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El Scorcho · 11-25-04, 01:16 AM

Closed out at $442.

El Scorcho · 11-25-04, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mgbfan
Wow! Nice run. Do your craps bets count toward the bonus? The TOS said something about craps and roulette not counting. You might want to check that.

Oops, didn't see the craps thing. Saw roulette but forgot craps don't count. I figure about 30-40 of my points were on craps. I got no problem going back and re-doing these.

I'm not gonna do two accts, btw. This isn't like amazon.com or some shit. They monitor this stuff way too heavily hehe.

El Scorcho · 11-25-04, 01:34 AM

Just got off the phone with them.

I asked if I was eligible to cash out now and was wondering about the Craps thing. I said the site said it isn't eligible but the guy immediately cut me off and said "trust me, it is.."

El Scorcho · 11-25-04, 01:38 AM

My profits would have been better if some perfect double down situations had gone my way.

I was doing the 2-2-3-5-10 betting method, where each win moves you to the next bet and each loss starts you over at $2 bet. Any loss in the streak still ends you with a couple bucks profit.

Anyway, I got up to the $10 bet a couple times. On two of those I had 11 vs. dealer 6. Doubled and got garbage. And both times the dealer ended up with 20.

actyper · 11-25-04, 12:27 PM

Yeah it has been confirmed that craps does count toward WR. I'm assuming as long as you don't only play the pass line.

If you plan on playing Reef, play it on tues Nov 30. BJ Treasure Hunt will net you an extra $25. Check the players club section for more info.

mgbfan · 11-25-04, 11:13 PM

Cool - just peeked in my Reef Club account and they gave me a $10 bonus just for nothing.

moorehed · 11-26-04, 01:42 AM

these guys are on a network of sites, all using the same software. i'm sure there are others offering the same promotion. someone less lazy than me find them and report back.

hahah.

El Scorcho · 11-26-04, 02:34 AM

haha

yeah these guys also had the nice bonus for pacific poker too

El Scorcho · 11-26-04, 02:40 AM

ok, just found this one:

http://www.casinotropez.com/bonus.html#100free

To receive your 100% free play bonus up to $100, you need to make your first single deposit into your account and you will receive this play bonus instantly!

For example:
Deposit $50 get $50 Free - You play with $100
Deposit $100 get $100 Free - You play with $200

Please note that the only deposit that is eligible for this play bonus is your first deposit at the Casino.

The total maximum play bonus that will be given for your first deposit bonus is $100.

This play bonus may not be combined with any other bonus unless otherwise stated.

In the interest of fair gaming in order to cash out any amount of money you must wager at least eight (8) times your play bonus plus deposit. If you withdraw before having reached the minimum wagering requirements, your bonus and winnings will be void.

For example:
Deposit $50 get $50 Free - minimum wager is $800
Deposit $100 get $100 Free - minimum wager is $1600

Bets placed on Baccarat, Craps, Roulette , Sic Bo and all 4-line Video Poker games will be not be counted toward wagering requirements.

El Scorcho · 11-26-04, 03:30 AM

Here's a huge list, including bonus requirements

http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/p.../vpost?id=1541

mgbfan · 11-26-04, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Scorcho
you must wager at least eight (8) times your play bonus plus deposit. [/b]

Hmm - so that's basically 16x the bonus. Getting up there, but should be still worth doing. If you figure a house edge at 3%, you'll lose $48 on average, so you can figure to walk away ahead about $50.

El Scorcho · 11-26-04, 01:40 PM

Yeah, you also have to be careful of three things:

1) "sticky" bonuses -- you deposit $x, they add $y bonus. Wager n times the bonus + requirement.. and then when you cash out, they subtract $y from your total.

2) Some bonus requirements aren't blackjack-eligible

3) Reef Club Casino and Casino-on-Net only required you bet 10x the BONUS amount. Almost all other casinos require you to bet some sort of mulitple of the (bonus + deposit) amount.

El Scorcho · 11-26-04, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mgbfan
Hmm - so that's basically 16x the bonus. Getting up there, but should be still worth doing. If you figure a house edge at 3%, you'll lose $48 on average, so you can figure to walk away ahead about $50.

Yeah, for a $50 gain though it's almost not worth it. A bad swing of the cards and you could find yourself losing $60-70 or even more.

actyper · 11-26-04, 02:23 PM

I have the feeling Tropez is a "sticky bonus"

Deposit $50 get $50 Free - You play with $100

The word "play" IMO could mean that its a sticky.

moorehed · 11-26-04, 02:34 PM

so its a bonus you can play with, but can't cash out?

if you deposited 50, got 50 sticky, then lost 50...

would you have lost your 50 or their 50?

actyper · 11-26-04, 03:37 PM

If its a sticky, you lost their $50.

mgbfan · 11-26-04, 04:51 PM

Hmm .... so a sticky bonus is basically just a buffer then? Probably still a +EV situation, but ... hardly exciting at that level.

