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[pedagogue]

Originally Posted by VinVega

Well, let's put it this way: Geoff owns his own island now.

Nah, he just bought into an exclusive community.

[lotsofdvds]

Originally Posted by Venusian

They don't want a forum like we had before.

We don't want a forum like the one we had before either. We want one like the one before that.

[10-7]

Originally Posted by lotsofdvds

The racy R rated covers would come up on almost any page, at random. At any time during random surfing through DVD Talk you could be confronted by a NSFW image. That's what people wanted changed.

I've noticed a definite change in the "theme" of the covers shown at the top of the page today.

[WallyOPD]

Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet

I think we all suspected it, but nice to see it confirmed.

Didn't they confirm from the very beginning that they didn't want an Adult Talk here anymore?

[nemein]

And besides, I think this entire mess is being made far more complicated than it needs to be. If we aren't going to have an Adult board where nudity is allowed, that's fine. A blanket rule of NO NUDITY would cover that base. Then, when people want to post more risqué photos (like simple bikini shots, photos of celebs, and funny pictures) or talk about more adult themed topics, simply have another rule where the topic creator must put NSFW in the topic title. Then, in threads that the topic creator didn't put that in the title, people who respond must put NSFW in bold then put whatever it is that applies in spoiler tags.

Um... where I have seen this before... that's right, those are the rules as outlined.

1) All uncensored words are allowed in threads. Words and abbreviations for those words that you wouldn't say to your grandmother are not allowed in titles. Stories and jokes are ok, as long as they don't get into explicit sexual detail (or detail extremely perverted, harmful acts). Individual posts may be removed if deemed to be too tasteless or offensive. <<--- "more adult themed topics"

2) No threads of an explicit sexual nature.

3) No nude or explicit, sexually-suggestive pictures, no links to nude pictures, no links to sites primarily having a sexual theme (excluding XCritic.com in general, however don't link to specific threads, forums, or anything else there). <<-- "blanket NO NUDITY"

4) No male or female appreciation threads based primarily on pictures of them.

5) No pictures that a member could reasonably be called on to explain if overseen in the office by a co-worker or boss, or in the home by a spouse. We're not assuming that the member works in the Vatican nor, on the other extreme, are we assuming the member is married to a pornstar. If the picture is "iffy", link it with a NSFW notation. <<-- "more risqué photos"

6) These rules are not exhaustive. This site reserves the right to change the aforementioned rules at any time without warning or notice. It is the responsibility of the forum member to check this page on a regular basis for any revisions in these rules before making any posts to the forum.

7) If you're not sure, email or PM a mod.

[X]

Originally Posted by nemein

Um... where I have seen this before... that's right, those are the rules as outlined.

Except that we haven't really talked about marking an entire thread NSFW. Perhaps that's something we could discuss with IB.

[nemein]

Originally Posted by X

Except that we haven't really talked about marking an entire thread NSFW. Perhaps that's something we could discuss with IB.

True... then we're back to where we started in '99 The main point I'm trying to get across is I think people are making this far far more complicated than it needs to be. Sure something has changed w/ DVDtalk as a whole in the sense that ALL the topics that could be discussed here previously can't be now. What little has changed about the Other has actually been a codifing of the rules, which are actually "looser" than before since when the Adult Forum was here rule #1 would have been to simply move things to the Adult Forum where as now some topics/posts are going to stay. Is it going to be to the same level that it was before, no, is it really as bad as some people are making it out to be, I don't think so.

For example from the Scarlett Johansson thread someone posted this pic:



Which non of the mods made a comment on, but someone in an attempt to be "funny" posted this...



It all just seems to be getting blown way way out of proportion to what's actually going on...

[BuddhaWake]

come on. you got to find the humor (in a typical otter way) of it.

[nemein]

Originally Posted by BuddhaWake

come on. you got to find the humor (in a typical otter way) of it.

Yes and no... If there wasn't all the other hassle/harassment/misunderstanding/misrepresentation of what's going on then sure I would. Right now I think it is more indicative of people turning molehills into mountains. That's JMO, but again I guess I for one underestimated the amount of "Adult" discussions people wanted. I mean the Other forum was going along great w/o the topics here and the Adult forum was never really a huge traffic draw (from what I recall just looking at # of posts/threads) so why this has become such a huge issue is puzzling.

[MartinBlank]

Originally Posted by nemein

True... then we're back to where we started in '99 The main point I'm trying to get across is I think people are making this far far more complicated than it needs to be. Sure something has changed w/ DVDtalk as a whole in the sense that ALL the topics that could be discussed here previously can't be now. What little has changed about the Other has actually been a codifing of the rules, which are actually "looser" than before since when the Adult Forum was here rule #1 would have been to simply move things to the Adult Forum where as now some topics/posts are going to stay. Is it going to be to the same level that it was before, no, is it really as bad as some people are making it out to be, I don't think so.

For example from the Scarlett Johansson thread someone posted this pic:



Which non of the mods made a comment on, but someone in an attempt to be "funny" posted this...



It all just seems to be getting blown way way out of proportion to what's actually going on...

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.ph...3&postcount=11

[nemein]

Originally Posted by MartinBlank

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.ph...3&postcount=11

What's your point? This is a more risque picture and therefore the link w/ annotation is more appropriate. The fact remains it is still here.

