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Old 05-06-08, 09:51 AM   #101
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Those are just links, before some of the actual content was here. Are you suggesting that those are equivalent and that we remove those things
Just having the links makes this a NSFW site in some places.
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Old 05-06-08, 10:03 AM   #102
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I guess this mean no more happy naked dancing?
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Old 05-06-08, 10:05 AM   #103
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Those are just links, before some of the actual content was here. Are you suggesting that those are equivalent and that we remove those things

If XCritic is a totally separate site that Geoff owns. And DVDTALK now has nothing to do with him as it is now owned by IB why are there links to XCritic. Not trying to bitch about it I"m just curious. Seems kinda backwards that IB wants to be all family friendly yet has links to a porn site.
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Old 05-06-08, 10:08 AM   #104
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If XCritic is a totally separate site that Geoff owns. And DVDTALK now has nothing to do with him as it is now owned by IB why are there links to XCritic. Not trying to bitch about it I"m just curious. Seems kinda backwards that IB wants to be all family friendly yet has links to a porn site.
My (probably correct) guess is that Geoff had some sort of agreement where there would be links to XCritic for a certain amount of time so if someone only visited the forum for adult dvd reviews say, every 3 months, they wouldn't be confused when they couldn't find the adult reviews.
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Old 05-06-08, 10:22 AM   #105
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^ I think so too. Geoff has a link to DVDTalk on Xcritic too. Sort of a cross-promotion thing too.
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Old 05-06-08, 10:24 AM   #106
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Old 05-06-08, 10:34 AM   #107
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Old 05-06-08, 10:39 AM   #108
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Old 05-06-08, 10:41 AM   #109
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My (probably correct) guess is that Geoff had some sort of agreement where there would be links to XCritic for a certain amount of time so if someone only visited the forum for adult dvd reviews say, every 3 months, they wouldn't be confused when they couldn't find the adult reviews.
That makes sense. Totally hypocritical but makes sense.
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Old 05-06-08, 10:56 AM   #110
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Ok, I have an honest question here. I know we can say all sorts of dirty words including the word "sex" here in Otter.

Example: I need help figuring out the sex of this bird/cat/person/whatever. So clearly we can say the word "sex". However, we cannot have a thread about someone needing help with getting a girl into bed with him. Example: I want to have sex with this girl, help me figure out how to get her into the sack.

We can also say "bang", "do", "nail", "tap" - all words for sex. So we can have a thread with these words in it. Example: I need to nail up a wall so I don't hear the banging coming from outside. Help me figure out how hard to tap this nail. But if of a sexual nature then it's not ok. Example: I wanted to bang that chick, or Dude, I would so tap that.

So we can all say the words here but if we use them in a sexual way then it's considered adult. I honestly don't see the difference. As long as pictures aren't involved then why would the content matter? If it's simply about not wanting adult type conversations here then I would think they would ban all use of certain words.

I hope you can see what I'm trying to say here. I think threads about things like "The Harry Potter Broom" should be ok as long as there aren't any pictures and perhaps a NSFW warning in the title? What do you guys think?

Btw, thanks for your help with this matter. I know you mods/admins are really taking a beating over this and I'm not trying to add to your headaches.

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Old 05-06-08, 11:13 AM   #111
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I dont know what the Happy Potter thing is so I can't comment on it.

The rules haven't really changed. Threads like the Slayer threads would be allowed, but just like those threads, details aren't allowed. When Slayer started delving into particular techniques or whatever, it was cut out. His constant begging for sex was allowed
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Old 05-06-08, 11:17 AM   #112
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If XCritic is a totally separate site that Geoff owns. And DVDTALK now has nothing to do with him as it is now owned by IB why are there links to XCritic. Not trying to bitch about it I"m just curious. Seems kinda backwards that IB wants to be all family friendly yet has links to a porn site.
As part of the agreement to sell DVD Talk, G! included a provision where the links to Xcritic contractually had to appear. They might be able to shell out a significant amount of cash to change his mind (this is a guess, he has never mentioned it, suggested it, or otherwise hinted at it) but it's not on the table at this time, and this place is not making enough money to make it worth the proposal. It is also why links are allowed to Xcritic (though I would argue links to specific forums there make far more sense then the often VERY adult front page; the suggestion having been offered that they are also part of the contract).

