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Old 05-08-17, 03:09 PM   #51
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Looks like the easiest way through this is to call in sick, so that's what I'll do. However, this is the sort of thing I can only do ONCE- I'm really hoping the interview goes great and I get the job, but if I don't get it I'll keep applying for other state jobs that could have me also having to go out of town to interview for. How should I handle getting out of work for example if I have to interview somewhere in June or July? Calling in sick again might be a bit suspicious.
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Super suspicious. No one has ever called in sick twice!
Yeah, you really think calling in sick again a month or two from now is suspicious?
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Old 05-10-17, 12:04 AM   #52
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Your job doesn't give a shit about you as a person and views you as replaceable labor that can be filled by countless numbers of workers. Don't feel like you owe them shit as they don't genuinely care for you. You make them profit and they profit from your labor. That's the reality of it.
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Old 05-10-17, 12:19 PM   #53
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Re: Getting out of work to interview for another job

I've had some job interviews that I used sick days to attend. If you really want to go and if you really want the job, you'll find a way. This may not be possible depending on where your interview is, but I try to cover my butt just in case by going to the doctor or scheduling a dentist appointment the same day. That way I havea note if asked.
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This may not be possible depending on where your interview is, but I try to cover my butt just in case by going to the doctor or scheduling a dentist appointment the same day. That way I have a note if asked.
None of that is necessary though. I can't ask someone who calls out sick for a doctor's note. Most companies can ask if you take more than two days off in a row but that's it. 99% of the time when someone is truly sick they don't go to the doctor.
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Old 05-10-17, 02:29 PM   #55
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None of that is necessary though. I can't ask someone who calls out sick for a doctor's note. Most companies can ask if you take more than two days off in a row but that's it. 99% of the time when someone is truly sick they don't go to the doctor.
It depends on where you work. My company leaves it to the manager to decide when or if to ask for a note, aside from a situation where you miss several days in a row (I think our formal policy is after three consecutive sick days).

My director has said she's far more likely to ask for a note if a sick day comes on a Friday, Monday, after a holiday or after a vacation. I was basically told she'll automatically ask for a note if you're "sick" right after a three-day weekend.

Just know your company's policy.
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Re: Getting out of work to interview for another job

I was curious, so I decided to look in my company's policies and procedures manual. It states that all employees must notify the supervisor as early as possible with explanation for absence. It later states any absence may require a doctor's statement in writing to be given to the supervisor before returning to work or sick leave will not be allowed.
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I was curious, so I decided to look in my company's policies and procedures manual. It states that all employees must notify the supervisor as early as possible with explanation for absence. It later states any absence may require a doctor's statement in writing to be given to the supervisor before returning to work or sick leave will not be allowed.
There is no chance that is enforceable or would hold up if you fought it. If I'm stuck at home in bed with a cold and taking cold medicine I should not be driving. If I have a stomach flu I am not driving to a doctor. These are both examples where they could be held liable if something happened because they were forcing me to go to the doctor's when I shouldn't be driving and should be in bed getting better.
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There is no chance that is enforceable or would hold up if you fought it. If I'm stuck at home in bed with a cold and taking cold medicine I should not be driving. If I have a stomach flu I am not driving to a doctor. These are both examples where they could be held liable if something happened because they were forcing me to go to the doctor's when I shouldn't be driving and should be in bed getting better.
If you have a stomach flu, which would likely be contagious, why can't an employer require a doctor's note that says the employee can resume normal duties? I can also see where liability could go the other way if a bunch of people wind up getting sick.

I work for the type of place that gets all policies reviewed by attorneys. My bet is the company is covered.
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Old 05-10-17, 06:41 PM   #59
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If you have a stomach flu, which would likely be contagious, why can't an employer require a doctor's note that says the employee can resume normal duties? I can also see where liability could go the other way if a bunch of people wind up getting sick.

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They have those things in place for when people miss three days of work or more. Not if you miss one day of work. If someone misses one day of work there is no way a company can force them to bring a doctors note with any real penalty. People go into work sick all the time because they don't want to miss work and get other people sick. There is no liability there.
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Old 05-11-17, 11:37 AM   #60
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They have those things in place for when people miss three days of work or more. Not if you miss one day of work. If someone misses one day of work there is no way a company can force them to bring a doctors note with any real penalty. People go into work sick all the time because they don't want to miss work and get other people sick. There is no liability there.
Well, I've seen managers here force sick employees to leave rather than stay at work and get others sick. I realize my attempt at putting liability was far fetched, but I also don't see a liability issue in your scenarios. You can't drive to the doctor? Call a friend, taxi, uber.

