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Union Thugs Unhinged
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Ah, the "party of peace". What great people...
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eh, no real surprises.
is that black woman in the last photo raising her arm in the Black Panthers "we shall overcome" salute?
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I unfortunately think people in California are for the most part completely ignorant and will wind up voting against this prop because they believe the lies spewed forth on tv. Then again, this is a state that kicked out Grey Davis because he put the state in financial ruin but then turned around and since then has voted in almost every bond measure that's come before them. Most of the folks i've talked to about the upcoming election have told me "the commercials say it's bad, so i'm voting against it". This, I think, is the average intelligence of the California voter. Sheep. And these idiots in the photos above are simply believing whatever their unions tell them. I'd also go out on a limb and bet there's not a single republican in the "mob scene". What're my bets?
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Now this is just low. Telling people to cash in charity donations even if they didn't suffer a loss and cheapening Red Cross aid to 'gift cards'.
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Initiating violence against innocent people is wrong.
Most union members don't do that. But it's a shame that the unions don't have more public criticism of their members who do do that. Stuff like this can only give people a bad opinion about unions. Unions were a lot better in the old days, when they tried to protect 8 year old boys and girls from going down mine shafts, and from getting their arms chopped off in factories. I liked unions a lot better when they protected people from violence, instead of causing the violence. |
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Remember when corporations hired thugs to attempt to keep workers from organizing?
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Not personally Does that excuse/explain the behavior of these people now though?
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![]() Democrats often only support free speech if it is the "correct" free speech. And they think they have a monopoly on showing up at events with a dissenting voice. Those doing so at their events will be crushed.
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The use of baseball bats by corporation thugs to beat workers over the head is not an exercise in free speech.
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It's all the corporations' fault. Since the corporations STOPPED hiring them, the thugs needed to join the unions and get real jobs so they could keep paying rent.
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![]() But you've seen Matewan, right? ![]() Growing up in an area where the UAW ranked as high as the 12 Apostles in the public estimation, tales of violence against union members were told to me and my friends as bedtime stories.
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Or atleast that's what I suspect some around here believe ![]()
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Michelle Malkin evidently should return to playing with her Barbies if she thinks this is newsworthy.
Was this a Union protest? And an opponent was stupid enough to go into it? And Malkin thinks this is news?Ms. Malkin should attend a Philadelphia Eagles game with a Dallas Cowboys shirt on one time. Run along and play now, Michelle. |
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According to your bedtime stories maybe ![]() Seriously talk of unions and what not really wasn't a big thing in my house growing up. Neither of my parents belonged to one and while I think one of my grandfathers may have it wasn't that big of a deal either way. I'll ask again though (since you seemed to have missed it ), does this behavior in the distant past excuse/explain the behavior of these people now?
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![]() Union people are tough people - and not the best educated. There are other ways to voice a protest other than walking into a union rally with a "Unions Suck" sign. Its called common sense. |
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c-man's post seems to be stating though that because of the actions of certain people in the past actions now should be overlooked. Maybe I'm reading too much into it (in making the connection I did) or maybe I'm not reading enough into (in the sense he's also supporting this "nonsense like this happens all the time and not justi in Unions"). Overall I agree w/ you and people are going to people. Few people like dissent and when you're in the majority it's easy to squash the minority. Not the type of society we really want and are trying to develop, but that's life. So maybe a better way to phrase the question to c-man would be to ask what relevance those past events have on today/this news item?
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There is tons of web video of Republicans being attacked by Democrats in crowds. I haven't found any the other way around. I'm sure there is something, but its far, far more prevalent the other way, with the "peaceful" left.
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It's simply a response to the union bashing that we see on this forum from our right-wing members.
I see precious little criticism from those same members when it comes to corporations. I wonder why? I'm just kidding. I really know why. ![]() |
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Maybe because you are talking about some era when baseball bats were used that nobody else remembers.
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DVD Talk God
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And some of you right-wingers choose not to remember.
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If it is before the 70s, I couldn't if I tried.
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Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - C.S. Lewis |
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