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VinVega · 09-28-06, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyronin

Its just that its...so small.

But I'm sure you're used to hearing that

I had to shrink it down for the requirements of this site.

VinVega · 09-28-06, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Vandelay_Inds

Never been fan of the Tarantino premise of stylish violence. Don't think I've seen any of his movies.

Now you've personally insulted me.

Reporting to the mods.

CRM114 · 09-28-06, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vandelay_Inds

Never been fan of the Tarantino premise of stylish violence. Don't think I've seen any of his movies.

I contend he stole it from Kubrick, but thats another thread.

JasonF · 11-20-06, 09:26 AM

OK, I have a proposal for a rule for this forum. The rule is this: if you want to talk about someone, you use their name or their title. If you want to talk about the President, you call him Mr. Bush, or President Bush, or the President. You don't call him Bushy or Shrub or whatever. If you want to talk about the Senators from Massachusetts, they are Mr. Kennedy and Mr. Kerry. They are not "Kennedy (D-Chivas)" and "Lurch."

Personally, I think the "cute" nicknames do a lot to drive the conversation around here to the lowest common denominator, so I proposed they be banned.

Anyone agree with me? Think I'm way off base?

VinVega · 11-20-06, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonF

OK, I have a proposal for a rule for this forum. The rule is this: if you want to talk about someone, you use their name or their title. If you want to talk about the President, you call him Mr. Bush, or President Bush, or the President. You don't call him Bushy or Shrub or whatever. If you want to talk about the Senators from Massachusetts, they are Mr. Kennedy and Mr. Kerry. They are not "Kennedy (D-Chivas)" and "Lurch."

Personally, I think the "cute" nicknames do a lot to drive the conversation around here to the lowest common denominator, so I proposed they be banned.

Anyone agree with me? Think I'm way off base?

I have an opinion about this, but being a mod, I don't want to post it just yet and discourage anyone from responding to your suggestion either way.

I will

for now.

General Zod · 11-20-06, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonF

Anyone agree with me?

I do. I don't use those silly names for people and I admit I don't like it when other people do either. The problem is I don't see how it could be enforced. Just seems like a lot more work for the mods. I'd also like to go one further and say please stop posting pictures of Kerry/Lunch and Bush/Monkey but that's not going to happen either.

wendersfan · 11-20-06, 10:21 AM

Since I do this anyway, I would have no problem seeing others coerced into being as polite as I already am.

Tracer Bullet · 11-20-06, 10:22 AM

I see nothing bad that could come from such a ban and something good that could, so I vote yes.

Red Dog · 11-20-06, 10:30 AM

I don't. I called Senator Allen 'douchebag' repeatedly because he's my Senator and he is a douchebag. I don't see the problem.

I frequently called Justice O'Connor "Madam Justice Wishy Washy." Why? Because it is for effect and maybe someone not familiar with it may wonder why, inquire, and learn something.

You can't even call a politician by their last name in shorthand writing? WTF?

Let's not go down this PC formality road. It's a casual discussion forum for pete's sake. Not the freakin House of Lords.

JasonF · 11-20-06, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dog

I don't. I called Senator Allen 'douchebag' repeatedly because he's my Senator and he is a douchebag. I don't see the problem.

I frequently called Justice O'Connor "Madam Justice Wishy Washy." Why? Because it is for effect and maybe someone not familiar with it may wonder why, inquire, and learn something.

You can't even call a politician by their last name in shorthand writing? WTF?

Let's not go down this PC formality road. It's a casual discussion forum for pete's sake. Not the freakin House of Lords.

I wasn't suggetsing it to be PC. I was suggesting it because it annoys me to see people posting "political discourse" that looks like it came from a fifth grader. I mean, I think (soon to be former) Senator Allen is a douchebag too -- I never liked his politics and I certainly don't buy his whole "I just made up a nonsense word that coincidentally happens to be exactly the same as a racist term they use in my mother's home country!" schtick -- but if we want to talk about him, let's call him by name.

Anyway, like all good liberals, whenever something annoys me, I propose a law to ban it.

No, I'm just kidding. But I did figure that I'd see if most other people were as annoyed as me. Also, since the mods stated goal around here is to have more civil political discourse (a goal I agree with), and since I thought "Hey, here's something that reduces the civility around here," I figured I'd throw it out to everyone.

Also, I didn't mean to imply that I was proposing that honorifics must always be used. I have no problem with people talking about Bush and Pelosi and Alito instead of Mr. Bush and Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Alito, or President Bush and Speaker Pelosi and Justice Alito.

Red Dog · 11-20-06, 02:00 PM

If it annoys you, don't post here then.

Again, this is a casual discussion forum. Why do we need so many posting rules?

This whole proposal reminds me of the nonsense addressed in the Penn & Teller Bullshit episode on profanity.

Addressing Allen as Douchebag perfectly summarizes my feelings on the man. I don't want to call him Senator or Mr. Allen. Period. And believe me, if this proposal is enacted, I will certainly find loopholes around it.

I implore you to withdrawl your request, JasonF. Sorry, Mr. JasonF.

wendersfan · 11-20-06, 02:13 PM

We should have to refer to all the other posters here as "the right hono(u)rable gentleman."

