Police officer murdered; am I out of line? - Page 2

Franchot · 11-03-09, 04:05 PM

I also think you are out of line. Police are hired to "Protect and Serve." They are the first line of defense against criminals and if that line is broken and lessened, then your ass is going to be in greater danger. Got to keep our defenses strong against the enemy.

Artman · 11-03-09, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy

God forbid a motorcycle cop gets into an accident. One scraped ankle and several dozen cop cars are there blocking traffic, making life miserable for everyone and basically not doing any cop-like activities whatsoever (patrolling, stopping crime, patronizing, annoying, etc.).

Mind if I ask what you do for a living?

Groucho · 11-03-09, 04:11 PM

Based on the usual attitude towards cops in this forum, I'm surprised this thread isn't on page 15 filled with praise and adoration towards the killer.

Mordred · 11-03-09, 04:11 PM

Wouldn't you take it personally and maybe do everything you could if someone was trying to kill you? I think that would be natural for everyone, regardless of job or profession.

I'm also not implying that cops general slack off or don't care about crimes unless they're the target either.

Hokeyboy · 11-03-09, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Artman

Mind if I ask what you do for a living?

Mind if I ask what that has to do with a damn thing?

Mordred · 11-03-09, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Groucho

Based on the usual attitude towards cops in this forum, I'm surprised this thread isn't on page 15 filled with praise and adoration towards the killer.

Somebody notify Dr Mabuse!

Hokeyboy · 11-03-09, 04:15 PM

If it wasn't a traffic stop, it was probably a targetted killing. It's possible that the cop was involved in illegal/illicit activity.

About a year ago here in Broward County, an off-duty, non-uniformed cop was driving with his 12 year old daughter (unmarked car) and got involved in a road rage incident (someone cut off someone else). He got out of his car, got in the civilian's grill, yelling and screaming, turned around to leave, and was promptly shot in the head.

Before I continue, this was a horrific act and I am not in any way condoning the murder of anyone, police or otherwise.

IMMEDIATELY local Sherrif's office was screaming how he was killed "in the line of duty" and diverted all resources imaginable to find the "cop killer".

If this were you or I shot in the head, I guarantee you the resources spent would be fraction of this response, at BEST.

Red Dog · 11-03-09, 04:16 PM

Murdered cops still come in 2nd to missing white girls ages 5-25.

Artman · 11-03-09, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy

Mind if I ask what that has to do with a damn thing?

Not at all. Your post seemed to indicate some pretty big disdain for police officers (perhaps authority in general). Given that I was wondering what your contribution to our society is.

antennaball · 11-03-09, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy

If it wasn't a traffic stop, it was probably a targetted killing. It's possible that the cop was involved in illegal/illicit activity.

I give up.

Boba Fett · 11-03-09, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy

If it wasn't a traffic stop, it was probably a targetted killing. It's possible that the cop was involved in illegal/illicit activity.

CaptainMarvel · 11-03-09, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy

If it wasn't a traffic stop, it was probably a targetted killing. It's possible that the cop was involved in illegal/illicit activity.

It's also possible that this was secretly an alien abduction gone awry.

Do you have any basis for this cretinous sort of speculation, other than paranoid delusions about police?

Hokeyboy · 11-03-09, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Artman

Not at all. Your post seemed to indicate some pretty big disdain for police officers (perhaps authority in general). Given that I was wondering what your contribution to our society is.

What my contribution is for society? I work for a living, pay my taxes, am a "model citizen" (absolutely clean criminal record), volunteer, and am actively involved in my community.

A police officer contributes no more than a sanitation worker. Their lives are no more sacred than anyone else's.

Meglos · 11-03-09, 04:27 PM

Venusian · 11-03-09, 04:27 PM

Is anyone saying their lives are more sacred than anyone else's?

Hokeyboy · 11-03-09, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Venusian

Is anyone saying their lives are more sacred than anyone else's?

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Originally Posted by Boba Fett

Am I out of line for being pissed that the same response isn't given when equally innocent people are killed, especially when it comes to children?

I've never understood the mind frame of a cop's death being more sacred than anyone else, and personally in my book, someone willing to kill a random person is no less dangerous than someone willing to kill a cop.

clckworang · 11-03-09, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Venusian

Is anyone saying their lives are more sacred than anyone else's?

If more resources are devoted to solving a police officer's murder, then I can see where someone would say that's at least indirectly saying a police officer's life is more sacred.

Boba Fett · 11-03-09, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Venusian

Is anyone saying their lives are more sacred than anyone else's?

I did since the media always treats it like it's the worst kind of murder and I have encountered people that do believe a cop being killed is more serious than any other death.

