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Old 04-04-07, 10:55 AM   #1
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Teaching SLAVERY in the FIRST GRADE??

A co-worker of mine was telling me that she was a little upset when she heard that her first grader was learning about "Uncle Tom" and about slavery during February's "Black History Month," and I thought to myself, why are they teaching complex history at such a young age? Surely they can't understand - its like teaching about sex, what's the point of that? Do they have to grow up that fast?

My son is in Pre-K now, so I'm sweating it a bit.
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Old 04-04-07, 10:56 AM   #2
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It's never too early to teach kids about White Guilt.
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Old 04-04-07, 11:02 AM   #3
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I can't remember if we had history in 1st grade but I know we were reading a lot about Native Americans in 4th grade. So I'd say that it could be three years too early but no big deal.
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Old 04-04-07, 11:05 AM   #4
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Oh clam down, it's not like if they don't fully understand the concept of slavery they'll abuse their playmates into slaves. If they don't understand slavery, it'll just be another thing they don't understand on top of not to eat boogers.
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Old 04-04-07, 11:06 AM   #5
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Surely they can't understand - its like teaching about sex, what's the point of that? Do they have to grow up that fast?
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/other-talk/497113-5th-graders-have-public-sex-school-merged.html
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Old 04-04-07, 11:09 AM   #6
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Kids these days! When I was a kid, we didn't even KNOW about slavery!
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Old 04-04-07, 11:09 AM   #7
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I'm confused. What history do you think first graders should be learning?
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Old 04-04-07, 11:12 AM   #8
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I'm confused. What history do you think first graders should be learning?
You could ask the same about Sunday school.
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Old 04-04-07, 11:14 AM   #9
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Yes. Don't teach about important things and keep up with the dumbing down of children in America!
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Old 04-04-07, 11:21 AM   #10
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Four more grades and they'll be having sex in the classroom!
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Old 04-04-07, 11:24 AM   #11
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as long as they don't act it out with the black kids, no big deal
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Old 04-04-07, 11:29 AM   #12
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I would guess that there has been questions regarding slavery on a recent equivalence test, thus making necessary to teach the children on the specific topic.

It is no longer necessary to teach kids information to make them competent adults, but so they score well on the state tests.
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Old 04-04-07, 12:04 PM   #13
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Well if they do not learn about it in school, they can always learn about it by reading their bible.

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

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Old 04-04-07, 12:14 PM   #14
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It's never too early to teach kids about White Guilt.
I have no guilt! Nor should anyone alive today. All who participated in it have been dead for quite some time. I think slavery was wrong, but I certainly take no responsibility for prior generations choices or mistakes!

It's an important part of history and one that should teach us a lesson, not guilt!
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Old 04-04-07, 12:15 PM   #15
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Maybe they're just giving them a head start. Almost like how a mother reads to their baby while it's still in the womb.
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Old 04-04-07, 12:18 PM   #16
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I see no problem with this at an early age.

Children are more intelligent then given credit for.
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Old 04-04-07, 12:18 PM   #17
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I have no guilt! Nor should anyone alive today. All who participated in it have been dead for quite some time. I think slavery was wrong, but I certainly take no responsibility for prior generations choices or mistakes!

It's an important part of history and one that should teach us a lesson, not guilt!
Oh, you have a slave, all right... and his name is Mister Exclamation Point.

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Old 04-04-07, 12:28 PM   #18
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When I was in first grade, I learned about slavery too.

This black kid even took my lunch money, but I didn't learn the word "reparations" until third grade.
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Old 04-04-07, 12:29 PM   #19
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Oh, you have a slave, all right... and his name is Mister Exclamation Point.


An exclamation point is used to indicate strong feeling, for which I obviously have on the subject or I would not have used that punctuation.

Punctuation cannot be considered slavery, nor would I wish to enslave someone/something. Nice try though!
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Old 04-04-07, 12:44 PM   #20
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I have no guilt! Nor should anyone alive today. All who participated in it have been dead for quite some time. I think slavery was wrong, but I certainly take no responsibility for prior generations choices or mistakes!

It's an important part of history and one that should teach us a lesson, not guilt!
Karl Rove is still alive, isn't he?
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Old 04-04-07, 03:46 PM   #21
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Karl Rove is still alive, isn't he?
I'll have to assume he's still alive as I've not heard otherwise.
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Old 04-04-07, 03:55 PM   #22
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Karl Rove is still alive, isn't he?
I don't know about Karl, but MC Rove is alive and well.

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Old 04-04-07, 04:51 PM   #23
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I don't know about Karl, but MC Rove is alive and well.

Stop it.
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Old 04-04-07, 05:02 PM   #24
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Oh, you have a slave, all right... and his name is Mister Exclamation Point.

Sonicflood and his slave have a bright future in advertising low income jobs! Like at Circuit City, the great place to work!

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Oh clam down, it's not like if they don't fully understand the concept of slavery they'll abuse their playmates into slaves. If they don't understand slavery, it'll just be another thing they don't understand on top of not to eat boogers.
Clearly, you were not in my first grade class.

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