Red Dog · 11-20-06, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wendersfan

We should have to refer to all the other posters here as "the right hono(u)rable gentleman."

While our pinkies are extended holding our tea cups.

It is only a matter of time until I can't use my catchphrase for the masses in this forum.

Groucho · 11-20-06, 02:26 PM

I think the nicknames for politicians are pretty lame, but don't think we should get rid of them. If anything, they are very telling of the mentality of the poster using those names.

Rockmjd23 · 11-20-06, 02:27 PM

I wonder how Senator Macaca feels about this.

X · 11-20-06, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Groucho

I think the nicknames for politicians are pretty lame, but don't think we should get rid of them. If anything, they are very telling of the mentality of the poster using those names.

You tell 'em, Julius!

Bronkster · 11-20-06, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Groucho

I think the nicknames for politicians are pretty lame, but don't think we should get rid of them. If anything, they are very telling of the mentality of the poster using those names.

This is pretty much how I was feeling as I read the original request. The nicknames just sound like what Rush Limbaugh does to distract from whatever issue he's attempting to discuss - in fact, it seems a few of the names came directly from Rush.

I don't care for them, but I don't think it's serious enough to bog down the forum with trying to enforce a ban on them. As Groucho said, just look at the source.

nemein · 11-20-06, 03:55 PM

I'm w/ Red Dog and Groucho on this one. They are lame but moderating it is going to a pain in the ass, plus it gives you an idea of the mentality of the person you are dealing w/ and whether or not it is even worth attempting a conversation w/ them.

Red Dog · 11-20-06, 04:00 PM

Thank you. If someone doesn't want to converse with me if I call Allen "Senator Douchebag" or O'Connor "Madam Justice Wishy Washy," I couldn't give a rat's ass.

VinVega · 11-20-06, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Groucho

I think the nicknames for politicians are pretty lame, but don't think we should get rid of them. If anything, they are very telling of the mentality of the poster using those names.

I hate to say it, but I agree with Groucho.

Even scarier is that I agree with nemein.

Oh and Red Dog, Carbon Blobs™ will always be allowed here. It's legally trademarked you know.

Red Dog · 11-20-06, 04:08 PM

I don't believe offensive terms can be trademarked. See the Washington Redskins, so I'm sure PC will catch up with me in this forum at some point.

CRM114 · 11-20-06, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dog

Thank you. If someone doesn't want to converse with me if I call Allen "Senator Douchebag" or O'Connor "Madam Justice Wishy Washy," I couldn't give a rat's ass.

I'll still converse with you.

I'm apparently another rapscallion for calling Allen Senator Macaca.

I mean the Macaca moment will go down in infamy - its completely appropriate especially since Allen is just a regular Joe now thanks to the people of VA.

Red Dog · 11-20-06, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CRM114

I'll still converse with you.

Oh goodie.

CRM114 · 11-20-06, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dog

Oh goodie.

Well, I know. I just meant I will post and you can ridicule me.

JasonF · 11-20-06, 05:41 PM

OK. I guess it's just me then.

It doesn't seem like a harder rule to enforce than "no generalizations" or "no personal attacks on other members," but I'm not a mod, so who am I to say what's a hard rule to enforce. No biggie.

11-20-06, 09:26 AM	#54
JasonF DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 24,023	OK, I have a proposal for a rule for this forum. The rule is this: if you want to talk about someone, you use their name or their title. If you want to talk about the President, you call him Mr. Bush, or President Bush, or the President. You don't call him Bushy or Shrub or whatever. If you want to talk about the Senators from Massachusetts, they are Mr. Kennedy and Mr. Kerry. They are not "Kennedy (D-Chivas)" and "Lurch." Personally, I think the "cute" nicknames do a lot to drive the conversation around here to the lowest common denominator, so I proposed they be banned. Anyone agree with me? Think I'm way off base? __________________ These are my DVDs ۞ GamerTag: William T Bunny Things fall apart; the center cannot hold; mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere the ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.

11-20-06, 10:21 AM	#57
wendersfan Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Yo soy la voz, la voz de Columbus Posts: 23,821	Since I do this anyway, I would have no problem seeing others coerced into being as polite as I already am. __________________ "Fifth Element may be as dumb and artless as Johnny Mnemonic, but since a frenchman made it it must be ART!" -Pants "...I think it's a low blow to draw attention to wendersfan's drunken state. " - dork "Just because their victims are still alive doesn't mean they didn't commit murder." - grundle "You concentrate on the sad wanna be hooliganism and let us worry about the actual soccer." - rocketsauce (final score: Columbus 2-Chicago 1)

11-20-06, 10:22 AM	#58
Tracer Bullet DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Zorgonia Avenue, Queens Posts: 17,380	I see nothing bad that could come from such a ban and something good that could, so I vote yes. __________________ http://www.cartridgeblowers.com kvrdave. Making gay men hard since 1999. I agree it is correct, but Enterprise kind of botched the continuity. -wmansir THE BORG ARE NOT A SPECIES. THANK YOU.