Hokeyboy · 11-03-09, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainMarvel

Do you have any basis for this cretinous sort of speculation, other than paranoid delusions about police?

"Cretinous sort of speculation"... I kind of like the ring to that. Then again, I sorta choose to step out of the circle instead of volunteering to be the Blue Wall pivot man. In my opinion, your average cop is corrupt and morally deficient until proven otherwise.

Just my opinion. Am I boggin ya? Didna mean to bog ya.

Groucho · 11-03-09, 04:34 PM

I personally think the cops should hold back a bit on this investigation, maybe even ignore leads and evidence -- just so there's no chance they'll be accused of favoritism.

Artman · 11-03-09, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy

A police officer contributes no more than a sanitation worker. Their lives are no more sacred than anyone else's.

Their lives aren't, I think most would agree their contributions are.

Red Dog · 11-03-09, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Boba Fett

I did since the media always treats it like it's the worst kind of murder

The law does that too (first degree murder in many jurisdictions is triggered for murdering a law enforcement officer), but there are plausible arguments for why the law is set up that way.

CaptainMarvel · 11-03-09, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy

A police officer contributes no more than a sanitation worker. Their lives are no more sacred than anyone else's.

That's your opinion. That's not the law in most (if not all states), and it's not the law in the federal government. In every jurisdiction I know, it's a more serious crime to kill a government servant in the performance of their duty.

If you can't get over your distaste for police long enough to realize that, yes, it IS more serious for somebody to murder a police officer, or a judge, or a prosecutor in the line of duty, that's fine, but the vast majority of legislators seem to disagree with you.

I guarantee you that if a judge had been blown up for doing his job, or a prosecutor gunned down, the same efforts would be made. Society doesn't work at all when you let people start murdering government servants for the performance of their job. It's not just police... lots of government employees, like mail carriers and teachers, enjoy additional protections.

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"Cretinous sort of speculation"... I kind of like the ring to that. Then again, I sorta choose to step out of the circle instead of volunteering to be the Blue Wall pivot man. In my opinion, your average cop is corrupt and morally deficient until proven otherwise.

I understand from your past postings that our secret police society has banded together to pull you over multiple times FOR NO REASON AT ALL© and THROUGH NO FAULT OF YOUR OWN©, so that probably colors your viewpoint past all reason. Poor, poor victim.

starman9000 · 11-03-09, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Groucho

I personally think the cops should hold back a bit on this investigation, maybe even ignore leads and evidence -- just so there's no chance they'll be accused of favoritism.

Bandoman · 11-03-09, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy

In my opinion, your average cop is corrupt and morally deficient until proven otherwise.

If that kind of presumption was made about any other group, I suspect you'd scream discrimination.

11-03-09, 04:05 PM	#26
Franchot DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Signal Hill, CA Posts: 1,973	Re: Police officer murdered; am I out of line? I also think you are out of line. Police are hired to "Protect and Serve." They are the first line of defense against criminals and if that line is broken and lessened, then your ass is going to be in greater danger. Got to keep our defenses strong against the enemy.

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Groucho DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 46,698	Re: Police officer murdered; am I out of line? Based on the usual attitude towards cops in this forum, I'm surprised this thread isn't on page 15 filled with praise and adoration towards the killer.

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Hokeyboy DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 6,106	Re: Police officer murdered; am I out of line? If it wasn't a traffic stop, it was probably a targetted killing. It's possible that the cop was involved in illegal/illicit activity. About a year ago here in Broward County, an off-duty, non-uniformed cop was driving with his 12 year old daughter (unmarked car) and got involved in a road rage incident (someone cut off someone else). He got out of his car, got in the civilian's grill, yelling and screaming, turned around to leave, and was promptly shot in the head. Before I continue, this was a horrific act and I am not in any way condoning the murder of anyone, police or otherwise. IMMEDIATELY local Sherrif's office was screaming how he was killed "in the line of duty" and diverted all resources imaginable to find the "cop killer". If this were you or I shot in the head, I guarantee you the resources spent would be fraction of this response, at BEST. __________________ This guy of all people. Hokeyboy, one of the most ignorant, thoughtless posters I've seen on here. I've seen your act and it isn't good. -- bootsy Hokeyboy is like, the biggest douche of the year! -- gglass4269 He's probably a very well paid anticop douche, thank you very much. -- CaptainMarvel Last edited by Hokeyboy; 11-03-09 at 04:19 PM.

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Groucho DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 46,698	Re: Police officer murdered; am I out of line? I personally think the cops should hold back a bit on this investigation, maybe even ignore leads and evidence -- just so there's no chance they'll be accused of favoritism.