In general, I'd like to give a nod to the moderators and administrators for doing the impossible, trying to put the genie back in the bottle after some that took it for granted considered it a "right" to do as they saw fit. My only point of contention is that whatever standard is chosen be consistently applied and reasonable within the framework of the rules presented. I don't think completely sanitizing this place makes sense and thankfully they have not done that. If they had, I'd be greatly disappointed right along with the few dozen of you that have expressed your opinions.

I'm as "adult material friendly" as any of the contributors here (by "contributor", I mean someone that actually contributes directly to the success of the website by means of reviewing) but I "get it" when people say that they don't want to go to a porn forum to discuss adult topics. You go to a porn forum to discuss porn just as you go to a DVD forum to discuss DVD's; the issue comes up that DVD Talk has decided to cut back on some of the auxiliary material (the kind that was taking over before the split). The moderators have given some latitude in regards to how far you can stray into "adult" topics but this is the SAME balancing act that has caused friction in the past (as with the porn covers that used to populate the adult forum).

If all DVD Talk has to offer some of you is a place to post pictures of photoshopped Hulk genitals, you'd do better to go to Xcritic. If you want a set of forums where the majority of topics outside of porn and adult material are dominant, DVD Talk offers, STILL offers by the way, the best place online to discuss them. The admins/mods are going to extreme lengths to cater to some of you regarding review covers, far more than G! ever did, but they have zero operational control over the review system and advertisements so if there are issues with those aspects of the website, please direct your wrath and self righteousness in those directions.
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Old 05-06-08, 11:22 AM   #113
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Just having the links makes this a NSFW site in some places.

This needs quoting, second-ing, what have you.
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Old 05-06-08, 11:38 AM   #114
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If all DVD Talk has to offer some of you is a place to post pictures of photoshopped Hulk genitals, you'd do better to go to Xcritic.
Surely there is a web forum with much higher traffic that would be better suited to post photoshopped Hunk genitals than Xcritic? Anyone know what that might be?
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Old 05-06-08, 11:54 AM   #115
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Surely there is a web forum with much higher traffic that would be better suited to post photoshopped Hunk genitals than Xcritic? Anyone know what that might be?

It looks like www.DVDnazi.com is still available!
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Old 05-06-08, 11:58 AM   #116
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Surely there is a web forum with much higher traffic that would be better suited to post photoshopped Hunk genitals than Xcritic? Anyone know what that might be?
Oh, I didn't know this was about traffic alone. If that's the case, there are dozens of forums more suited to posting that kind of thing than EITHER DT or XC. Most of the traffic at XC goes to the reviews, contests, and front page stuff (wait a minute, that's the case at DVD Talk too...) but even a casual glance shows that XC gets more lurkers (Mrs. Dangers' coloring book has received 330+ hits in a few days, Big Jim's hot girl threads get 1000 to 5000, etc.).
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It looks like www.DVDnazi.com is still available!
I'm afraid to click that link at work! Is it a joke?
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Oh, I didn't know this was about traffic alone. If that's the case, there are dozens of forums more suited to posting that kind of thing than EITHER DT or XC. Most of the traffic at XC goes to the reviews, contests, and front page stuff (wait a minute, that's the case at DVD Talk too...) but even a casual glance shows that XC gets more lurkers (Mrs. Dangers' coloring book has received 330+ hits in a few days, Big Jim's hot girl threads get 1000 to 5000, etc.).
Yeah, but porn site lurkers are a different sort of animal. They couldn't appreciate the subtle nuances of a photoshopped hulk penis.
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Yeah, but porn site lurkers are a different sort of animal. They couldn't appreciate the subtle nuances of a photoshopped hulk penis.
Of all people, you should know that they prefer seeing the real thing; allowed over there and not allowed here.
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Boy, there sure are a lot of people who don't like change. lol
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Old 05-06-08, 01:05 PM   #121
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Except there really isn't any change with respect to what is and what isn't allowed here. The only change is in what happens to the stuff that's not allowed. It used to get moved to Adult. Now there's no Adult in which to move it.
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Except there really isn't any change with respect to what is and what isn't allowed here. The only change is in what happens to the stuff that's not allowed. It used to get moved to Adult. Now there's no Adult in which to move it.
So there's no change, except that before it used to get moved to another subforum and now it's absolutely not allowed.
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So there's no change, except that before it used to get moved to another subforum and now it's absolutely not allowed.
Once again, there's really no change with respect to what's allowed in Other. People are trying to post things in Other that don't belong here and haven't belonged here, at least as long as I've been posting here. Then they act like there's some change to the policy of what is allowed here, when there isn't a change.
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