[VinVega]

Originally Posted by BuddhaWake

come on. you got to find the humor (in a typical otter way) of it.

It's funny, but it's hard to keep a good sense of humor when you're getting railed on hardcore by some posters. We've had exhaustive conversations amongst the mods/admins about trying to do the right thing and the best job we can given the circumstances. I've been posting here for almost 8 years and it's hard for me to remember a time when people were so angry over anything, let alone over something that will have little impact on the otter forum in general.

[lotsofdvds]

Originally Posted by VinVega

It's funny, but it's hard to keep a good sense of humor when you're getting railed on hardcore by some posters. We've had exhaustive conversations amongst the mods/admins about trying to do the right thing and the best job we can given the circumstances. I've been posting here for almost 8 years and it's hard for me to remember a time when people were so angry over anything, let alone over something that will have little impact on the otter forum in general.

I think another misconception is that people are upset about what they can or cannot post in the Other Forum. This isn't about the Other Forum exclusively, it's about the overall changes to DVDTalk. We just are talking about it IN the Other Forum, where we should be.

[nemein]

We just are talking about it IN the Other Forum, where we should be.

Actually in that sense it should be in the Feedback Forum This is just where the conversation ended up due to the rules post being here...

[BuddhaWake]

I think lotsofdvds has hit it. is the all around changes that we have seen in the forum period. it seems that is escalating after the sale but I think that has to do with the unknown of what other changes (small or large). We saw it in the adult forum where they let certain individuals promote etc. their wares but in any other forum inside dvdtalk this would not have been allowed. We saw it with the review pictures and the annoying google ads that sometimes are for places selling bootlegs and yet we can't discuss any bootlegs besides is this one or not? or even things that is not bootleging like I like to listen to commentary tracks at work but I can't ask here how to convert the comentaries to mp3. even though I own 0 boots or even gray market dvds. I'm just bringing these up as examples of where there has been confusion/debate/argument before the sale and some of this are still occuring but with the looming future of an IB owned dvdtalk.com.
Just how I don't think Kleinman should have close his own thread and I definately don't agree with his attitude in the last post even though some people were being asses (it is otter after all). Is part of being a family and is also part of how otter is and has been since I've joined. Me, being extremely fat I know otters here besides making 100k a year minimum and weigh less that 100lbs they also hate fat people but I don't hold it against them everytime something with no taste or an uncalled comment is made about fats. no one should take it so seriously as to take it personal. or being dismissive by ending it with whatever. but what do I know, I don't post here that much.

[Venusian]

The review pictures has been addressed. Any bootleg google ads are removed from rotation as soon as someone reports them. No adult forum any more so no one can peddle their wares there. Bootleg everything has been off limits for as long as I can remember.


So from what I can gather, the only outstanding issue is with the site in general and the problem is there is no Adult talk. So there are no issues that are Other specific, right?

[nemein]

I'm just bringing these up as examples of where there has been confusion/debate/argument before the sale and some of this are still occuring but with the looming future of an IB owned dvdtalk.com.

Edit: Venusian said it better than I did...

I just wanted to add, I think there's also some confusion about how the site is run. The basic mode of this forum is reactionary... since anyone is allowed to post anything (I believe only the headlines are really controlled/someone has to "approve" them before they are posted) all the other moderation/control over the site is after the fact. And despite popular opinion the mods/admins are not bots and have real lives so sometimes it takes awhile to get something done. This is compounded if it's something we (as the mods) feel should be discussed as a group before any action is taken. Not sure if this helps/addresses what you are talking about...

[Venusian]

Originally Posted by nemein

A despite popular opinion the mods/admins are not bots and have real lives so sometimes it takes awhile to get something done.

No need to add lies to the discussion. I think it is a well established fact that X is a bot and that wendersfan has no life.

[BuddhaWake]

I only used those as examples of previous issues. as I stated. but if you just want to go ahead and ignore that go right ahead.

[Venusian]

who's ignoring them? I simply pointed out that they were addressed and am asking if there are other current issues

[Iron Chef]

welcome to burqa talk

[nemein]

Originally Posted by Venusian

No need to add lies to the discussion. I think it is a well established fact that X is a bot and that wendersfan has no life.

Looks like the Venusian script is on the fritz again. I'll try to fix the code later so it doesn't give away too many forum secrets

[nemein]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

welcome to burqa talk

Yep that's exactly what our end goal is how did you figure it out...

[BuddhaWake]

Originally Posted by Venusian

The review pictures has been addressed. Any bootleg google ads are removed from rotation as soon as someone reports them. No adult forum any more so no one can peddle their wares there. Bootleg everything has been off limits for as long as I can remember.


So from what I can gather, the only outstanding issue is with the site in general and the problem is there is no Adult talk. So there are no issues that are Other specific, right?

I'll quote what lotsofdvds already said:

Originally Posted by lotsofdvds

I think another misconception is that people are upset about what they can or cannot post in the Other Forum. This isn't about the Other Forum exclusively, it's about the overall changes to DVDTalk. We just are talking about it IN the Other Forum, where we should be.

I would add to the above IMO that there is a perception that the forum is heading towards being www.disboards.com real or imaginary.

[nemein]

Originally Posted by BuddhaWake

I would add to the above IMO that there is a perception that the forum is heading towards being www.disboards.com real or imaginary.

Can you provide some context to that... what the fuck is disboards