W.H.: Media shouldn't follow Fox

[milo bloom]

Originally Posted by brayzie

I think it's interesting that they brought up the ACORN story. That IS news. I have to wonder if a similar story that implicated an organization with conservative ties would be downplayed like that.

I'll give a flying flip about a couple of dumbasses caught in an entrapment scam on home video, when the media and congress ever fully and properly hangs groups like Blackwater/Xe and Haliburton out to dry.

Originally Posted by mosquitobite

Do you?

All I know is one can go from community organizer to Senate to President in less than a decade!

Why Is Chicago So Corrupt? - Slate

I read something just the other day saying that if a conservative/Republican candidate had managed a feat like that, they would be lauded as a "go-getter" and for "pulling themselves up by their bootstraps", but since it's a democrat, that couldn't have possibly happened.

[CRM114]

Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial

^^^The 50% of viewers who are Democratic or independent, as well as republicans.

I watch Fox on occasion and trust me, I'm not insulted.

[cpgator]

Originally Posted by CRM114

I watch Fox on occasion and trust me, I'm not insulted.

Obama was not trying to insult his faithful followers.

[Nausicaa]

Originally Posted by milo bloom

I read something just the other day saying that if a conservative/Republican candidate had managed a feat like that, they would be lauded as a "go-getter" and for "pulling themselves up by their bootstraps", but since it's a democrat, that couldn't have possibly happened.

But all of his achievment is obviously predicated on opportunities Obama didn't deserve. Just like Sonia Sotomayor, another affirmative action candidate. Whenever a minority achieves something, beware for the spectre of affirmative action is always near.

[brayzie]

Originally Posted by milo bloom

I'll give a flying flip about a couple of dumbasses caught in an entrapment scam on home video, when the media and congress ever fully and properly hangs groups like Blackwater/Xe and Haliburton out to dry.

So if it's not about Blackwater/Haliburton it's not newsworthy?
Can't you be against both Blackwater AND ACORN employees attempting to assist alleged criminals?

From the videos I've seen it's more than a just two "dumbasses" caught in the undercover ACORN video.

I agree with you that the involvement of Blackwater and Haliburton are more important than ACORN. Regardless though, should newsworthy stories be buried just because nothings progressing with Blackwater or Haliburton?

You don't care that an organization with goverment funding has atleast 3 seperate locations (with 5 people across the 3 videos) that agree to help an alleged pimp and prostitute get tax refunds on 15 year old illegal immigrant prostitutes?

[JasonF]

Originally Posted by milo bloom

I'll give a flying flip about a couple of dumbasses caught in an entrapment scam on home video, when the media and congress ever fully and properly hangs groups like Blackwater/Xe and Haliburton out to dry.

Originally Posted by brayzie

So if it's not about Blackwater/Haliburton it's not newsworthy?
Can't you be against both Blackwater AND ACORN employees attempting to assist alleged criminals?

From the videos I've seen it's more than a just two "dumbasses" caught in the undercover ACORN video.

I agree with you that the involvement of Blackwater and Haliburton are more important than ACORN. Regardless though, should newsworthy stories be buried just because nothings progressing with Blackwater or Haliburton?

You don't care that an organization with goverment funding has atleast 3 seperate locations (with 5 people across the 3 videos) that agree to help an alleged pimp and prostitute get tax refunds on 15 year old illegal immigrant prostitutes?

But remember what your original statement was:

Originally Posted by brayzie

I think it's interesting that they brought up the ACORN story. That IS news. I have to wonder if a similar story that implicated an organization with conservative ties would be downplayed like that.

That's what Milo Bloom is responding to. He's pointing out that you don't have to wonder: similar stories with Xe and Haliburton have been downplayed. The idea that ACORN is getting special protection from the so-called liberal media is nonsense. If anything, they are getting special attention, largely because conservative activists picked up on this story and started shouting about media bias, and the surest way to get the media to report on something is to have conservative activists accuse them of burying it due to media bias.

[milo bloom]

Originally Posted by brayzie

So if it's not about Blackwater/Haliburton it's not newsworthy?
Can't you be against both Blackwater AND ACORN employees attempting to assist alleged criminals?

From the videos I've seen it's more than a just two "dumbasses" caught in the undercover ACORN video.

I agree with you that the involvement of Blackwater and Haliburton are more important than ACORN. Regardless though, should newsworthy stories be buried just because nothings progressing with Blackwater or Haliburton?

You don't care that an organization with goverment funding has atleast 3 seperate locations (with 5 people across the 3 videos) that agree to help an alleged pimp and prostitute get tax refunds on 15 year old illegal immigrant prostitutes?

My issue with it is the weighting that groups like Fox news give the ACORN issue, putting it on par with Haliburton and the like. And it simply isn't equal. If I had to do a Sophie's Choice on the two: choosing between military contracters building facilities that electrocute our soldiers when they try to take a shower or raping co-workers and locking them in shipping containers so they couldn't report it, vs the alleged prostitution scam, I think that's an easy choice.

And for the ultra-bleeding heart liberal response: maybe the ACORN workers were simply taking pity on other people that have been brought up in a difficult socio-economic situation and are just trying to run a small business. Doesn't the right love small business owners


But seriously, people like Fox and Republicans in the senate and congress making such a big fuss over defunding groups like ACORN, while not doing much about the others just affirms to me where their priorities are (here's a hint, they're somewhere where the sun don't shine).