11-20-06, 10:30 AM	#59
Red Dog DVD Talk God Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Directionally Challenged (for DirecTV) Posts: 77,528	I don't. I called Senator Allen 'douchebag' repeatedly because he's my Senator and he is a douchebag. I don't see the problem. I frequently called Justice O'Connor "Madam Justice Wishy Washy." Why? Because it is for effect and maybe someone not familiar with it may wonder why, inquire, and learn something. You can't even call a politician by their last name in shorthand writing? WTF? Let's not go down this PC formality road. It's a casual discussion forum for pete's sake. Not the freakin House of Lords. __________________ "A question for you. Would you rather Bucknell make the NCAA's once every 20 years or so and get ass raped by teams like Kansas in the first round or have them drop down a rung to a confernce where they can compete for a title?" - Josh Hinkle 1st Round Final Scores: Bucknell 64 Kansas 63 \| Bucknell 59 Arkansas 55 Last edited by Red Dog; 11-20-06 at 10:40 AM.

11-20-06, 02:00 PM	#61
Red Dog DVD Talk God Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Directionally Challenged (for DirecTV) Posts: 77,528	If it annoys you, don't post here then. Again, this is a casual discussion forum. Why do we need so many posting rules? This whole proposal reminds me of the nonsense addressed in the Penn & Teller Bullshit episode on profanity. Addressing Allen as Douchebag perfectly summarizes my feelings on the man. I don't want to call him Senator or Mr. Allen. Period. And believe me, if this proposal is enacted, I will certainly find loopholes around it. I implore you to withdrawl your request, JasonF. Sorry, Mr. JasonF. __________________ "A question for you. Would you rather Bucknell make the NCAA's once every 20 years or so and get ass raped by teams like Kansas in the first round or have them drop down a rung to a confernce where they can compete for a title?" - Josh Hinkle 1st Round Final Scores: Bucknell 64 Kansas 63 \| Bucknell 59 Arkansas 55 Last edited by Red Dog; 11-20-06 at 02:02 PM.

11-20-06, 02:13 PM	#62
wendersfan Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Yo soy la voz, la voz de Columbus Posts: 23,821	We should have to refer to all the other posters here as "the right hono(u)rable gentleman." __________________ "Fifth Element may be as dumb and artless as Johnny Mnemonic, but since a frenchman made it it must be ART!" -Pants "...I think it's a low blow to draw attention to wendersfan's drunken state. " - dork "Just because their victims are still alive doesn't mean they didn't commit murder." - grundle "You concentrate on the sad wanna be hooliganism and let us worry about the actual soccer." - rocketsauce (final score: Columbus 2-Chicago 1)

11-20-06, 02:26 PM	#64
Groucho DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 46,698	I think the nicknames for politicians are pretty lame, but don't think we should get rid of them. If anything, they are very telling of the mentality of the poster using those names.

11-20-06, 02:27 PM	#65
Rockmjd23 DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MA Posts: 14,272	I wonder how Senator Macaca feels about this.

11-20-06, 03:55 PM	#68
nemein Moderator Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: 1bit away from total disaster Posts: 32,703	I'm w/ Red Dog and Groucho on this one. They are lame but moderating it is going to a pain in the ass, plus it gives you an idea of the mentality of the person you are dealing w/ and whether or not it is even worth attempting a conversation w/ them. __________________ "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened." -- Norman Thomas, Socialist Party of America "Do the right thing even if it means dying like a dog when no one's there to see you do it." - Vice Admiral James Bond Stockdale My Countdown Counting down to: End of the 5th world age 1124 days 8 hours 37 minutes

11-20-06, 04:00 PM	#69
Red Dog DVD Talk God Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Directionally Challenged (for DirecTV) Posts: 77,528	Thank you. If someone doesn't want to converse with me if I call Allen "Senator Douchebag" or O'Connor "Madam Justice Wishy Washy," I couldn't give a rat's ass. __________________ "A question for you. Would you rather Bucknell make the NCAA's once every 20 years or so and get ass raped by teams like Kansas in the first round or have them drop down a rung to a confernce where they can compete for a title?" - Josh Hinkle 1st Round Final Scores: Bucknell 64 Kansas 63 \| Bucknell 59 Arkansas 55

11-20-06, 04:08 PM	#71
Red Dog DVD Talk God Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Directionally Challenged (for DirecTV) Posts: 77,528	I don't believe offensive terms can be trademarked. See the Washington Redskins, so I'm sure PC will catch up with me in this forum at some point. __________________ "A question for you. Would you rather Bucknell make the NCAA's once every 20 years or so and get ass raped by teams like Kansas in the first round or have them drop down a rung to a confernce where they can compete for a title?" - Josh Hinkle 1st Round Final Scores: Bucknell 64 Kansas 63 \| Bucknell 59 Arkansas 55

11-20-06, 05:41 PM	#75
JasonF DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 24,023	OK. I guess it's just me then. It doesn't seem like a harder rule to enforce than "no generalizations" or "no personal attacks on other members," but I'm not a mod, so who am I to say what's a hard rule to enforce. No biggie. __________________ These are my DVDs ۞ GamerTag: William T Bunny Things fall apart; the center cannot hold; mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere the ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.