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Old 04-11-08, 10:04 PM   #1
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What happened to a person's right to choose?

Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Police: Mother A Crip, Father A Westside Baller

COMMERCE CITY, Colo. -- A couple fighting about which gang their 4-year-old toddler should join caused a public disturbance that resulted in the father's arrest, Commerce City police said Thursday.

On Saturday, Joseph Manzanares stormed into the Hollywood Video store where his girlfriend worked, threatened to kill her and knocked over several video displays and even a computer, Commerce City police Sgt. Joe Sandoval said.

After he ran out of the store, police were called and the 19-year-old was arrested at his home.

His girlfriend told police that they had been arguing about the upbringing of their son and which gang he should belong to. The teen mother, who is black, is a member of the Crips. Manzanares is Hispanic and belongs to the Westside Ballers gang, the woman said.

"They have different ideas on how the baby should be raised. Basically, she said they cannot agree on which gang the baby would 'claim,'" Sandoval said.

Manzanares was charged with disorderly conduct, harassment, and domestic violence. He was transported to the Adams County Detention Facility.

On Tuesday, he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and was sentenced to a year of probation. The misdemeanor harassment charge was dropped.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...07/detail.html


What the hell happened to Colorado?
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Old 04-11-08, 10:10 PM   #2
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It's amazing that this country has some big gangs like the ms-13, bloods, and crips. I don't think they're any different from al Qaeda and other terrorist groups.
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Old 04-11-08, 10:19 PM   #3
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We have a winner, folks. Would be interesting to see the deaths they cause outside their memberships.
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Old 04-11-08, 10:22 PM   #4
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People still have the right to choose as far as I'm concerned! I always give people, especially the wifey, the choice between open hand and back hand...
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Old 04-11-08, 10:32 PM   #5
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Old 04-11-08, 10:43 PM   #6
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This story just goes to confirm that this country is going to hell in a handbasket. What happened to just letting kids be kids? He'll have plenty of time to choose a gang when he grows up. These kinds of overprotective, career-driven parents are what's wrong with America, IMO.
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Old 04-11-08, 11:08 PM   #7
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Well, I know of six people who have me on their ignore list now.
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Old 04-11-08, 11:20 PM   #8
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Well, I know of six people who have me on their ignore list now.
Not so fast, Skippy! I was merely reacting to this thread's title.

I see The Bus posts...
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Old 04-11-08, 11:24 PM   #9
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Not so fast, Skippy! I was merely reacting to this thread's title.

I see The Bus posts...

The Bus posted? I saw no pics in this thread.
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Old 04-11-08, 11:46 PM   #10
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I think Hollywood finally has stumbled upon the plot for Baby Geniuses V
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Old 04-12-08, 12:08 AM   #11
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The gangs should sue for parental-guardian role model rights. The Latin Kings can have primary custody, but MS-13 can have Wednesday and every other weekends, Bloods and Crips can have supervised visits every Sunday from 1-3 PM. This way, everybody goes home happy.
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Old 04-12-08, 12:14 AM   #12
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I think the kid should join this gang:

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Old 04-12-08, 12:18 AM   #13
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I think the kid should join this gang:

Care to explain why you side with the mother?
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Old 04-12-08, 03:15 AM   #14
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Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...07/detail.html

Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join

Police: Mother A Crip, Father A Westside Baller

COMMERCE CITY, Colo. -- A couple fighting about which gang their 4-year-old toddler should join caused a public disturbance that resulted in the father's arrest, Commerce City police said Thursday.

On Saturday, Joseph Manzanares stormed into the Hollywood Video store where his girlfriend worked, threatened to kill her and knocked over several video displays and even a computer, Commerce City police Sgt. Joe Sandoval said.

After he ran out of the store, police were called and the 19-year-old was arrested at his home.

His girlfriend told police that they had been arguing about the upbringing of their son and which gang he should belong to. The teen mother, who is black, is a member of the Crips. Manzanares is Hispanic and belongs to the Westside Ballers gang, the woman said.

"They have different ideas on how the baby should be raised. Basically, she said they cannot agree on which gang the baby would 'claim,'" Sandoval said.

Manzanares was charged with disorderly conduct, harassment, and domestic violence. He was transported to the Adams County Detention Facility.

On Tuesday, he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and was sentenced to a year of probation. The misdemeanor harassment charge was dropped.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...07/detail.html

Article online also has a pic of the father...
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Old 04-12-08, 03:40 AM   #15
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How about a chain gang?
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Old 04-12-08, 04:14 AM   #16
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cool...is this the third thread with this article now?

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/other-talk/529374-parents-fight-over-gang-toddler-should-join-merged.html
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Old 04-12-08, 08:11 AM   #17
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Old 04-12-08, 09:44 AM   #18
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When will people learn, mixed marriages don't work -- you gotta marry within your own gang. I remember when this happened in the '50s, leading to the bloodbath of the Jets vs Sharks.

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Old 04-12-08, 11:00 AM   #19
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Missed it by THAT much:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.ph...7&postcount=16
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Old 04-13-08, 03:54 AM   #20
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sorry, didn't read either of those threads.

One it was just a post at the end and the other was renamed though.
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Old 04-13-08, 09:46 AM   #21
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He has that "faces of meth" look to him.

I suppose it's no different than arguing about which church a kid is going to.
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Old 04-13-08, 10:27 AM   #22
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Hmmm ... this reminds me of the end of Knocked Up ...
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Old 04-13-08, 10:33 AM   #23
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But the best part will be when Joseph Manzanares has to fight over which color of the coffin to put his son in and what type of make-up to hide the several bullet holes in his son's skull and face.

I figure his son is 4-years old now, so...ehh...in 5 years his son will be dead from stray shots, or in 8 years, he'll be dead for trying to rob a liquor store.
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Old 04-13-08, 11:36 AM   #24
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He has that "faces of meth" look to him.

I suppose it's no different than arguing about which church a kid is going to.
Usually those arguments don't end in a Hollywood Video being destroyed.
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Old 04-13-08, 11:39 AM   #25
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Glad to see there are responsible parents out there, looking out for their kid's future.
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