If the other guy wins, what is the positive for you?

kvrdave · 10-03-04, 07:11 PM

Don't threadcrap. Just don't do it.

But if the person you support doesn't win, where is the silver lining?

For me, if Kerry wins, I fully expect section 8 HUD funding to be returned to where it was with Clinton. I think Bush has cut that section by about 80%. I agree with cutting it, but it also affects me in terms of rentals. So....if Kerry wins, I don't doubt for a minute that I will probably benefit financially.

The other silver lining would be getting to trash talk about the economy and saying things like "look at this weak growth" and listen to liberals say, "It is still growth" and it will be just like we all switched seats, but still argue the same shit with the same lines, but now the president is of a different party, so we feel differently about it.

(This is so damn sad and true at the same time).

wendersfan · 10-03-04, 07:16 PM

Let's see -

If Kerry wins, there's a better chance that some of my friends might be able to get married someday.

If Bush wins, my taxes will stay low(er).

If Nader wins, The Daily Show might become funny again.

Pharoh · 10-03-04, 07:18 PM

I will have an increased workload and likely make more money. I will leave it at that.

dork · 10-03-04, 07:20 PM

Pharoh's a hitman.

Pharoh · 10-03-04, 07:24 PM

Shhh!

tcoursen · 10-03-04, 07:24 PM

I'm positive my taxes will go up.

nevermind · 10-03-04, 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by tcoursen
I'm positive my taxes will go up.

Nazgul · 10-03-04, 07:27 PM

Less Americans will say they're be ashamed to be Americans?

We'll get our world respect back?

Pharoh · 10-03-04, 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by Nazgul
Less Americans will say they're be ashamed to be Americans?

We'll get our world respect back?

And the positive of this?

Global Observer · 10-03-04, 07:32 PM

If Kerry wins, America will have a truly nutty first lady...that could be a lot of fun.

DJLinus · 10-03-04, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by wendersfan
If Kerry wins, there's a better chance that some of my friends might be able to get married someday.

If Bush wins, my taxes will stay low(er).

If Nader wins, The Daily Show might become funny again.

Agree on all points, although I think the Daily Show is still pretty funny. But with a Nader presidency, it would be HILARIOUS.

Also, if Kerry wins then the very vocal and annoying part of the ABB crowd will no longer have anything to complain about and musicians/actors will go back to making music/movies/TV. (Ah, who am I kidding?)

And if Bush wins, it'll continue to piss them off. Win-win!

bfrank · 10-03-04, 08:17 PM

I think for most of us the difference will be actually very small.

Its going to be super hard term for either side. They will need to fix this war deal and all the local issues that have been sidelined. Then we have the problem of spending and its risk of pushing up interest rates. Tough times for sure! I see each being replaced by the other party after this term.

Kerry win could lead to McCain in 2008
Bush win could lead to Clinton in 2008

Wonder if this would change anyones vote

kvrdave · 10-03-04, 09:16 PM

McCain will not have any more chance than Dean. Too honest, and too prone to say stupid stuff.

I still like the idea of staying at war in a Muslim country continuously. I think it helps concentrate the terrorists efforts over there rather than here.

Caliking · 10-03-04, 09:31 PM

hmmm...maybe i can quit working, get everything for free, blame everyone else, and not care about lowering the country's standard of living.

mookyman · 10-03-04, 09:48 PM

I could just come up with something smug to say about Bush, but that seems kinda weak given that some thought actually went into this thread.

One upside might be that I don't doubt Bush's intention to keep with his current plans for the war on terror, so while I disagree with much of that plan, at least the positive things happening in Iraq (rebuilt schools, etc.) will continue.

mikehunt · 10-03-04, 10:19 PM

I'll get even more junk mail from the NRA saying they need money to fight kerry's newest gun ban
oh wait, you said positive

Captain Pike · 10-04-04, 12:19 AM

If Bush wins the positive will be that the nation will be so screwed up by the end of his second term that Republicans won't have a shot at the presidency again for decades.

icondude · 10-04-04, 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by Caliking
hmmm...maybe i can quit working, get everything for free, blame everyone else, and not care about lowering the country's standard of living.

I agree that this would be the positive of having a Kerry administration.

bhk · 10-04-04, 08:05 AM

No Hillary in '08 or 2012.

Goldblum · 10-04-04, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Captain Pike
If Bush wins the positive will be that the nation will be so screwed up by the end of his second term that Republicans won't have a shot at the presidency again for decades.

Thanks for not threadcrapping.