[Nausicaa]

Not to mention that ACORN has recieved relatively little government funding. Something like $30 million over the last ten years. Maybe a lot to the organization, but a tiny sum as far as the gov't is concerned. Especially compared to the aforementioned defense contracts which are worth billions upon billions of dollars.

[CRM114]

Originally Posted by cpgator

Obama was not trying to insult his faithful followers.

I see we didn't read the thread again.

[Dr Mabuse]

Obviously this was the wrong thread to post that Cross thing in...

[classicman2]

Originally Posted by milo bloom

My issue with it is the weighting that groups like Fox news give the ACORN issue, putting it on par with Haliburton and the like. And it simply isn't equal. If I had to do a Sophie's Choice on the two: choosing between military contracters building facilities that electrocute our soldiers when they try to take a shower or raping co-workers and locking them in shipping containers so they couldn't report it, vs the alleged prostitution scam, I think that's an easy choice.

You don't believe an attempt to distort the electoral process in this county is somewhat important?

[Nugent]

Originally Posted by milo bloom

My issue with it is the weighting that groups like Fox news give the ACORN issue, putting it on par with Haliburton and the like. And it simply isn't equal. If I had to do a Sophie's Choice on the two: choosing between military contracters building facilities that electrocute our soldiers when they try to take a shower or raping co-workers and locking them in shipping containers so they couldn't report it, vs the alleged prostitution scam, I think that's an easy choice.

And for the ultra-bleeding heart liberal response: maybe the ACORN workers were simply taking pity on other people that have been brought up in a difficult socio-economic situation and are just trying to run a small business. Doesn't the right love small business owners


But seriously, people like Fox and Republicans in the senate and congress making such a big fuss over defunding groups like ACORN, while not doing much about the others just affirms to me where their priorities are (here's a hint, they're somewhere where the sun don't shine).

But your cool with ACORN promoting the whoring out/raping of 15 year old girls?

[cpgator]

Originally Posted by CRM114

I see we didn't read the thread again.

You are a faithful follower, not a Fox News viewer - therefore you shouldn't be insulted. Get it?

[CRM114]

Originally Posted by classicman2

You don't believe an attempt to distort the electoral process in this county is somewhat important?

Morons telling a fake prostitute how to avoid taxes is distorting the electoral process?

[CRM114]

Originally Posted by cpgator

You are a faithful follower, not a Fox News viewer - therefore you shouldn't be insulted. Get it?

No I was responding to the guy who said 50% of Fox's viewers are Democrat and independent and he was wondering if they would be offended. I'm one of those demographics and no I'm not. Read sequentially and it might make more sense.

[classicman2]

Voter fraud distorts the electoral process - don't you agree?

How many states is Acorn now under investigation for that very thing?

[Birrman54]

Voter registration fraud is not voter fraud.

Micky Mouse did not vote.

[sracer]

Originally Posted by Birrman54

Voter registration fraud is not voter fraud.

Micky Mouse did not vote.

Riiight.

But dead people vote.
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.ph..._people_voting

You are naive if you think that voter registration fraud isn't a prerequisite to actual voter fraud.

[cpgator]

Originally Posted by CRM114

No I was responding to the guy who said 50% of Fox's viewers are Democrat and independent and he was wondering if they would be offended. I'm one of those demographics and no I'm not. Read sequentially and it might make more sense.

I apologize for not being clear. I was trying to say that you are an Obama follower, and that you are not a Fox viewer. Therefore you would not be insulted.

Obama probably watches more Fox news than you.

[wm lopez]

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy

Because emotional cripples constantly require reinforcement of their insecurities, whereas everyone else has actual lives?

Your answer could be used on way suck movies become hits at the box-office.

[wm lopez]

Originally Posted by cpgator

Obama was not trying to insult his faithful followers.

But did insult some of those that voted for him.

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy

Are you kidding? Play upon the fears and insecurities of anyone, and you'll have a devotee for life. Like feeding a stray.

Excellent point! This explains the overwhelming percentage of African Americans who support the Democrats.

(NOTE: I realize this is already going to be targeted as a racist comment, despite it being an honest and accurate observation, and I definitely would omit the "stray" portion, I would never compare any group of people to stray dogs. Well, unless the stray dogs are chihuahuas, in which case the comparison is unavoidable ).

[jfoobar]

Originally Posted by CRM114

You mean the ones who wouldn't vote for Obama in any scenario?

A lot of independents watch at least some Fox News, CRM. Many of them are sure to be quite concerned with the WH deliberately attacking a news organization based on their "opinion."

I am an independent and, until about 5 minutes ago, was actually pretty amused by this whole thing. Then I read that interchange between Gibbs and Tapper and suddenly find myself quite pissed off that the White House Press Secretary would basically dismiss Tapper's very valid questions with "that's our opinion."

I think I have demonstrated in prior posts here that I am not much of a fan of FN, but this is pretty dangerous ground that is being tread upon.

[jfoobar]

Originally Posted by CRM114

I don't think anyone really knows or cares. With O'Reilly, Hannity, and Beck they have gone BEYOND any sort of bias that exists on other outlets.

Without even mentioning the obvious (Maddow), have you seen Ed Schultz's show? It is revoltingly partisan. No network that gives an hour of prime time to Schultz can claim any high ground over Fox News at all, sorry.

[jfoobar]

Originally Posted by JasonF

I do agree that she is America's Sexiest Ever White House Press Secretary (sorry, Joe Lockhart fans).

I was always kind of partial to Dee Dee Myers back in the day, actually.