While it's not routine to request a note from one absence, it's policy that it can be requested. I would more expect the request after one absence if it was part of a pattern. That is probably why it's worded the way it is, so someone wouldn't take advantage of a two or three day rule.
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Re: Getting out of work to interview for another job

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Yeah, you really think calling in sick again a month or two from now is suspicious?
Yes, I do. Normally I call in sick once per YEAR at the most. Someone told me to make up a "family emergency" though if I have to do this again soon, but if it looks like I'll actually get the job I'll just come clean about it. I would NEVER falsely call in sick to a job I cared about, of course I wouldn't think about leaving one I cared about either- at least without giving the proper notice and all that.
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You're still thinking way more about this than your employer probably does when you call in sick.
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Re: Getting out of work to interview for another job

He's thinking way too much about what should be a few little sick days than his employer thinks about him in total.
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Old 05-12-17, 08:49 AM   #64
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Yes, I do. Normally I call in sick once per YEAR at the most. Someone told me to make up a "family emergency" though if I have to do this again soon, but if it looks like I'll actually get the job I'll just come clean about it. I would NEVER falsely call in sick to a job I cared about, of course I wouldn't think about leaving one I cared about either- at least without giving the proper notice and all that.
Taking the job hunt out of the equation, if you were REALLY sick for two days, you would not call in because they would be suspicious..... of what? Or are you one of those assholes that come in when sick and get others sick?

If you're not willing to do whatever to get a new job, just stop the job-hunt and close the thread.
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Old 05-12-17, 08:52 AM   #65
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Yes, I do. Normally I call in sick once per YEAR at the most. Someone told me to make up a "family emergency" though if I have to do this again soon, but if it looks like I'll actually get the job I'll just come clean about it. I would NEVER falsely call in sick to a job I cared about, of course I wouldn't think about leaving one I cared about either- at least without giving the proper notice and all that.
Well, it's not suspicious. So get over it.
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Old 05-12-17, 03:14 PM   #66
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As a manager in the back of my mind I always suspect that when people are calling in sick they are not sick.

As a manager I call in sick when I am not sick.

Call in sick.

My girlfriend just started a new job 5 weeks ago. She is sick and called in sick the last 2 days.

Call in sick.
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Yes, I do. Normally I call in sick once per YEAR at the most. Someone told me to make up a "family emergency" though if I have to do this again soon, but if it looks like I'll actually get the job I'll just come clean about it. I would NEVER falsely call in sick to a job I cared about, of course I wouldn't think about leaving one I cared about either- at least without giving the proper notice and all that.
How is lying by calling it a "family emergency" any better than lying by calling out sick? It's actually worse since you'll have to at least come up with a vague story when making small talk around the office when you return. A family emergency is a lot more interesting, thus getting more "is everything alright?" questions from co-workers than calling in sick, in which no one gives a shit. At MOST you'd get a "how are you feeling?" from co-workers. At best, and most likely, no one will say shit to you.
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My girlfriend just started a new job 5 weeks ago. She is sick and called in sick the last 2 days.
Suspicious as fuck! Are you sure she's not a terrorist?
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So, Alan...whatever happened with this? It's been three weeks; surely you've had the interview by now.
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It's easier to avoid an occurance in a job you don't want than try for a better job.
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Don't tell your current job you are interviewing for another job.
You could say you have an out-of-town emergency for a personal reason. That's not lying.

But yeah...did you go to the interview?
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Suspicious as fuck! Are you sure she's not a terrorist?
She' having an affair. I mean, uh, she's interviewing potential candidates for an anticipated open position.

It was pointed out earlier, but I think there is a key piece of information many posters are overlooking: the OP's current employer is a TEMP AGENCY. That doesn't make them any less of an employer, but it certain changes the expectations of the employment relationship. I still think the OP should have a clear conscience in telling his employer he has an interview and needs the day off. Should he expect to get paid? Probably not, depending on their comp time policy.

So ... Devil's Advocate ... If taking the day off honestly means no consequences but also no pay while lying about being sick means getting paid for the day, is it stealing to call in sick?
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Thanks Debbie Downer...
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Thanks Debbie Downer...
Just to make it worse ... That is her porn name.
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