Your thoughts on digital artists being resurrected?

KillerCannibal · 04-20-12, 05:18 PM

After the reaction to Tupac's hologram at Coachella, I have a nagging suspicion that the estates of some dead artists may now try giving their deceased breadwinners the same treatment. Someone (was it Dre?) has even said they'd like to see the same done to Jimi Hendrix.

What are your thoughts about seeing the dead performing as overly-animated CGI puppets on a stage?

Would you pay to "see" someone you never would have been able to otherwise?

auto · 04-20-12, 05:21 PM

Why would you go to a concert to hear pre-recorded music?

Mike86 · 04-20-12, 05:33 PM

Going to something like this in concert seems stupid to me. If I wanted to watch a pre-recorded performance why not just find something on DVD/Blu-ray? I will admit that it did look pretty cool and the technology behind it is pretty impressive but meh.

mndtrp · 04-20-12, 05:56 PM

As a full concert, or as a small bit during the middle of a show? If the whole concert was the digital artist, I probably wouldn't go. As a small bit, it probably wouldn't bother me.

On the other hand, I've seen some artists that weren't very active onstage, and used projections to round out their show, so maybe something like the Tupac thing wouldn't be out of place there.

cdollaz · 04-20-12, 05:59 PM

It is stupid and I wouldn't pay a dime to see it.

Pizza · 04-20-12, 07:24 PM

It would be an interesting exhibit for the rock hall but I can't imagine sitting through an entire concert like that. Then again, I had gotten free tickets for that Elvis concert where they showed live footage of him performing while his old band played live. It was...creepy.

GuessWho · 04-20-12, 10:37 PM

People used to go to Pink Floyd & Led Zeppelin "laser light shows" so watching digital projections to pre-recorded music isn't new.

yoshimi · 04-20-12, 10:59 PM

The only good thing about a hologram Tupac is it that it wouldn't be able to rape or shoot anyone.

The Bus · 04-21-12, 08:05 AM

Absolutely I would. Hopefully it won't take too long before they start getting really creative with it.

Like, I will totally pay $20 to see a T Rex Elvis play live.

The Black · 04-21-12, 11:36 AM

Please understand that this is a wow-factor. One that will surely be integrated in live shows in the future, but it's popularity and "special-ness" will fade quite rapidly.

TomOpus · 04-21-12, 12:26 PM

No, I would not pay to see a show that did this.

The Coachella thing was cool because it was a surprise (well, sorta, since it was leaked) cameo at a existing show that people paid to see. Something like that would be okay but not an entire show.

sniper007 · 04-21-12, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GuessWho

People used to go to Pink Floyd & Led Zeppelin "laser light shows" so watching digital projections to pre-recorded music isn't new.

I went to Floyd & Zeppelin shows it was a good time. However it was high school (The Memories)

Sonny Corinthos · 04-21-12, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pizza

It would be an interesting exhibit for the rock hall but I can't imagine sitting through an entire concert like that. Then again, I had gotten free tickets for that Elvis concert where they showed live footage of him performing while his old band played live. It was...creepy.

I have that on dvd. Love it! If there ever was a hologram Elvis tour come my way, you can bet your sweet ass my ass would be in the front row. I was only nine years old when he died so I never got to go to one of his concerts. It would be the closest thing I would ever get to seeing him perform "live".

TomOpus · 04-21-12, 01:48 PM

Wouldn't it feel weird to applaud someone who isn't even there to appreciate it? Or are you applauding the person who imitated their movements and voice?

Supermallet · 04-21-12, 02:09 PM

I find it kind of creepy, but mainly pointless. There's so much great music being made by living people that I don't want to spend my time or money seeing fake live performances by dead people.

Mike86 · 04-21-12, 02:19 PM

Yeah honestly it doesn't even really count as being "live" or "as close to seeing them as I could get since they died before I actually could". It's essentially just taking a live performance of an artist and projecting an image out. It just seems silly that anyone would want to go spend money on a ticket and go to a show for something that's fake. Why not just play a live album or watch a previously recorded concert? Maybe if it was a part of someone else's show and was just a few songs or something I could see but even then I still wouldn't see the point of this being widely used.

mcfly · 04-21-12, 02:28 PM

I thought the 2Pac thing was pretty seamless. Seeing him and Snoop perform "2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted" live like that was really cool.

