Fielding Mellish

Caught this doc on Showtime last night. Very Collins-era centric it seemed... and the timeline jumps were a little odd. But not bad, overall.

Funny how they never got around to mentioning "Calling All Stations" ever existed, though.

hdnmickey

Interesting indeed since even the recently released compliation album, that includes a lot of solo stuff as well, includes some tracks from CAS.

How much did it focus on the beginning of the Collins era (Trick through Ababcab)? That's the era I like over the Gabriel years and the more pop genre albums after Abacab.

Decker

Thanks for the heads-up. Will watch it off the Roku app.

van der graaf

Impossible.

Fielding Mellish

Duke and Abacab seemed to be the most focused-on albums actually.

EddieMoney

I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist.

rw2516

Have always liked the "middle" period best. Trick of the Tail/Wind and Wuthering/And Then There Were Three/Seconds Out.

cdollaz

Add Duke, which is my favorite, to your list and that is my favorite era.

gmanca

I thought this was a super fair documentary to both eras, the Collins era is a longer one than Gabriel's so it makes sense that they would cover more of it.
And they also covered much of Gabriel's initial solo career.

If anything the solo careers of the other band members was put to the back burner compared to Collins and Gabriel.

hdnmickey

I add Duke and Abacab, but that's the stuff. I especially like the versions of the old songs on Seconds Out sung by Collins.

Geofferson

Yeah, thanks for the heads-up. Definitely want to watch this at some point.

fallfan

I see what you did there

cungar

God Awful Documentary. Besides telling us nothing new, the people asked to comment sounded like they were giving facts they read in Wikipedia. Steve Hackett was shat on by the people who made this who largely ignored him and his solo work and was over shadowed by Daryl Steurmer who they used to play Hackett's famous Firth of Fifth solo. Tony Banks came across as an insufferable, domineering ****. Their best album, Selling England by the Pound got about a 30 second mention. Shite.

gmanca

This documentary did get me to pickup mike rutherford's solo albums and Tony Banks' The Fugitive. Smallday's Creep is really good but Acting Very Strange had only four good songs, Maxine, Couldn't Get Arrested, I don't wanna know, and Hideaway. I think he rushed the production on that album, it needed more work.

Unclejosh

I love Peter Gabriel solo, can't stand his stuff with Genesis but love Collins era Genesis post Hackett and love Collins solo as well. Will have to check out this documentary.

astrochimp

That's all I needed to know. I'll pass on this.

JeffTheAlpaca

I saw it and I thought it was pretty good.

I am a fan but not a hardcore but nice getting reacquainted with their work.

Are they working on a new record?

Maybe it would never happen but it would be cool if they made a new record with Gabriel and see how it would sound like after the success of the Collins era.

Fielding Mellish

That might possibly be due to him being an insufferable, domineering ****.

Jack Straw

For my money, it doesn't get any better than Seconds Out Genesis.

cungar

I pretty much agree, though for studio albums, I'd take SEBTP. Seconds Out was the peak for the band as far as Collins singing Gabriel's material mixed with the best post Gabriel work. After this Hackett left, they slowly phased out the Gabriel material (though I did see them do Supper's Ready in 1981) and it was all downhill from there. The drum duets on this album are so amazing and the version of Supper's Ready rivals the original.