Anyway, if Kerry wins, the positive for me will probably be the positive for me if Bush wins in all honesty. I doubt my life will change either way.

Geofferson · 10-04-04, 08:50 AM

If Kerry wins, the positive for me will be that I won't have to listen to people I work with, actors/actresses and musical artists get their Bush bash on. DJLinus said it already...actors/musicians can go back to doing what they do best.

bhk · 10-04-04, 08:52 AM

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DJLinus said it already...actors/musicians can go back to doing what they do best.

Are you kidding? Their enormous egos will become even more inflated and they will drone on and on about their pet causes.

Geofferson · 10-04-04, 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by bhk
Are you kidding? Their enormous egos will become even more inflated and they will drone on and on about their pet causes.

I see your point, but honestly I have never seen such hatred for the current president by public figures in the media as we see now in that hatred of Bush. Many loathed Reagan, but not to this extent. If Kerry is elected, yeah, maybe some egos will get out of control, but I don't think we'll hear a follow-up song to Green Day's American Idiot anytime soon.

das Monkey · 10-04-04, 09:18 AM

Honestly, this is not a threadcrap, but the biggest upside is that I won't have to listen to the same people complain about the same shit all the freakin' time.

I answer with something like this because bfrank is right. If Kerry wins, and if they're honest with themselves, his supporters are going to be very disappointed at how little changes over the next 4 years. Most everything is going to be the same, just with a different face and a different group of people bitching about it all the time.

I would like to hope that things that really piss me off like the out-of-control FCC would change under Kerry, but I just don't see that happening. And don't fool yourself with the gay marriage issue. Bush says he wants a Constitutional amendment when he knows it won't pass, because it's politically advantageous to do so. Kerry says he thinks it should be up to the states, because its "different" from Bush without meaning anything, and that makes him look "better" to the gay voters. In reality, the status of gay marriage in this country will not be affected by which of these two men is President.

It's sad that I can't give a better answer to this good question, but the biggest upside I see will be change for the sake of change. Everyone will switch seats and bitch about the stuff they've been apologizing for, and apologize for what they've been bitching about, and we can all be exposed for the raging hypocrites that we are. It's exhausting and paralyzing for the same people to keep going in circles all the time, and maybe, just maybe, during that shake-up we can get something accomplished. If not, at least we'll have a new guy to make fun of 24/7.

das

Geofferson · 10-04-04, 09:26 AM

I forgot to add...

The biggest positive if Kerry wins and Bush loses is that rape will remain illegal.

http://dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread....hreadid=388338

10-03-04, 07:11 PM	#1
kvrdave DVD Talk God Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 79,152	If the other guy wins, what is the positive for you? Don't threadcrap. Just don't do it. But if the person you support doesn't win, where is the silver lining? For me, if Kerry wins, I fully expect section 8 HUD funding to be returned to where it was with Clinton. I think Bush has cut that section by about 80%. I agree with cutting it, but it also affects me in terms of rentals. So....if Kerry wins, I don't doubt for a minute that I will probably benefit financially. The other silver lining would be getting to trash talk about the economy and saying things like "look at this weak growth" and listen to liberals say, "It is still growth" and it will be just like we all switched seats, but still argue the same shit with the same lines, but now the president is of a different party, so we feel differently about it. (This is so damn sad and true at the same time). __________________ Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - C.S. Lewis

10-03-04, 07:16 PM	#2
wendersfan Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Where homophobes don't get slut sauce Posts: 28,260	Let's see - If Kerry wins, there's a better chance that some of my friends might be able to get married someday. If Bush wins, my taxes will stay low(er). If Nader wins, The Daily Show might become funny again. __________________ "Fifth Element may be as dumb and artless as Johnny Mnemonic, but since a frenchman made it it must be ART!" -Pants "...I think it's a low blow to draw attention to wendersfan's drunken state. " - dork "Just because their victims are still alive doesn't mean they didn't commit murder." - grundle "You concentrate on the sad wanna be hooliganism and let us worry about the actual soccer." - rocketsauce (final score: Columbus 2-Chicago 1)

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10-03-04, 08:17 PM	#12
bfrank Premium Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: So. Cal Posts: 20,613	I think for most of us the difference will be actually very small. Its going to be super hard term for either side. They will need to fix this war deal and all the local issues that have been sidelined. Then we have the problem of spending and its risk of pushing up interest rates. Tough times for sure! I see each being replaced by the other party after this term. Kerry win could lead to McCain in 2008 Bush win could lead to Clinton in 2008 Wonder if this would change anyones vote __________________ B Be good humans!

