In theory: any job is better than no job. True or false?

Vibiana · 01-09-08, 04:49 PM

The Katrina thread, which made me laugh at Charlie Goose's post so hard I almost peed myself (another story) got me thinking about another subject dear to my heart: lazy-ass people who don't want to work. I write this at my desk on work time, of course.

If you are facing unemployment, is any job better than no job? Would you work at McDonald's if that was all you could find? Why or why not?

This should be good. Hand me the popcorn!

DVD Josh · 01-09-08, 04:50 PM

The questions is not whether any job is better than no job. It's whether any money is better than no money.

antennaball · 01-09-08, 04:51 PM

I've grown partial to things like food, shelter, DVD's...so yeah, any job in a pinch.

Toad · 01-09-08, 04:55 PM

Yes, any job is better than no job.

Even shitty jobs where you get yelled at. Better than being broke.

CKMorpheus · 01-09-08, 04:58 PM

When you are on unemployment, no job IS better than a job at McDonalds.

matta · 01-09-08, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DVD Josh

The questions is not whether any job is better than no job. It's whether any money is better than no money.

In that case, you have to balance welfare and unemployment vs. McDonald's income. Seriously, if you have a family to feed and it's a temporary situation, sometimes you "earn" more money by not working. Independent of that, yes, I'd take any job I could find if I was unemployed.

Wasn't there a thread about a year ago where one poster went off about how some jobs were "beneath" him and how he'd never work at McDonald's?

Duh Vuh Duh · 01-09-08, 05:03 PM

paging slayer....

criptik28 · 01-09-08, 05:07 PM

kvrdave · 01-09-08, 05:38 PM

Yes. Crap jobs lead to better jobs. Unemployment leads nowhere.

VinVega · 01-09-08, 05:48 PM

Need the money, need the job.

calhoun07 · 01-09-08, 05:50 PM

If my unemployment benefits were going to run out I'd take a crappy job until something better came along, but I certainly wouldn't seek to stay there.

JasonF · 01-09-08, 06:09 PM

Long term, yes. Short term, I wouldn't take a job at McDonalds if it would detract from my ability to pound the pavement looking for a job as an investment banker.

movie diva · 01-09-08, 06:13 PM

Yep any job is better than no job. But I would work at In-N-Out before MacDonalds, they have better food,pay and benefits.

4KRG · 01-09-08, 06:38 PM

any job that provides BENEFITS is better than no job. I wouldn't want to be without health insurance

ernestrp · 01-09-08, 06:56 PM

But what if no job meant you could go and do anything? I mean like you have done the same old thing for so long and no tie downs, you have some money and you just want to be someplace else?

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TomOpus · 01-09-08, 07:03 PM

Boba Fett · 01-09-08, 07:11 PM

No.

I worked for a professional fundraising firm for about a week, in a non "customer" capacity. The people there preyed on the elderly using guilt and fear (i.e. how would you feel if your grandson/granddaughter was missing and there was no group to help look for him). The whole place was legalized robbery if you ask me.

You couldn't pay me enough to rob someone nor pay me enough to swindle someone out of their money.

j123vt_99 · 01-09-08, 07:48 PM

Why does everyone hate on working at McDonalds? It is an honest job where a young kid can get a job and learn the value of a dollar... a unemployed person can make an honest buck or an handicapped person can contribute to society and earn some self worth (not that they shouldn't have self worth because of being disabled)

of course it's not a dream job but i think it is a decent stepping stone

saoirse · 01-09-08, 07:50 PM

I wouldn't want a job cleaning up jizz at the 25cent booths.

4KRG · 01-09-08, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j123vt_99

Why does everyone hate on working at McDonalds?

People think of themselves as 'better' than that.

I have a relative that works at McDonald's. He has been there for 20 + years and is now a regional franchise manager making over 6 figures with a company car.

Laugh all you want

He started out as a night manager making $18k/year and just stuck with it. I won't go into the stock he has accumulated over that time and how much it is now worth, you can look up MCD and see the history.

matta · 01-09-08, 08:10 PM

I don't think people are "hating on" McDonald's - it's just the best example to get at the fundamental question, here. Working as a McDonald's cashier is job that nearly anyone can get at anytime (due to turnover / financial performance of the company), it's not gross (and avoids that issue), it's not immoral (and avoids that issue), and is about as low paying (as a cashier/burger flipper) as you can get. At the same time, there's a stigma associated with being a newly minted McDonald's cashier if you're over the age of 18.

