Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join [merged]

StarWarsBoy · 04-11-08, 10:04 PM

Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Police: Mother A Crip, Father A Westside Baller

COMMERCE CITY, Colo. -- A couple fighting about which gang their 4-year-old toddler should join caused a public disturbance that resulted in the father's arrest, Commerce City police said Thursday.

On Saturday, Joseph Manzanares stormed into the Hollywood Video store where his girlfriend worked, threatened to kill her and knocked over several video displays and even a computer, Commerce City police Sgt. Joe Sandoval said.

After he ran out of the store, police were called and the 19-year-old was arrested at his home.

His girlfriend told police that they had been arguing about the upbringing of their son and which gang he should belong to. The teen mother, who is black, is a member of the Crips. Manzanares is Hispanic and belongs to the Westside Ballers gang, the woman said.

"They have different ideas on how the baby should be raised. Basically, she said they cannot agree on which gang the baby would 'claim,'" Sandoval said.

Manzanares was charged with disorderly conduct, harassment, and domestic violence. He was transported to the Adams County Detention Facility.

On Tuesday, he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and was sentenced to a year of probation. The misdemeanor harassment charge was dropped.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...07/detail.html

What the hell happened to Colorado?

Ranger · 04-11-08, 10:10 PM

It's amazing that this country has some big gangs like the ms-13, bloods, and crips. I don't think they're any different from al Qaeda and other terrorist groups.

DVD Polizei · 04-11-08, 10:19 PM

We have a winner, folks. Would be interesting to see the deaths they cause outside their memberships.

gilbertr76 · 04-11-08, 10:22 PM

People still have the right to choose as far as I'm concerned! I always give people, especially the wifey, the choice between open hand and back hand...

Bandoman · 04-11-08, 10:32 PM

This is just like Romeo and Juliet. Shakespeare lives on.

dork · 04-11-08, 10:43 PM

This story just goes to confirm that this country is going to hell in a handbasket. What happened to just letting kids be kids? He'll have plenty of time to choose a gang when he grows up. These kinds of overprotective, career-driven parents are what's wrong with America, IMO.

The Bus · 04-11-08, 11:08 PM

Well, I know of six people who have me on their ignore list now.

gilbertr76 · 04-11-08, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bus

Well, I know of six people who have me on their ignore list now.

Not so fast, Skippy! I was merely reacting to this thread's title.

I see The Bus posts...

Cusm · 04-11-08, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilbertr76

Not so fast, Skippy! I was merely reacting to this thread's title.

I see The Bus posts...

The Bus posted? I saw no pics in this thread.

domino harvey · 04-11-08, 11:46 PM

I think Hollywood finally has stumbled upon the plot for Baby Geniuses V

E. Honda · 04-12-08, 12:08 AM

The gangs should sue for parental-guardian role model rights. The Latin Kings can have primary custody, but MS-13 can have Wednesday and every other weekends, Bloods and Crips can have supervised visits every Sunday from 1-3 PM. This way, everybody goes home happy.

mhg83 · 04-12-08, 12:14 AM

I think the kid should join this gang:

gilbertr76 · 04-12-08, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhg83

I think the kid should join this gang:

Care to explain why you side with the mother?

JP5683 · 04-12-08, 03:15 AM

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...07/detail.html

Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join

Police: Mother A Crip, Father A Westside Baller

COMMERCE CITY, Colo. -- A couple fighting about which gang their 4-year-old toddler should join caused a public disturbance that resulted in the father's arrest, Commerce City police said Thursday.

On Saturday, Joseph Manzanares stormed into the Hollywood Video store where his girlfriend worked, threatened to kill her and knocked over several video displays and even a computer, Commerce City police Sgt. Joe Sandoval said.

After he ran out of the store, police were called and the 19-year-old was arrested at his home.

His girlfriend told police that they had been arguing about the upbringing of their son and which gang he should belong to. The teen mother, who is black, is a member of the Crips. Manzanares is Hispanic and belongs to the Westside Ballers gang, the woman said.

"They have different ideas on how the baby should be raised. Basically, she said they cannot agree on which gang the baby would 'claim,'" Sandoval said.

Manzanares was charged with disorderly conduct, harassment, and domestic violence. He was transported to the Adams County Detention Facility.

On Tuesday, he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and was sentenced to a year of probation. The misdemeanor harassment charge was dropped.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...07/detail.html

Article online also has a pic of the father...

Graftenberg · 04-12-08, 03:40 AM

How about a chain gang?

brizz · 04-12-08, 04:14 AM

cool...is this the third thread with this article now?

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/other-talk/529374-parents-fight-over-gang-toddler-should-join-merged.html

Dr Mabuse · 04-12-08, 08:11 AM

Sean O'Hara · 04-12-08, 09:44 AM

When will people learn, mixed marriages don't work -- you gotta marry within your own gang. I remember when this happened in the '50s, leading to the bloodbath of the Jets vs Sharks.

The Bus · 04-12-08, 11:00 AM

Missed it by THAT much:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.ph...7&postcount=16
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=529374

JP5683 · 04-13-08, 03:54 AM

sorry, didn't read either of those threads.

One it was just a post at the end and the other was renamed though.

