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Old 11-03-09, 03:10 PM   #1
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Police officer murdered; am I out of line?

A few days ago, a cop in Seattle was shot and killed by a motorist.

The immediate reaction from the police department was to thoroughly search every dashboard camera from officers who were on patrol around the time of the killing, to see if a vehicle matching the description of the suspect could be spotted.

Am I out of line for being pissed that the same response isn't given when equally innocent people are killed, especially when it comes to children?

I've never understood the mind frame of a cop's death being more sacred than anyone else, and personally in my book, someone willing to kill a random person is no less dangerous than someone willing to kill a cop.
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Old 11-03-09, 03:13 PM   #2
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Old 11-03-09, 03:15 PM   #3
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Re: Police officer murdered; am I out of line?

Wouldn't the murdered officer's dashboard cam have recorded it?
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Old 11-03-09, 03:20 PM   #4
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Re: Police officer murdered; am I out of line?

It isn't that it's more sacred, but they're the ones who patrol the streets. If they want to put more effort in for one of their own, who can stop them? John Q. Public? Ha.
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Old 11-03-09, 03:22 PM   #5
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Wouldn't the murdered officer's dashboard cam have recorded it?
The car backed up and turned around so as not to be seen by the cam.
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Old 11-03-09, 03:27 PM   #6
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Am I out of line for being pissed that the same response isn't given when equally innocent people are killed, especially when it comes to children?
You can question it, but being pissed about it? Were you part of the anti police rally a few wks ago? You feel any anger at the animals that committed the crime?

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Old 11-03-09, 03:30 PM   #7
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The car backed up and turned around so as not to be seen by the cam.
I guess I'm confused. This wasn't a traffic stop? The cop was shot from behind?
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Old 11-03-09, 03:31 PM   #8
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Re: Police officer murdered; am I out of line?

Pissed may be a strong word, but I'd be willing to bet if the killer decided to plug a kid instead of a cop, the story would be "we're doing our best, but have little to go on."

I'm not happy the cop got killed and I'm glad they have a person in custody that may be the killer.
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Old 11-03-09, 03:32 PM   #9
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I guess I'm confused. This wasn't a traffic stop? The cop was shot from behind?
The cop was on a traffic stop with a trainee and the guy rolled up alongside him and shot the lead officer and wounded the trainee, who was able to return fire.
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Old 11-03-09, 03:36 PM   #10
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The cop was on a traffic stop with a trainee and the guy rolled up alongside him and shot the lead officer and wounded the trainee, who was able to return fire.
Ah. So he had another car pulled off to the side and this other person randomly(?) shot him from alongside. Damn.
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Old 11-03-09, 03:37 PM   #11
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You can question it, but being pissed about it? Were you part of the anti police rally a few wks ago? You feel any anger at the animals that committed the crime?
I think it's clear the OP feels anger toward the animals that would commit any murder, whether it was a police officer or not. I certainly see the point the OP is making. Would these same measures be taken for just any killing? I don't know, but I don't think a police officer's life should automatically be placed higher than someone else's life. And that's not meant to be a knock against police officers or show a lack of appreciation for what they do.

Oops, the OP already answered while I was typing.
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Old 11-03-09, 03:38 PM   #12
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Both were "very well-planned and targeted attacks," said police spokesman Sean Whitcomb.
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Old 11-03-09, 03:39 PM   #13
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Re: Police officer murdered; am I out of line?

Look at it this way: there's a missing person and a volunteer search party is being organized. Aren't you more likely to volunteer if the missing person is a co-worker and/or friend of yours?
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Old 11-03-09, 03:39 PM   #14
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Look at it this way: there's a missing person and a volunteer search party is being organized. Aren't you more likely to volunteer if the missing person is a co-worker and/or friend of yours?
And I see that point as well, but I'm sure it doesn't come as much comfort for victims' families.
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Old 11-03-09, 03:40 PM   #15
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Re: Police officer murdered; am I out of line?

If someone is attacking officers for being officers, I think it makes sense to put more effort into tracking them down.
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Old 11-03-09, 03:40 PM   #16
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Pissed may be a strong word, but I'd be willing to bet if the killer decided to plug a kid instead of a cop, the story would be "we're doing our best, but have little to go on."

I'm not happy the cop got killed and I'm glad they have a person in custody that may be the killer.
I read that they questioned someone but I'm not seeing anything else... is this breaking?

Well it seems to me whenever a child is killed or even missing all available resources are on it. Are the SP perfect, no... but imo that's no reason to question the significance of an officer being murdered (it's been 15 yrs after all).
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And I see that point as well, but I'm sure it doesn't come as much comfort for victims' families.
Imaginary victims who have been victimized by imaginary crimes that the police aren't investigating hard enough. Unless somebody has a concrete example of a murder victim that was recently neglected in Seattle.
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Old 11-03-09, 03:45 PM   #18
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I think everyone has a certain group of people whose actions cause one to detest them. People then make it a priority to go after them, whether it be those who drink and drive, molest children or refrain from washing their hands after using the restroom. . For police officers, this crime is one that inspires the greatest amount of rage, and it's natural.
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Old 11-03-09, 03:46 PM   #19
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maybe the news doesn't report it, but i bet they do this in every murder investigation. it's not like the method for catching a cop killer is different for any other killer.

you look under every stone until you get any clue and exploit it
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I read that they questioned someone but I'm not seeing anything else... is this breaking?

Well it seems to me whenever a child is killed or even missing all available resources are on it. Are the SP perfect, no... but imo that's no reason to question the significance of an officer being murdered (it's been 15 yrs after all).
They are being pretty vague about it, but they have a guy held on bail for charges of obstruction.
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Imaginary victims who have been victimized by imaginary crimes that the police aren't investigating hard enough. Unless somebody has a concrete example of a murder victim that was recently neglected in Seattle.
I was speaking in general terms, not really referring to Seattle. So do you think that every murder case receives the same care and attention from the entire police force, even when compared to when a cop is killed?
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Oh damn! How dare they do investigative work!

They checked video they had in the area to look for a lead. I've checked video that was taken in a certain area to look for a lead on a fucking burglary of a vehicle. Damn straight it's done on murders. You seemed to have immediately jumped to a conclusion that it's NOT done on any other murders.

Yes, you're out of line. This is a reach even for the usual anti-police sentiment, and it's pretty damn distasteful to use the death of an officer to further some agenda.
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Look at it this way: there's a missing person and a volunteer search party is being organized. Aren't you more likely to volunteer if the missing person is a co-worker and/or friend of yours?
So you assume every cop on the force knew the cop that got shot and that's why they are putting in extra hours to find a scrap of evidence?
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Oh damn! How dare they do investigative work!

They checked video they had in the area to look for a lead. I've checked video that was taken in a certain area to look for a lead on a fucking burglary of a vehicle. Damn straight it's done on murders. You seemed to have immediately jumped to a conclusion that it's NOT done on any other murders.

Yes, you're out of line. This is a reach even for the usual anti-police sentiment, and it's pretty damn distasteful to use the death of an officer to further some agenda.
Why does everything have to be attributed to an anti-police agenda? The perception has always been -- and maybe I'm wrong -- that a police officer's death tends to galvanize more officers, sometimes even results in a larger team actively investigating the case. If that's not true, educate us on how it really is and tone down the anger. Not everyone is anti-cop. You can even be critical of police without being anti-cop.
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God forbid a motorcycle cop gets into an accident. One scraped ankle and several dozen cop cars are there blocking traffic, making life miserable for everyone and basically not doing any cop-like activities whatsoever (patrolling, stopping crime, patronizing, annoying, etc.).
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