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Old 05-30-09, 12:34 PM   #26
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Re: Oklahoma Highway Patrolman fights with and threatens to arrests Paramedic

I want to know the whole story..

does not add up.
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Old 05-30-09, 01:14 PM   #27
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I would say the cop looses when he states someone is under arrest, chokes them, then just lets em go.
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Old 05-30-09, 02:50 PM   #28
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Let's put the blame where it truly belongs. Those EMT guys had it coming. Their shirts were red, which is the color of anger, which must have scared the cops and inflamed the situation.
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Old 05-30-09, 02:57 PM   #29
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Let's put the blame where it truly belongs. Those EMT guys had it coming. Their shirts were red, which is the color of anger, which must have scared the cops and inflamed the situation.
If he's a red shirt, he's lucky to be alive at all
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Old 05-30-09, 06:46 PM   #30
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The words honest and cops used together are fast becoming oxymorons


I'm afraid I don't get a national headline every time I go out there, work 12 hours, help everyone I come in contact with to the best of my ability, and go home.

Maybe if those things made for good news stories, people would stop with the ridiculous sweeping generalizations.
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Old 05-30-09, 07:44 PM   #31
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I'm afraid I don't get a national headline every time I go out there, work 12 hours, help everyone I come in contact with to the best of my ability, and go home.

Maybe if those things made for good news stories, people would stop with the ridiculous sweeping generalizations.
I used to work at a police department. I know the shit they have to deal with day in and day out, and I think they do a good job. I wouldn't do it.
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Old 05-30-09, 07:47 PM   #32
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I'm afraid I don't get a national headline every time I go out there, work 12 hours, help everyone I come in contact with to the best of my ability, and go home.

Maybe if those things made for good news stories, people would stop with the ridiculous sweeping generalizations.
A-fucking-men. Just because there are some idiots out there with badges doesn't make all police officers morons.

The next thing you know, people will be disparaging lawyers.
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Old 05-30-09, 09:16 PM   #33
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I'm afraid I don't get a national headline every time I go out there, work 12 hours, help everyone I come in contact with to the best of my ability, and go home.

Maybe if those things made for good news stories, people would stop with the ridiculous sweeping generalizations.
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Old 05-30-09, 10:10 PM   #34
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I'm afraid I don't get a national headline every time I go out there, work 12 hours, help everyone I come in contact with to the best of my ability, and go home.

Maybe if those things made for good news stories, people would stop with the ridiculous sweeping generalizations.
i agree that most cops are good, but, unfortunately, as is the case with just about most items on the news, it has to be somewhat out of the ordinary, weird, shocking, or something else in order to make news headlines.
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Old 05-30-09, 11:20 PM   #35
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I want to know the whole story..

does not add up.


There is going to be a lot more to this story and I'm not taking sides till we do.
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Old 05-31-09, 12:01 AM   #36
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"To Patronize and Annoy"
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Old 05-31-09, 06:34 AM   #37
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Is that the counter-slogan for some of the asshat members of the general public who seem to think that because they see 10, 20, or even 50 ridiculous Youtube videos or news stories a year that they can somehow reasonably infer that all of the 600,000 to 800,000 police in the US are somehow incompetent or corrupt?
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Old 05-31-09, 09:07 AM   #38
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Is that the counter-slogan for some of the asshat members of the general public who seem to think that because they see 10, 20, or even 50 ridiculous Youtube videos or news stories a year that they can somehow reasonably infer that all of the 600,000 to 800,000 police in the US are somehow incompetent or corrupt?
Here's one to grow on kid: there was antipathy towards police LONG before YouTube was a glint in some shitstain's eye. I'm pushing 40 and am a law-abiding citizen, no criminal record, I don't dress or act like a douchebag, live responsibly and respectfully, and mind my own business. In nearly 4 decades of life, almost every interaction I've had with police has been atrocious. The handful that I have known personally have turned out to be paradigms of repulsive human beings.

I don't need no stinking YouTube video to color my opinion on police in general (or on anything, for that matter).

So yeah: I hope the little piggie gets ruthlessly ass-pounded in prison. Fuck him.
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Old 05-31-09, 10:14 AM   #39
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Here's one to grow on kid: there was antipathy towards police LONG before YouTube was a glint in some shitstain's eye. I'm pushing 40 and am a law-abiding citizen, no criminal record, I don't dress or act like a douchebag, live responsibly and respectfully, and mind my own business. In nearly 4 decades of life, almost every interaction I've had with police has been atrocious. The handful that I have known personally have turned out to be paradigms of repulsive human beings.

I don't need no stinking YouTube video to color my opinion on police in general (or on anything, for that matter).

So yeah: I hope the little piggie gets ruthlessly ass-pounded in prison. Fuck him.
You may not dress like a douchebag. We apparently aren't always the best authority on interpreting how we act.

Youtube may not have existed, but the media certainly did. They'll always publish the outlier stories about bad police behavior. They have no reason to publish the other 99.99+% of the stories, which would be about proper police conduct, since that's not newsworthy. Some people unfortunately let that color their perception.

In my experience, the people who constantly have bad run ins with every police officer they encounter suffer from some sort of personality or behavioral issue that makes them have bad run ins. Occam's Razor would seem to suggest your bad experiences are a function of you and your attitude and behavior, rather than a function of some sort of systemic dysfunction spread across all the hundreds of thousands of individuals in law enforcement.