A question comes to mind regarding this kind of bonus - what does the playthrough lock? Your deposit money? If I deposit $50, get the $50 sticky bonus, play for awhile and go in the tank, is the deposit withdrawable or is it locked in?

If the deposit is withdrawable anytime, I'd think the proper way to play this sort of bonus would be bet the full amount of the sticky on a single hand of blackjack or pai gow. If you win, you're in business. If you lose, take your deposit money and get out. That would make it enough of a +EV proposition to be worthwhile.

mgbfan · 11-26-04, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Scorcho
Yeah, for a $50 gain though it's almost not worth it. A bad swing of the cards and you could find yourself losing $60-70 or even more.

But the bell curve is still going to be well in your favor. The odds of you losing 60-70 are balanced by the odds of you coming out ahead 70-80 (including bonus).

I don't need a sure thing. I just want a situation where the odds are in my favor, and they would be here by a fairly comfortable margin. Assuming, of course, it's not one of those "sticky" bonuses. If it is, then it's probably just not a good enough deal.

moorehed · 11-26-04, 05:47 PM

mgb, thanks for the heads up on this!

actyper · 11-26-04, 06:00 PM

There are much better sticky bonuses out there, usually ones at 200%/$200+. The key to winning against these stickies is to bet big. After winning a few you can go back to betting small. Personally I'll stick to regular 100%, < 20x WR.

El Scorcho · 11-26-04, 06:10 PM

yeah, I dont like the sticky bonus concept myself.

moorehed · 11-26-04, 06:29 PM

golden riviera looks like they have a similar 200$ deposit bonus with 15x playthrough?

moorehed · 12-01-04, 11:45 AM

got my cashouts last night

El Scorcho · 12-01-04, 01:55 PM

Keep in mind that Golden Riviera is on the Prima Network. Which means that if you get a bonus at one of the casinos on the network, you can't get bonuses on any other Casino on the prima network.

Do a google search for the Prima Network site to see which casinos are part of the network.

moorehed · 12-01-04, 02:03 PM

El, unless they have changed policies, or their "casino" policy is different than their poker policy.

I have gotten poker bonuses @ Gaming Club, Royal Vegas, and one or two other prima sites. They never cared if i was a member of others as they are all independantly owned, and even though they are on a "network" they want you playing on THEIR software so they can get the $.

11-25-04, 12:27 PM	#55
actyper DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Toronto Canada! Posts: 1,714	Yeah it has been confirmed that craps does count toward WR. I'm assuming as long as you don't only play the pass line. If you plan on playing Reef, play it on tues Nov 30. BJ Treasure Hunt will net you an extra $25. Check the players club section for more info. __________________ DVD Talk GOLD Trader Bloggg

11-26-04, 01:42 AM	#57
moorehed DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: on the mountain Posts: 7,816	these guys are on a network of sites, all using the same software. i'm sure there are others offering the same promotion. someone less lazy than me find them and report back. hahah. __________________ moorehed ~ it's a lifestyle

11-26-04, 02:23 PM	#64
actyper DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Toronto Canada! Posts: 1,714	I have the feeling Tropez is a "sticky bonus" Deposit $50 get $50 Free - You play with $100 The word "play" IMO could mean that its a sticky. __________________ DVD Talk GOLD Trader Bloggg

11-26-04, 02:34 PM	#65
moorehed DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: on the mountain Posts: 7,816	so its a bonus you can play with, but can't cash out? if you deposited 50, got 50 sticky, then lost 50... would you have lost your 50 or their 50? __________________ moorehed ~ it's a lifestyle

11-26-04, 03:37 PM	#66
actyper DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Toronto Canada! Posts: 1,714	If its a sticky, you lost their $50. __________________ DVD Talk GOLD Trader Bloggg

11-25-04, 01:16 AM	#51
El Scorcho DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: NOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM Posts: 39,182	Closed out at $442.

11-25-04, 01:34 AM	#53
El Scorcho DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: NOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM Posts: 39,182	Just got off the phone with them. I asked if I was eligible to cash out now and was wondering about the Craps thing. I said the site said it isn't eligible but the guy immediately cut me off and said "trust me, it is.."

11-25-04, 01:38 AM	#54
El Scorcho DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: NOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM Posts: 39,182	My profits would have been better if some perfect double down situations had gone my way. I was doing the 2-2-3-5-10 betting method, where each win moves you to the next bet and each loss starts you over at $2 bet. Any loss in the streak still ends you with a couple bucks profit. Anyway, I got up to the $10 bet a couple times. On two of those I had 11 vs. dealer 6. Doubled and got garbage. And both times the dealer ended up with 20.