Not to take away from people who work at McDonald's. Obviously, there are many people who work for McDonald's and make more than we'll (collectively) ever see in our lives. The use of the company is simply due to its pervasiveness.

Dash · 01-09-08, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Duh Vuh Duh

paging slayer....

beat me to it. my response was only if you are slayer. In reality yes. Its better to provide for yourself than be a worthless parasite on society.

Rockmjd23 · 01-09-08, 08:44 PM

I'd rather work at McDonalds' than be jobless, and have. If you think it's beneath you, get over yourself and get a job.

uncle-frank · 01-09-08, 09:02 PM

i would rather have a shit job than nothing at all. if you need money than you gotta do something

wabio · 01-09-08, 09:45 PM

Not in California. Freakin' welfare state!

01-09-08, 04:49 PM	#1
Vibiana DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Living in a van down by the river Posts: 10,966	In theory: any job is better than no job. True or false? The Katrina thread, which made me laugh at Charlie Goose's post so hard I almost peed myself (another story) got me thinking about another subject dear to my heart: lazy-ass people who don't want to work. I write this at my desk on work time, of course. If you are facing unemployment, is any job better than no job? Would you work at McDonald's if that was all you could find? Why or why not? This should be good. Hand me the popcorn! __________________ Vibiana hooks up with chicks, she's more of a winner than most of the internet. -- mndtrp "If everyone you know is doing it, the only thing to do is rush into a marriage. It'll turn out great so don't worry about it." -- Jules Winfield

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antennaball DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The 7-8-Triple6, Texas Posts: 3,621	I've grown partial to things like food, shelter, DVD's...so yeah, any job in a pinch. __________________ DVDSpot

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Toad DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Surrounded by idiots... Posts: 6,991	Yes, any job is better than no job. Even shitty jobs where you get yelled at. Better than being broke.

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JasonF DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The greater Chicagoland area Posts: 31,925	Long term, yes. Short term, I wouldn't take a job at McDonalds if it would detract from my ability to pound the pavement looking for a job as an investment banker. __________________ These are my DVDs 360 GamerTag: William T Bunny PSN ID: William_T_Bunny "JasonF can do no wrong!" -- Rockmjd23

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4KRG DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 15,430	any job that provides BENEFITS is better than no job. I wouldn't want to be without health insurance

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Boba Fett DVD Talk Reviewer Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,601	No. I worked for a professional fundraising firm for about a week, in a non "customer" capacity. The people there preyed on the elderly using guilt and fear (i.e. how would you feel if your grandson/granddaughter was missing and there was no group to help look for him). The whole place was legalized robbery if you ask me. You couldn't pay me enough to rob someone nor pay me enough to swindle someone out of their money.

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j123vt_99 DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 8,757	Why does everyone hate on working at McDonalds? It is an honest job where a young kid can get a job and learn the value of a dollar... a unemployed person can make an honest buck or an handicapped person can contribute to society and earn some self worth (not that they shouldn't have self worth because of being disabled) of course it's not a dream job but i think it is a decent stepping stone __________________ j123vt_99 that was so one page ago - General Zod sometimes all it takes is a slammin' hottie to make you dig down deep and discover who you really are - Scrubs

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saoirse DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,118	I wouldn't want a job cleaning up jizz at the 25cent booths.

01-09-08, 08:10 PM	#21
matta Banned Join Date: May 2000 Location: Wheaton MD Posts: 16,215	I don't think people are "hating on" McDonald's - it's just the best example to get at the fundamental question, here. Working as a McDonald's cashier is job that nearly anyone can get at anytime (due to turnover / financial performance of the company), it's not gross (and avoids that issue), it's not immoral (and avoids that issue), and is about as low paying (as a cashier/burger flipper) as you can get. At the same time, there's a stigma associated with being a newly minted McDonald's cashier if you're over the age of 18. Not to take away from people who work at McDonald's. Obviously, there are many people who work for McDonald's and make more than we'll (collectively) ever see in our lives. The use of the company is simply due to its pervasiveness.

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Rockmjd23 DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MA Posts: 17,281	I'd rather work at McDonalds' than be jobless, and have. If you think it's beneath you, get over yourself and get a job.

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uncle-frank Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 716	i would rather have a shit job than nothing at all. if you need money than you gotta do something

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