I'm 30, but other than that, I would describe my background in much the same way as you. Before I entered law enforcement, I had good and bad run ins with police, but the vast majority were professional. I may not have liked the fact that I had run ins, because nobody likes being told they're doing something wrong, but very rarely did I run across any officers that were jerks, and I never ran across any violating the law. Some people are just petulant and can't stand being made to follow rules.
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Old 05-31-09, 03:42 PM   #40
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There are people on power trips in all positions of authority; it's not like the police have a monopoly on that behavior. When I was unemployed a few months back, for instance, I had the displeasure of talking to a condescending old whorebag about my benefits. Of course, I was polite and answered all questions to the best of my ability, and the situation didn't escalate. When someone else has control over some aspect of your life, even briefly, it's counterproductive to provoke them, despite how much you might want to.
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Old 05-31-09, 04:18 PM   #41
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Here's one to grow on kid: there was antipathy towards police LONG before YouTube was a glint in some shitstain's eye. I'm pushing 40 and am a law-abiding citizen, no criminal record, I don't dress or act like a douchebag, live responsibly and respectfully, and mind my own business. In nearly 4 decades of life, almost every interaction I've had with police has been atrocious. The handful that I have known personally have turned out to be paradigms of repulsive human beings.

I don't need no stinking YouTube video to color my opinion on police in general (or on anything, for that matter).

So yeah: I hope the little piggie gets ruthlessly ass-pounded in prison. Fuck him.
What you describe happening to you is virtually impossible. From what you describe, I'd expect hundreds of thousands of grannies and grampies being locked up for swishing their dentures back and forth or smelling funny.

Don't mean to call it like this, but something is wrong here. Cops don't prey on law-abiding citizens. They prey on out-of-the-ordinary behaviors and actions. Whether it's aggressive driving behavior, aggressive mannerisms on the street, things and/or people who look out of their normal place, and so forth.

You do live in Florida, though.

Maybe you live in a high-crime area? Maybe you live in an area which doesn't necessarily fit with your profile? I have no idea, but you say you're doing nothing wrong, and yet cops don't like you. Something's missing here.
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Old 05-31-09, 04:40 PM   #42
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There are people on power trips in all positions of authority; it's not like the police have a monopoly on that behavior. When I was unemployed a few months back, for instance, I had the displeasure of talking to a condescending old whorebag about my benefits. Of course, I was polite and answered all questions to the best of my ability, and the situation didn't escalate. When someone else has control over some aspect of your life, even briefly, it's counterproductive to provoke them, despite how much you might want to.

I agree with this, and I have respect for many of those in law enforcement, I have friends and family on the force (and some of my family members in blue are some of the worst I have seen) but the biggest problem when there is a bad apple in law enforcement is that they have a badge and gun and can create all kinds of problems/charges that can destroy peoples lives*.


*I am not talking about people that destroyed their own life with their own criminal activities.*
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What you describe happening to you is virtually impossible.
Talk to anyone else slightly darker than the color of milk. I utterly despise anyone who cries racism when it doesn't exist, because when it does happen to people like me and I speak out about it, most tend to roll their eyes and start with the "Here they go again..."
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Don't mean to call it like this, but something is wrong here. Cops don't prey on law-abiding citizens.
100% absolutely NOT true. I know (and knew) cops who would "prey" on whomever they wanted, when they needed to, for any purpose. Innocent or otherwise.
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I grew up in an affluent area of South Miami called Pinecrest, and live in the Plantation/Sunrise area of west Broward. Definitely not high-crime areas by any stretch of the imagination.

I WILL give you an example: I went to college in Boston, so I used to drive my car up from Miami every year. I had a red Mustang convertible with Florida tags, so I knew that I'd virtually have a target painted on my back no matter where I drove North of the Florida/Georgia line. Usually if I did get pulled over, it'd be for speeding or the like, which is fine. (I'm not counting traffic infractions in my antipathy towards police, and I've generally never had a problem there.) I'm talking about the time I was 20 years old and got stopped by New Jersey State Patrol, asked if I had any drugs out the car, pulled me out by my arm, cuffed me, threw me in the back of their cruiser while they went through all my belongings, threw all my clothes, guitars, and all my other stuff all over the street and shoulder, found NOTHING, pulled me out of their car, and threatened me with a littering fine if I didn't pick up everything they discarded on the ground IMMEDIATELY, watched me gather up everything, laughing and guffawing from their car.

And while all this was transpiring, I gave these "officers" absolutely ZERO lip. I was respectful the entire time. I know better than that. I think this pissed them off more than if I had given them attitude.

So don't tell me cops NEVER prey on the innocent, or that it NEVER happens. It's horseshit. I kept my dignity while they tried to humiliate me in retaliation for having the temerity to NOT be a drug runner.
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Jersey State troopers don't have the best reputation.
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If you're world only consisted of YouTube videos of cops...then I'd agree with you. Fortunately, there are thousands of cops nationwide who are not on YouTube who do a rather extraordinary job. And don't get thanked for it other than a pat on the back from their peers.
Yea they're doing an awesome job arresting people for possessing marijuana.
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Yea they're doing an awesome job arresting people for possessing marijuana.
It's almost as if law enforcement enforces the law. The mind reels.

Whether you like drug laws or not, they're relatively serious offenses in most places. The states and the federal government, through our elected representatives, have decided that drug laws are important and have thrown massive amounts of money at enforcement. If you want to see police stop arresting people for marijuana possession, it either needs to be made legal, or it needs to be decriminalized in much the same way as most traffic offenses so we feel we have some room for discretion in the matter.

In my state, first offense possession is a misdemeanor, and second and subsequent offenses are felonies. That's not the state legislature telling me "slap them on the wrist and let them go."
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I hope the trooper is fired.
but not before having his head kicked in by an angry mob and no one calling an ambulence to aid him.
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but not before having his head kicked in by an angry mob and no one calling an ambulence to aid him.
PLEASE someone put this on Pay-Per-View!
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Yea they're doing an awesome job arresting people for possessing marijuana.
Complain to capitol hill. People are arrested for marijuana because it's against the law, not because cops are on a vendetta against it.
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