Would I pay for an entire show? No. But if they implemented it in the same vein as the 2Pac thing, then absolutely. It was just very lifelike.

It'd be interesting being able to "see" artist that had passed before you were even born. I think it's very innovative.

Jason · 04-21-12, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by auto

Why would you go to a concert to hear pre-recorded music?

it doesn't have to be all prerecorded, just the dead guy's part

http://www.elvis.com/events/concert_tours.aspx

I think these "hologram" performances will have a brief period of popularity and will quickly become overused.

Jason · 04-21-12, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sniper007

I went to Floyd & Zeppelin shows it was a good time. However it was high school (The Memories)

You mean "high" school, don't you?

Laser shows are a little different. You're going for the light show. You don't expect live music.

mhg83 · 04-21-12, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mcfly

I thought the 2Pac thing was pretty seamless. Seeing him and Snoop perform "2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted" live like that was really cool.

Would I pay for an entire show? No. But if they implemented it in the same vein as the 2Pac thing, then absolutely. It was just very lifelike.

It'd be interesting being able to "see" artist that had passed before you were even born. I think it's very innovative.

Something like "Paul Mccartney and the Beatles Live" tour would be pretty cool to see.

mcfly · 04-21-12, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mhg83

Something like "Paul Mccartney and the Beatles Live" tour would be pretty cool to see.

Ringo's not dead yet.

Supermallet · 04-22-12, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mhg83

Something like "Paul Mccartney and the Beatles Live" tour would be pretty cool to see.

I would probably give money not to see that.

The Infidel · 04-23-12, 06:47 AM

nodeerforamonth · 04-23-12, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GuessWho

People used to go to Pink Floyd & Led Zeppelin "laser light shows" so watching digital projections to pre-recorded music isn't new.

Yeah but those people were stoned out of their freaking minds.

KillerCannibal · 04-25-12, 06:34 PM

From TMZ:

For the first time in nearly a decade, TLC will be reuniting for a U.S. concert tour later this year -- and TMZ has learned, the late Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes will be making a special appearance.

The group's rep tells us, Tionne "T-Boz" Watkins and Rozonda "Chilli" Thomas are currently in the planning stages of a massive 2012 reunion tour in the U.S.

So far, we're told 5 major cities have already been booked -- and even more are in the works.

But the big surprise ... we're told the group plans to pull a Tupac -- incorporating their deceased former member Left Eye in the shows, projecting her image on a big screen and working her vocals into the live performances.

FYI -- today marks 10 years since a fatal car accident in Honduras took Left Eye's life. RIP.

04-20-12, 05:18 PM	#1
KillerCannibal DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Behind the Orange Curtain Posts: 17,042	Your thoughts on digital artists being resurrected? After the reaction to Tupac's hologram at Coachella, I have a nagging suspicion that the estates of some dead artists may now try giving their deceased breadwinners the same treatment. Someone (was it Dre?) has even said they'd like to see the same done to Jimi Hendrix. What are your thoughts about seeing the dead performing as overly-animated CGI puppets on a stage? Would you pay to "see" someone you never would have been able to otherwise? __________________ DVDAf Horror Movie Challenges: 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012

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Mike86 DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,970	Re: Your thoughts on digital artists being resurrected? Going to something like this in concert seems stupid to me. If I wanted to watch a pre-recorded performance why not just find something on DVD/Blu-ray? I will admit that it did look pretty cool and the technology behind it is pretty impressive but meh.

04-20-12, 05:56 PM	#4
mndtrp DVD Talk Legend Join Date: May 2004 Location: a mile high, give or take a few feet Posts: 10,799	Re: Your thoughts on digital artists being resurrected? As a full concert, or as a small bit during the middle of a show? If the whole concert was the digital artist, I probably wouldn't go. As a small bit, it probably wouldn't bother me. On the other hand, I've seen some artists that weren't very active onstage, and used projections to round out their show, so maybe something like the Tupac thing wouldn't be out of place there.