10-03-04, 09:16 PM	#13
kvrdave DVD Talk God Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 79,152	McCain will not have any more chance than Dean. Too honest, and too prone to say stupid stuff. I still like the idea of staying at war in a Muslim country continuously. I think it helps concentrate the terrorists efforts over there rather than here. __________________ Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - C.S. Lewis

10-03-04, 07:18 PM	#3
Pharoh DVD Talk Legend Join Date: May 2000 Location: In sadness and denial Posts: 21,163	I will have an increased workload and likely make more money. I will leave it at that.

10-03-04, 07:20 PM	#4
dork DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,960	Pharoh's a hitman.

10-03-04, 07:24 PM	#5
Pharoh DVD Talk Legend Join Date: May 2000 Location: In sadness and denial Posts: 21,163	Shhh!

10-03-04, 07:24 PM	#6
tcoursen DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,608	I'm positive my taxes will go up.

10-03-04, 07:32 PM	#10
Global Observer Suspended Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 243	If Kerry wins, America will have a truly nutty first lady...that could be a lot of fun.

10-03-04, 09:31 PM	#14
Caliking DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,065	hmmm...maybe i can quit working, get everything for free, blame everyone else, and not care about lowering the country's standard of living. __________________ "I saved Latin. What did you ever do?"

10-03-04, 09:48 PM	#15
mookyman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 573	I could just come up with something smug to say about Bush, but that seems kinda weak given that some thought actually went into this thread. One upside might be that I don't doubt Bush's intention to keep with his current plans for the war on terror, so while I disagree with much of that plan, at least the positive things happening in Iraq (rebuilt schools, etc.) will continue. __________________ "Yes, Gamera is powered by farts." - Roger Ebert Cinevistaramascope

10-03-04, 10:19 PM	#16
mikehunt DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bartertown due to it having a better economy than where I really live, Buffalo NY Posts: 29,148	I'll get even more junk mail from the NRA saying they need money to fight kerry's newest gun ban oh wait, you said positive __________________ USS Ben Sisko's Mother F***ing Pimp Hand - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT2Xpfm7Iq8&feature=plcp Vote for freedom not political parties. .... MOΛΩN ΛABE If they had a philosophy. If they weren't too busy gnawing on your insides.

10-04-04, 12:19 AM	#17
Captain Pike Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Under the Stars Posts: 1,330	If Bush wins the positive will be that the nation will be so screwed up by the end of his second term that Republicans won't have a shot at the presidency again for decades.

10-04-04, 08:05 AM	#19
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10-04-04, 08:50 AM	#21
Geofferson DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: TechNoir Posts: 36,446	If Kerry wins, the positive for me will be that I won't have to listen to people I work with, actors/actresses and musical artists get their Bush bash on. DJLinus said it already...actors/musicians can go back to doing what they do best.

10-04-04, 09:18 AM	#24
das Monkey DVD Talk Hero Join Date: May 1999 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 35,881	Honestly, this is not a threadcrap, but the biggest upside is that I won't have to listen to the same people complain about the same shit all the freakin' time. I answer with something like this because bfrank is right. If Kerry wins, and if they're honest with themselves, his supporters are going to be very disappointed at how little changes over the next 4 years. Most everything is going to be the same, just with a different face and a different group of people bitching about it all the time. I would like to hope that things that really piss me off like the out-of-control FCC would change under Kerry, but I just don't see that happening. And don't fool yourself with the gay marriage issue. Bush says he wants a Constitutional amendment when he knows it won't pass, because it's politically advantageous to do so. Kerry says he thinks it should be up to the states, because its "different" from Bush without meaning anything, and that makes him look "better" to the gay voters. In reality, the status of gay marriage in this country will not be affected by which of these two men is President. It's sad that I can't give a better answer to this good question, but the biggest upside I see will be change for the sake of change. Everyone will switch seats and bitch about the stuff they've been apologizing for, and apologize for what they've been bitching about, and we can all be exposed for the raging hypocrites that we are. It's exhausting and paralyzing for the same people to keep going in circles all the time, and maybe, just maybe, during that shake-up we can get something accomplished. If not, at least we'll have a new guy to make fun of 24/7. das __________________ DragonCon 2004 - 2005 - Lost in Hawaii - DVD Reviews You are not* entitled to your own opinion. You are only entitled to your own informed opinion.** -- Harlan Ellison quoting Gustave Flaubert

10-04-04, 09:26 AM	#25
Geofferson DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: TechNoir Posts: 36,446	I forgot to add... The biggest positive if Kerry wins and Bush loses is that rape will remain illegal. http://dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread....hreadid=388338