2009 WSOP Main Event on ESPN Discussion

[atari2600]

Originally Posted by outcastja

Pretty brutal missing the final table because of cracked Aces. The player I'm rooting against is Begleiter, that guy is an ass.

yes, thats the guy i was referring too. couldnt remember his name.

[Deftones]

didn't know Ivey made the final table. awesome. i hope he wins it so we can finally talk about him being the best poker player alive instead of some other people

[El Scorcho]

they play from 9 down to 2 tomorrow starting at noon.. live audio on cardplayer or pokernews or one of those type sites

then monday they play heads up for the title

then tuesday espn airs it from 6pm (9 eastern) til 8:30 (11:30 eastern), leaving it mostly open ended so they don't get caught with their pants down like last year and leave themselves with only enough time to show 2 heads up hands

[El Scorcho]

they play from 9 down to 2 tomorrow starting at noon.. live audio on cardplayer or pokernews or one of those type sites

then monday they play heads up for the title

then tuesday espn airs it from 6pm (9 eastern) til 8:30 (11:30 eastern), leaving it mostly open ended so they don't get caught with their pants down like last year and leave themselves with only enough time to show 2 heads up hands

[LorenzoL]

Looking forward to today's final table.

Do we use spoiler tags to comment on the action and who's eliminated until ESPN/TSN airs the final table episode?

[pinata242]

I'd say not but it wouldn't hurt. People should know to stay out of the thread if they don't want to be spoiled.

[Jeremy517]

Spoilers for the final table thus far:

Spoiler:

Akenhead out ninth
Schaffel out eighth

Ivey treading water around 8MM

Moon makes a bizarre play against Begleiter and dumps about 20MM to him. That is twice that Moon has donked off a bunch of chips.

Buchman leads with 52MM, Begleiter second with 45MM. Moon down to 39MM.

[Jeremy517]

Spoiler:

Moon is absolutely terrible.

Preflop:
Moon raises to 1.3, Begleiter raises to 3.9, Moon calls.

Flop comes: 2 3 4 with two spades

Begleiter bets 5.3, Moon raises to 15, Begleiter raises to 21, Moon folds

Moon: "When he came over the top of me, I knew I was drawing dead"
followed by
Moon: "I thought he had AKs"

You thought you were drawing dead against an unmade hand? What? Ugh.

[pedagogue]

Yeah...I was hoping they'd televise the Final 9, instead of 14 down to 9. Eh.

[mgbfan]

Originally Posted by outcastja

Pretty brutal missing the final table because of cracked Aces. The player I'm rooting against is Begleiter, that guy is an ass.

I agree. The guy seems to be a donkey who thinks he's a shark. He's constantly playing garbage out of position. Granted, we've seen only a sliver of his hands, but what I've seen has me rooting against him as well.

I was also shocked that Schulman is only like 35. He looks at least 50.

Will be rooting for Ivey first, Moon second. I like Darvin. He's got the sense to know that he's not overly talentend and just running really well. It's a humility a guy like Begliter could use.

Oh, and I also like the kid who looks like Joe Mauer (only skinnier and with a bigger nose). I forget his name.

[mgbfan]

Originally Posted by atari2600

think ive seen him make one good move all tourney..the rest of the time he had the nuts and people just gave chips to him.

Getting max value out of his good hands is a good move. Granted, he's had a TON of good hands, but ... he sells a loose-cannon persona very well, but really just plays good, fairly vanilla tight aggressive poker. While everybody else is trying to be fancy and make advanced plays, Darvin's pretty much playing what he's dealt, getting it in when he's ahead, mucking when he's behind. There's something to be said for solid, tight-aggressive poker.

[Jeremy517]

Spoiler:

Ivey out. AK < Moon's AQ. Ugh

[pedagogue]

Eh, shit!

[El Scorcho]

Final 2some commences at 10pm tonight. Audio stream (with a graphic display indicating the action) will be available on bluffmagazine.com.

the participants:

Spoiler:

Cada - something like $138M in chips
Moon - something like $56M in chips

[brainee]

For those of you hoping to avoid spoilers when watching tonight's show ... STAY AWAY FROM YAHOO!!! It's right out there on the main page ... you don't even have a second to look away. I wasn't even going there for any reason ... Yahoo's been my homepage for ages, and I booted up and it just hit me before I could react.

[Quack]

Yea, WTF Yahoo!, thanks for ruining it for me!!!!!

[TheDude]

Originally Posted by El Scorcho

Final 2some commences at 10pm tonight. Audio stream (with a graphic display indicating the action) will be available on bluffmagazine.com.

Just reading the highlights from ESPN's blog, sounds like it should make for some pretty good TV.

[Doug Heffernan]

Originally Posted by quack

yea, wtf yahoo!, thanks for ruining it for me!!!!!

arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghgggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!

[brainee]

Though it is making me to see nearly 1000 comments already on the Yahoo story ... with most of them thowing down curses upon the heads of Yahoo editors.

ESPN was much more tactful - they just have a news item that touts a new poker champ was crowned (you have to click on the link to see who won).

[sauce07]

Originally Posted by Quack

Yea, WTF Yahoo!, thanks for ruining it for me!!!!!

Stupid Stupid Stupid

Thanks for ruining my night

[El Scorcho]

Originally Posted by TheDude

Just reading the highlights from ESPN's blog, sounds like it should make for some pretty good TV.

I listened to all 78 hands. Very exciting action -- those waiting for the TV show tonight should be in for a treat provided they show more than 2 hands of heads up (like last year).

For those recording the episodes, make sure you pad the shit out of your recording with extra time. Word was that they were given a semi-open-ended time block to broadcast the final table so that if the table went longer than expected, they wouldn't find themselves in that 2-hands-of-heads-up situation like last year.

And given that the final table was the longest in history, I would expect them to use that open-ended time allowance.

[Finisher]

Good God that was even more horrific than usual.

[El Scorcho]

i enjoyed the coverage though

kinda disappointed we got no quick norman chad interview with the winner at the end though

also pretty sure moon and cada almost made out at one point when they were telling each other how awesome each other was

[OscarBluth]

This wasn't live, was it? For the second year, Comcast or ESPN has fucked me on this. I sit through 2 hours of it on my DVR and it ends at 2:00 with three players left? Comcast has an automatic 'record with extra time' feature, but it never showed up for this- And it has a green bar, so it's in Comcast's system as sports. ESPN also shows 2:00 as the run time for the repeats of the final table episode. So is it ESPN, or is it Comcast? It doesn't really matter at this point, but I'm still curious.

This happened in 2007, and I didn't bother watching in 2008 since it was spoiled by my local newspaper's website announcing the winner in a headline. This makes three years in a row.

I'm not going to bother watching again.

[pinata242]

Hey, ESPN, here's a little math tip: You can't fit 150 minutes of TV in a 120-minute block. That's from me to you, no charge this time.

Like Papa Bluth there, I get to the 2:00 mark and it ends in the middle of a Cada/Saout hand. Luckily I was in the middle of the late rebroadcast on ESPN2, so I just set that to record with a 30-minute buffer on the end thinking that was more than enough because, shirley, they only went over by 5-10 minutes tops, right? Tournament ended at 2:27. For fuck's sake...

Another thing is they really need to reel in the leaving the table shit. As much as I don't like the cheering sections and stuff, it's far more annoying to see Moon standing there, behind, while Cada walks off to be cradled by his daddy.

In short, ESPN needs to get their head out of their collective ass before 2010, especially with spoiling the Ivey results in a commercial 7.5 episodes early.

Edit: Oh yeah, and Vince Neil, seriously?