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cdollaz DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 12,904	Re: Your thoughts on digital artists being resurrected? It is stupid and I wouldn't pay a dime to see it.

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Pizza DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,531	Re: Your thoughts on digital artists being resurrected? It would be an interesting exhibit for the rock hall but I can't imagine sitting through an entire concert like that. Then again, I had gotten free tickets for that Elvis concert where they showed live footage of him performing while his old band played live. It was...creepy. __________________ And it's not an assumption. DVD is better than DVD-R.

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GuessWho DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 21,965	Re: Your thoughts on digital artists being resurrected? People used to go to Pink Floyd & Led Zeppelin "laser light shows" so watching digital projections to pre-recorded music isn't new.

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yoshimi Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 597	Re: Your thoughts on digital artists being resurrected? The only good thing about a hologram Tupac is it that it wouldn't be able to rape or shoot anyone.

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The Bus DVD Talk Godfather Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: New York Posts: 51,620	Re: Your thoughts on digital artists being resurrected? Absolutely I would. Hopefully it won't take too long before they start getting really creative with it. Like, I will totally pay $20 to see a T Rex Elvis play live. __________________ Movies: 2002 / 03 / 04 / 05 / 06 / 07 / 08 / 09 / 10 / 11 / 12 / 2013 "Too much disclaiming in this post." – Dr. Mabuse

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The Black Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Netherlands Posts: 711	Re: Your thoughts on digital artists being resurrected? Please understand that this is a wow-factor. One that will surely be integrated in live shows in the future, but it's popularity and "special-ness" will fade quite rapidly.

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TomOpus DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 23,287	Re: Your thoughts on digital artists being resurrected? No, I would not pay to see a show that did this. The Coachella thing was cool because it was a surprise (well, sorta, since it was leaked) cameo at a existing show that people paid to see. Something like that would be okay but not an entire show. __________________ "Pear Pimples for Hairy Fishnuts!" My So-Called DVD Life (Profiler),A Fistful of Discs (DVDAf)

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TomOpus DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 23,287	Re: Your thoughts on digital artists being resurrected? Wouldn't it feel weird to applaud someone who isn't even there to appreciate it? Or are you applauding the person who imitated their movements and voice? __________________ "Pear Pimples for Hairy Fishnuts!" My So-Called DVD Life (Profiler),A Fistful of Discs (DVDAf)

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Supermallet Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Termite Terrace Posts: 38,644	Re: Your thoughts on digital artists being resurrected? I find it kind of creepy, but mainly pointless. There's so much great music being made by living people that I don't want to spend my time or money seeing fake live performances by dead people. __________________ "if you truly want to discuss Sodom with me, send me a PM" - dvdjunkie32 Watch me squawk on Twitter: @Supermallet Check out my Bond commentaries

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Mike86 DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,970	Re: Your thoughts on digital artists being resurrected? Yeah honestly it doesn't even really count as being "live" or "as close to seeing them as I could get since they died before I actually could". It's essentially just taking a live performance of an artist and projecting an image out. It just seems silly that anyone would want to go spend money on a ticket and go to a show for something that's fake. Why not just play a live album or watch a previously recorded concert? Maybe if it was a part of someone else's show and was just a few songs or something I could see but even then I still wouldn't see the point of this being widely used.

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KillerCannibal DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Behind the Orange Curtain Posts: 17,042	Re: Your thoughts on digital artists being resurrected? From TMZ: For the first time in nearly a decade, TLC will be reuniting for a U.S. concert tour later this year -- and TMZ has learned, the late Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes will be making a special appearance. The group's rep tells us, Tionne "T-Boz" Watkins and Rozonda "Chilli" Thomas are currently in the planning stages of a massive 2012 reunion tour in the U.S. So far, we're told 5 major cities have already been booked -- and even more are in the works. But the big surprise ... we're told the group plans to pull a Tupac -- incorporating their deceased former member Left Eye in the shows, projecting her image on a big screen and working her vocals into the live performances. FYI -- today marks 10 years since a fatal car accident in Honduras took Left Eye's life. RIP. __________________ DVDAf Horror Movie Challenges: 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012