Taylor Swift donates $250,000 to Kesha
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Re: Taylor Swift donates $250,000 to Kesha
Wait a minute. Why does this lawsuit mean Kesha has no money? According to wikipedia:
"As of February 2016, she has reportedly sold over 33 million records (albums, tracks, and ringtones) in the United States and 60 million records worldwide.[4][5]"
She also had a TV show and probably makes millions in live gigs. Why am I feeling sorry for her? Sure, I feel sorry that she was allegedly sexually abused but how does that translate to blowing all your money?
And, Dr. Luke. Is he an MD?
By the way, Kesha is a very intelligent person. "After attaining a near-perfect score on her SATs, she was offered a full scholarship at Barnard College."
(Full disclosure: the only knowledge I have of Kesha's music is her work with The Flaming Lips.)
"As of February 2016, she has reportedly sold over 33 million records (albums, tracks, and ringtones) in the United States and 60 million records worldwide.[4][5]"
She also had a TV show and probably makes millions in live gigs. Why am I feeling sorry for her? Sure, I feel sorry that she was allegedly sexually abused but how does that translate to blowing all your money?
And, Dr. Luke. Is he an MD?
By the way, Kesha is a very intelligent person. "After attaining a near-perfect score on her SATs, she was offered a full scholarship at Barnard College."
(Full disclosure: the only knowledge I have of Kesha's music is her work with The Flaming Lips.)
Last edited by CRM114; 02-23-16 at 02:47 PM.
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This isn't the only place I've seen this sort of response. People on the Steve Hoffman Forums were saying that now she's damaged goods so no one will want to listen to her anymore. It's absolutely mind-blowing how misogynistic and puerile people can be. And that includes the OP.
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I'm completely serious. A lot of people have taken this issue as an excuse to mock and deride Kesha, which not incidentally is the sort of treatment a lot of rape and sexual abuse victims receive. If this were not a celebrity, but just a woman whose boss took sexual advantage of her, would you deem it appropriate to dismiss her by saying that she wasn't very good at her job anyway, so it's not like it mattered?
This isn't the only place I've seen this sort of response. People on the Steve Hoffman Forums were saying that now she's damaged goods so no one will want to listen to her anymore. It's absolutely mind-blowing how misogynistic and puerile people can be. And that includes the OP.
This isn't the only place I've seen this sort of response. People on the Steve Hoffman Forums were saying that now she's damaged goods so no one will want to listen to her anymore. It's absolutely mind-blowing how misogynistic and puerile people can be. And that includes the OP.
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I'm completely serious. A lot of people have taken this issue as an excuse to mock and deride Kesha, which not incidentally is the sort of treatment a lot of rape and sexual abuse victims receive. If this were not a celebrity, but just a woman whose boss took sexual advantage of her, would you deem it appropriate to dismiss her by saying that she wasn't very good at her job anyway, so it's not like it mattered?
This isn't the only place I've seen this sort of response. People on the Steve Hoffman Forums were saying that now she's damaged goods so no one will want to listen to her anymore. It's absolutely mind-blowing how misogynistic and puerile people can be. And that includes the OP.
This isn't the only place I've seen this sort of response. People on the Steve Hoffman Forums were saying that now she's damaged goods so no one will want to listen to her anymore. It's absolutely mind-blowing how misogynistic and puerile people can be. And that includes the OP.
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I don't know the details of what is going on but contracts cannot be broken based on allegations alone. Was Dr. Luke charged?
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Anyway, Dr. Luke isn't going to be convicted. Guaranteed. That doesn't mean it did or didn't happen, but that's just how the system works. It's incredibly hard to prove, and that's exactly what abusers rely on.
Let's say he's not guilty. Regardless, It's obvious that there's significant irreparable turmoil in the working relationship between Kesha, Luke, and Sony. How does that get fixed?
Should she just suck it up and record six more albums which may or may not get promoted by Sony? I don't think that's the right move - for Sony, or for Kesha - but if the contract is king, that's the only option. And you can bet that when it comes time to tour, Sony will say, "Sorry. Not in the budget. Maybe next time."
So no, the contract isn't meaningless, but I think it's fair to say that it should be re-evaluated and possibly nullified.
Sony is in the position of power here. They can let her walk away. Is Kesha worth the fight for them? I don't know but I don't think so. Personally, I think she'd be better off going indie, but maybe that's what Sony is afraid of.
The whole situation is ugly. Every bit of it. And I'm sure the stuff we don't know about is even uglier.
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Demi later retracted her statement
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-a6888976.html
Demi Lovato has criticised Taylor Swift following her $250,000 donation to Kesha.
Swift has since donated a quarter of a million dollars to help with Kesha's legal fees, but her actionshave drawn sharp criticism from Demi Lovato.
“Take something to Capitol Hill or actually speak out about something and then I'll be impressed,” Lovato tweeted.
Swift has since donated a quarter of a million dollars to help with Kesha's legal fees, but her actionshave drawn sharp criticism from Demi Lovato.
“Take something to Capitol Hill or actually speak out about something and then I'll be impressed,” Lovato tweeted.
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Because victims of significant mental and physical abuse - especially female - have never lied to someone they don't know and will likely never meet again, to protect their abusers who have complete control over their careers, right? She lied before or she's lying now so she must be a stupid lying liar who doesn't deserve a career anyway. Case closed!
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Taylor Swift is such a nice little boy.
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Kesha has been freed! New single co-written by Ryan Lewis of Macklemore fame. I think it's pretty strong :
Here's an article on The Ringer on the conflict and the upcoming album
https://theringer.com/kesha-praying-...m-bbc613125aa5
Here's an article on The Ringer on the conflict and the upcoming album
https://theringer.com/kesha-praying-...m-bbc613125aa5
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I heard her on XM radio talking about this.
I thought she was a superficial pop star at first but she has some substance when she was talking about depression and helping others.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...ession-w491374
I thought she was a superficial pop star at first but she has some substance when she was talking about depression and helping others.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...ession-w491374
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I've written every song on this album and they're all so personal. This record, quite literally, saved my life. I hope you guys like it and I hope you can hear it, and I hope it helps people.
- Kesha
LISTEN NOW
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I'm not even a Kesha fan, but I listened to the whole album and I like it a lot. Pretty good mix of pop and country among other genres.
It's getting good reviews across the board.
It's getting good reviews across the board.
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And she posed nude for the album cover too
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Saw Kesha last night as the featured performer for the Las Vegas Rock and Roll Half Marathon event She was great. What a dynamic live performer.
She has a new album coming out in January. She performed her lead single for the first time in a show. I really liked it. Certainly more of a typical Kesha song for a lead single than "Praying" (though I love that song deeply).
She has a new album coming out in January. She performed her lead single for the first time in a show. I really liked it. Certainly more of a typical Kesha song for a lead single than "Praying" (though I love that song deeply).