Mrs. Danger · 04-13-08, 09:46 AM

He has that "faces of meth" look to him.

I suppose it's no different than arguing about which church a kid is going to.

silentbob007 · 04-13-08, 10:27 AM

Hmmm ... this reminds me of the end of Knocked Up ...

DVD Polizei · 04-13-08, 10:33 AM

But the best part will be when Joseph Manzanares has to fight over which color of the coffin to put his son in and what type of make-up to hide the several bullet holes in his son's skull and face.

I figure his son is 4-years old now, so...ehh...in 5 years his son will be dead from stray shots, or in 8 years, he'll be dead for trying to rob a liquor store.

Joe Molotov · 04-13-08, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. Danger

He has that "faces of meth" look to him.

I suppose it's no different than arguing about which church a kid is going to.

Usually those arguments don't end in a Hollywood Video being destroyed.

pedagogue · 04-13-08, 11:39 AM

Glad to see there are responsible parents out there, looking out for their kid's future.

04-11-08, 10:04 PM	#1
StarWarsBoy Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 59	What happened to a person's right to choose? Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join Police: Mother A Crip, Father A Westside Baller COMMERCE CITY, Colo. -- A couple fighting about which gang their 4-year-old toddler should join caused a public disturbance that resulted in the father's arrest, Commerce City police said Thursday. On Saturday, Joseph Manzanares stormed into the Hollywood Video store where his girlfriend worked, threatened to kill her and knocked over several video displays and even a computer, Commerce City police Sgt. Joe Sandoval said. After he ran out of the store, police were called and the 19-year-old was arrested at his home. His girlfriend told police that they had been arguing about the upbringing of their son and which gang he should belong to. The teen mother, who is black, is a member of the Crips. Manzanares is Hispanic and belongs to the Westside Ballers gang, the woman said. "They have different ideas on how the baby should be raised. Basically, she said they cannot agree on which gang the baby would 'claim,'" Sandoval said. Manzanares was charged with disorderly conduct, harassment, and domestic violence. He was transported to the Adams County Detention Facility. On Tuesday, he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and was sentenced to a year of probation. The misdemeanor harassment charge was dropped. http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...07/detail.html What the hell happened to Colorado?

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Ranger DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 18,207	It's amazing that this country has some big gangs like the ms-13, bloods, and crips. I don't think they're any different from al Qaeda and other terrorist groups.

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dork DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,992	This story just goes to confirm that this country is going to hell in a handbasket. What happened to just letting kids be kids? He'll have plenty of time to choose a gang when he grows up. These kinds of overprotective, career-driven parents are what's wrong with America, IMO.

04-11-08, 11:46 PM	#10
domino harvey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 810	I think Hollywood finally has stumbled upon the plot for Baby Geniuses V

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E. Honda DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lost in my nametag museum Posts: 1,350	The gangs should sue for parental-guardian role model rights. The Latin Kings can have primary custody, but MS-13 can have Wednesday and every other weekends, Bloods and Crips can have supervised visits every Sunday from 1-3 PM. This way, everybody goes home happy. __________________ http://www.manvsmovies.com/ My pathetic movie review blog

04-12-08, 12:14 AM	#12
mhg83 DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 8,012	I think the kid should join this gang:

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JP5683 DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca Posts: 1,815	Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...07/detail.html Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join Police: Mother A Crip, Father A Westside Baller COMMERCE CITY, Colo. -- A couple fighting about which gang their 4-year-old toddler should join caused a public disturbance that resulted in the father's arrest, Commerce City police said Thursday. On Saturday, Joseph Manzanares stormed into the Hollywood Video store where his girlfriend worked, threatened to kill her and knocked over several video displays and even a computer, Commerce City police Sgt. Joe Sandoval said. After he ran out of the store, police were called and the 19-year-old was arrested at his home. His girlfriend told police that they had been arguing about the upbringing of their son and which gang he should belong to. The teen mother, who is black, is a member of the Crips. Manzanares is Hispanic and belongs to the Westside Ballers gang, the woman said. "They have different ideas on how the baby should be raised. Basically, she said they cannot agree on which gang the baby would 'claim,'" Sandoval said. Manzanares was charged with disorderly conduct, harassment, and domestic violence. He was transported to the Adams County Detention Facility. On Tuesday, he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and was sentenced to a year of probation. The misdemeanor harassment charge was dropped. http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...07/detail.html Article online also has a pic of the father... __________________ Returning after 7 months off DVDTalk. Not that anyone cares, but hey, I'm back. JP

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Mrs. Danger Suspended Join Date: May 2005 Location: With Nick Danger Posts: 15,192	He has that "faces of meth" look to him. I suppose it's no different than arguing about which church a kid is going to.

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DVD Polizei DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Overpricedville, OR Posts: 36,857	But the best part will be when Joseph Manzanares has to fight over which color of the coffin to put his son in and what type of make-up to hide the several bullet holes in his son's skull and face. I figure his son is 4-years old now, so...ehh...in 5 years his son will be dead from stray shots, or in 8 years, he'll be dead for trying to rob a liquor store. __________________ Blu-ray Titles: ~380 \| HD DVD Titles: ~323 "I don't sell airplane parts. I've never sold airplane parts."

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