11-25-04, 11:13 PM	#56
mgbfan DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,594	Cool - just peeked in my Reef Club account and they gave me a $10 bonus just for nothing.

11-26-04, 02:34 AM	#58
El Scorcho DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: NOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM Posts: 39,182	haha yeah these guys also had the nice bonus for pacific poker too

11-26-04, 02:40 AM	#59
El Scorcho DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: NOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM Posts: 39,182	ok, just found this one: http://www.casinotropez.com/bonus.html#100free To receive your 100% free play bonus up to $100, you need to make your first single deposit into your account and you will receive this play bonus instantly! For example: Deposit $50 get $50 Free - You play with $100 Deposit $100 get $100 Free - You play with $200 Please note that the only deposit that is eligible for this play bonus is your first deposit at the Casino. The total maximum play bonus that will be given for your first deposit bonus is $100. This play bonus may not be combined with any other bonus unless otherwise stated. In the interest of fair gaming in order to cash out any amount of money you must wager at least eight (8) times your play bonus plus deposit. If you withdraw before having reached the minimum wagering requirements, your bonus and winnings will be void. For example: Deposit $50 get $50 Free - minimum wager is $800 Deposit $100 get $100 Free - minimum wager is $1600 Bets placed on Baccarat, Craps, Roulette , Sic Bo and all 4-line Video Poker games will be not be counted toward wagering requirements.

11-26-04, 03:30 AM	#60
El Scorcho DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: NOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM Posts: 39,182	Here's a huge list, including bonus requirements http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/p.../vpost?id=1541

11-26-04, 01:40 PM	#62
El Scorcho DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: NOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM Posts: 39,182	Yeah, you also have to be careful of three things: 1) "sticky" bonuses -- you deposit $x, they add $y bonus. Wager n times the bonus + requirement.. and then when you cash out, they subtract $y from your total. 2) Some bonus requirements aren't blackjack-eligible 3) Reef Club Casino and Casino-on-Net only required you bet 10x the BONUS amount. Almost all other casinos require you to bet some sort of mulitple of the (bonus + deposit) amount.

11-26-04, 04:51 PM	#67
mgbfan DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,594	Hmm .... so a sticky bonus is basically just a buffer then? Probably still a +EV situation, but ... hardly exciting at that level. A question comes to mind regarding this kind of bonus - what does the playthrough lock? Your deposit money? If I deposit $50, get the $50 sticky bonus, play for awhile and go in the tank, is the deposit withdrawable or is it locked in? If the deposit is withdrawable anytime, I'd think the proper way to play this sort of bonus would be bet the full amount of the sticky on a single hand of blackjack or pai gow. If you win, you're in business. If you lose, take your deposit money and get out. That would make it enough of a +EV proposition to be worthwhile.

11-26-04, 05:47 PM	#69
moorehed DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: on the mountain Posts: 7,816	mgb, thanks for the heads up on this! __________________ moorehed ~ it's a lifestyle

11-26-04, 06:00 PM	#70
actyper DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Toronto Canada! Posts: 1,714	There are much better sticky bonuses out there, usually ones at 200%/$200+. The key to winning against these stickies is to bet big. After winning a few you can go back to betting small. Personally I'll stick to regular 100%, < 20x WR. __________________ DVD Talk GOLD Trader Bloggg

11-26-04, 06:10 PM	#71
El Scorcho DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: NOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM Posts: 39,182	yeah, I dont like the sticky bonus concept myself.

11-26-04, 06:29 PM	#72
moorehed DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: on the mountain Posts: 7,816	golden riviera looks like they have a similar 200$ deposit bonus with 15x playthrough? __________________ moorehed ~ it's a lifestyle

12-01-04, 11:45 AM	#73
moorehed DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: on the mountain Posts: 7,816	got my cashouts last night __________________ moorehed ~ it's a lifestyle

12-01-04, 01:55 PM	#74
El Scorcho DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: NOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM Posts: 39,182	Keep in mind that Golden Riviera is on the Prima Network. Which means that if you get a bonus at one of the casinos on the network, you can't get bonuses on any other Casino on the prima network. Do a google search for the Prima Network site to see which casinos are part of the network.

12-01-04, 02:03 PM	#75
moorehed DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: on the mountain Posts: 7,816	El, unless they have changed policies, or their "casino" policy is different than their poker policy. I have gotten poker bonuses @ Gaming Club, Royal Vegas, and one or two other prima sites. They never cared if i was a member of others as they are all independantly owned, and even though they are on a "network" they want you playing on THEIR software so they can get the $. __________________ moorehed ~ it's a lifestyle