NJ.

This might be the first cannon shot in the VAMPIRE SQUID REVOLT

JasonF · 11-04-09, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kvrdave

The NY race was a clusterfuck in so many ways that I don't think it matters as to the "tone" of the voters. But NJ electing a Republican....who. You have to be one piece of shit Democrat to get beat by a Republican in NJ.

Not to dispute the notion that Jon Corzine is a shitty governor, but New Jersey elects plenty of Republican governors -- Tom Kean and Christine Todd Whitman to name the most famous ones in recent memory. In point of fact, since Governor Kean was elected in 1981, Republicans have controlled the New Jersey governorship for 16 out of 28 years.

kvrdave · 11-04-09, 12:38 AM

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Not to dispute the notion that Jon Corzine is a shitty governor, but New Jersey elects plenty of Republican governors -- Tom Kean and Christine Todd Whitman to name the most famous ones in recent memory. In point of fact, since Governor Kean was elected in 1981, Republicans have controlled the New Jersey governorship for 16 out of 28 years.

Go back further, and look at the point spread. And I am pretty much repeated what the Right Wing Cabal at CNN said.

I watched a bit of Larry King and Jesse Ventura was on. That guy is absolutely nuts. I don't believe his IQ is over 90. He is a moron who can barely string words into a sentence. He makes no sense. What a loon.

kvrdave · 11-04-09, 12:43 AM

"The Body" just got smacked down by Ben Stein on the Constitution. All he could say in return was, "Sure, use a big word, but we all know what happened."

dork · 11-04-09, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kvrdave

I am pretty much repeated what the Right Wing Cabal at CNN said.

Which one of them called Corzine a piece of shit? It was Gergen, wasn't it?

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Originally Posted by kvrdave

I watched a bit of Larry King and Jesse Ventura was on. That guy is absolutely nuts. I don't believe his IQ is over 90. He is a moron who can barely string words into a sentence. He makes no sense. What a loon.

In Larry's defense, he's like 140 years old...

JasonF · 11-04-09, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kvrdave

Go back further, and look at the point spread. And I am pretty much repeated what the Right Wing Cabal at CNN said.

I watched a bit of Larry King and Jesse Ventura was on. That guy is absolutely nuts. I don't believe his IQ is over 90. He is a moron who can barely string words into a sentence. He makes no sense. What a loon.

How far back do you want to go? New Jersey adopted its current constitution in 1947. Since then, Democrats and Republicans have been trading the governorship back and forth every 8 years, except that Florio (a Democrat) only held it for four years between Kean and Whitman and Meyner and Hughes (both Democrats) held two back-to-back eight year terms in the fifties and sixties for a sixteen-year Democratic stretch.

For the love of God, when it comes to political analysis, don't believe anything you hear on cable news. They're a bunch of idiots who blather to hear their own voices. These are the same people who spent hours chasing a balloon because they got outsmarted by a wanna-be reality TV star.

X · 11-04-09, 01:05 AM

With that fait accompli it kind of makes you wonder why President Obama campaigned for Corzine so many times, even up through last Sunday. He could have been out golfing.

wm lopez · 11-04-09, 01:18 AM

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With that fait accompli it kind of makes you wonder why President Obama campaigned for Corzine so many times, even up through last Sunday. He could have been out golfing.

Didn't Michael Moore make George W. Bush look like a fool for playing golf while America was at war in one of his movies?

X · 11-04-09, 01:30 AM

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Didn't Michael Moore make George W. Bush look like a fool for playing golf while America was at war in one of his movies?

Way to keep the train of discussion going.

wmansir · 11-04-09, 04:07 AM

The Maine gay marriage veto was approved, meaning no GM in Maine. The results were almost exactly the same as the previous vote on GM, 53/47 split. Turnout was pretty good for an off year election with over half of registered voters voting. I thought there would be a shift to the pro-GM side, possibly enough to swing it, but after I looked into a comment crazyronin made about the Sec of State validating signatures I became more doubtful.

When the GM law was signed by the Gov. in May the SoS said it would be extremely difficult for the opposition to get the required 55K signatures in time for the veto to appear on the fall ballot. The anti-GM side ended up with over 100K signatures, or well over 10% of the total number of registered voters. That indicated to me that the anti side would be coming out to vote.

I don't know what to chalk this vote up as. Maybe it's just the will of the people. I'm not sure how effective the anti-GM side's school teaching based campaign was, the pro-GM side had a well organized and funded campaign to counter it. My feeling is also that part of the vote was a rebuke of how the law was passed. The issue was voted down recently and several legislators who voted for it, and the Governor who signed it, were elected saying they opposed making gay marriage legal.

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DGibFen DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Louisville Posts: 4,343	Re: Election Day 2009 Preview Total 411/606 Owens 48,403 49% Scozzafava 5,367 5% Hoffman 44,893 46% http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/e...CTION=POLITICS __________________ PSN ID: DGibFen My collection PS3 Trophies

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DGibFen DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Louisville Posts: 4,343	Re: Election Day 2009 Preview I'm listening to Alan Combs on Fox News, and it's quite hilarious how he's just slamming the Republicans. http://interactive.foxnews.com/lives....html?chanId=4 Click on the "Fox News Radio" link. __________________ PSN ID: DGibFen My collection PS3 Trophies Last edited by DGibFen; 11-03-09 at 11:12 PM.

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kvrdave DVD Talk God Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 66,699	Re: Election Day 2009 Preview The NY race was a clusterfuck in so many ways that I don't think it matters as to the "tone" of the voters. But NJ electing a Republican....who. You have to be one piece of shit Democrat to get beat by a Republican in NJ. __________________ Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - C.S. Lewis

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Pharoh DVD Talk Legend Join Date: May 2000 Location: Show Me State, indeed Posts: 18,531	Re: Election Day 2009 Preview It's over in NY-23. Owens the winner.

11-04-09, 12:43 AM	#144
kvrdave DVD Talk God Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 66,699	Re: Election Day 2009 Preview "The Body" just got smacked down by Ben Stein on the Constitution. All he could say in return was, "Sure, use a big word, but we all know what happened." __________________ Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - C.S. Lewis

11-04-09, 01:05 AM	#147
X Administrator Join Date: Oct 1987 Posts: 5,487	Re: Election Day 2009 Preview With that fait accompli it kind of makes you wonder why President Obama campaigned for Corzine so many times, even up through last Sunday. He could have been out golfing.

11-04-09, 04:07 AM	#150
wmansir DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Land of the Lobstrosities Posts: 5,880	Re: Election Day 2009 Preview The Maine gay marriage veto was approved, meaning no GM in Maine. The results were almost exactly the same as the previous vote on GM, 53/47 split. Turnout was pretty good for an off year election with over half of registered voters voting. I thought there would be a shift to the pro-GM side, possibly enough to swing it, but after I looked into a comment crazyronin made about the Sec of State validating signatures I became more doubtful. When the GM law was signed by the Gov. in May the SoS said it would be extremely difficult for the opposition to get the required 55K signatures in time for the veto to appear on the fall ballot. The anti-GM side ended up with over 100K signatures, or well over 10% of the total number of registered voters. That indicated to me that the anti side would be coming out to vote. I don't know what to chalk this vote up as. Maybe it's just the will of the people. I'm not sure how effective the anti-GM side's school teaching based campaign was, the pro-GM side had a well organized and funded campaign to counter it. My feeling is also that part of the vote was a rebuke of how the law was passed. The issue was voted down recently and several legislators who voted for it, and the Governor who signed it, were elected saying they opposed making gay marriage legal. __________________ wes