GUNS N' ROSES: "Chinese Democracy" -11/23/08
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Sounds goodto me. Overall more generic than I was hoping but Axl's still got his voice and I really like a few of the songs, Street of Dreams and There was a Time especially. The MLK sample on Madagascar is lame though. Guess he's tryin' to make amends for One in a Million.
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This new final version of Chinese Democracy is definately an improvement of the leaked version I heard. It actually gives me a little hope for the CD. I have been pretty critical of the leaked songs with the exception of like two or three.
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ok, with the single being out and finally an official announcement of the 11/23 release date, I believe there's a 50% chance this will come out this year.
Based on the recordings I've heard, I believe there's a 80% chance that it will suck. I'm hoping it will not.
Based on the recordings I've heard, I believe there's a 80% chance that it will suck. I'm hoping it will not.
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This has "St. Anger"-style disaster written all over it.
Though we can hope that the suckiness of "Chinese Democracy" forces Axl's hand and gets the old band (with Duff and Slash and Izzy) back together. After all, "St. Anger" begot "Death Magnetic."
Though we can hope that the suckiness of "Chinese Democracy" forces Axl's hand and gets the old band (with Duff and Slash and Izzy) back together. After all, "St. Anger" begot "Death Magnetic."
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Originally Posted by kilcher
Apparently you cared enough to come in and read/post in the thread.
Even if it is finally officially released why does anyone care ?? But the thread title drew me in to see what the answer to that question would be... but it seems the majority thinks it's silly too.
Was just passing by... won't step on anymore feelings.
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press release from best buy/geffen:
Minneapolis, october 22, 2008 – best buy and geffen records announced that one of the most highly anticipated albums of all time, guns n’ roses’ chinese democracy, will be available beginning nov. 23 at best buy and bestbuy.com on cd, vinyl, and digital downloads. The title track, the first single from the album, was released to radio today, october 22. Chinese democracy is the first album of new material from one of rock’s most influential bands since the 1991 simultaneous releases of use your illusion i and use your illusion ii.
“the release of chinese democracy marks a historic moment in rock n’ roll,” said co-managers irving azoff and andy gould. “we’re launching with a monumental campaign developed by gary arnold and the best buy team that matches the groundbreaking sound of the album itself. guns n’ roses fans have every reason to be sad this crap band is being called guns n' roses.
“chinese democracy is one of the most highly anticipated albums in music history, and best buy is thrilled to deliver this explosive and previously elusive release to guns n’ roses fans. Longtime fans will be rewarded for their patience and loyalty to this great band, while a new generation of fans will be blown away,” said gary arnold, senior entertainment officer for best buy. “axl rose is one of the most dynamic and gifted writers and performers in modern music. Best buy is excited to work with axl to make the release of chinese democracy the musical event of 2008!” my sides hurt from laughing!
“guns n’ roses was the premier american rock band,” commented steve berman, president, sales and marketing, interscope geffen a&m records. “partnering with gary and everyone at best buy to release one of rock’s most anticipated and legendary albums is truly a moment in music history. We’re thrilled to be able to announce that chinese democracy is coming, it’s coming this year, and it’s coming to best buy.” i will believe it when i see it.
produced by axl rose and caram costanzo, the album, which will be released on black frog/geffen records, includes 14 tracks. “shackler’s revenge” debuted september 14 through the rock band 2 videogame and “if the world” can be heard in the film body of lies, which premiered on october 11.
Chinese democracy is being released in three formats: Cd, vinyl lp (with a free digital download of the tracks), and as a digital album. Pre-orders at www.bestbuy.com/chinesedemocracy begin today.
Minneapolis, october 22, 2008 – best buy and geffen records announced that one of the most highly anticipated albums of all time, guns n’ roses’ chinese democracy, will be available beginning nov. 23 at best buy and bestbuy.com on cd, vinyl, and digital downloads. The title track, the first single from the album, was released to radio today, october 22. Chinese democracy is the first album of new material from one of rock’s most influential bands since the 1991 simultaneous releases of use your illusion i and use your illusion ii.
“the release of chinese democracy marks a historic moment in rock n’ roll,” said co-managers irving azoff and andy gould. “we’re launching with a monumental campaign developed by gary arnold and the best buy team that matches the groundbreaking sound of the album itself. guns n’ roses fans have every reason to be sad this crap band is being called guns n' roses.
“chinese democracy is one of the most highly anticipated albums in music history, and best buy is thrilled to deliver this explosive and previously elusive release to guns n’ roses fans. Longtime fans will be rewarded for their patience and loyalty to this great band, while a new generation of fans will be blown away,” said gary arnold, senior entertainment officer for best buy. “axl rose is one of the most dynamic and gifted writers and performers in modern music. Best buy is excited to work with axl to make the release of chinese democracy the musical event of 2008!” my sides hurt from laughing!
“guns n’ roses was the premier american rock band,” commented steve berman, president, sales and marketing, interscope geffen a&m records. “partnering with gary and everyone at best buy to release one of rock’s most anticipated and legendary albums is truly a moment in music history. We’re thrilled to be able to announce that chinese democracy is coming, it’s coming this year, and it’s coming to best buy.” i will believe it when i see it.
produced by axl rose and caram costanzo, the album, which will be released on black frog/geffen records, includes 14 tracks. “shackler’s revenge” debuted september 14 through the rock band 2 videogame and “if the world” can be heard in the film body of lies, which premiered on october 11.
Chinese democracy is being released in three formats: Cd, vinyl lp (with a free digital download of the tracks), and as a digital album. Pre-orders at www.bestbuy.com/chinesedemocracy begin today.
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I just heard Shackler's Revenge on Rock Band 2. While it's not a horrible song it A)sounds nothing like GNR to me, and B) doesn't deserve 1/100th of the hype it's going to get.
Easy pass on this one. I doubt it will sell half of what Death Magnetic sold.
Easy pass on this one. I doubt it will sell half of what Death Magnetic sold.
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The new single isn't that bad, but I think you have to place it in the context that this is truly an Axl Rose solo album; it's G'NR in name only. There is very little musically that harks back to any of the music written under the G'NR moniker. I still firmly believe that people would be much more accepting of this project if it was being marketed as a solo release.
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The new single isn't that bad, but I think you have to place it in the context that this is truly an Axl Rose solo album; it's G'NR in name only. There is very little musically that harks back to any of the music written under the G'NR moniker. I still firmly believe that people would be much more accepting of this project if it was being marketed as a solo release.
Thanks for the poster who posted the Dr Pepper info. If pigs do fly on November 23rd and this load of bull is released, I want my free Dr. Pepper.
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The new single isn't that bad, but I think you have to place it in the context that this is truly an Axl Rose solo album; it's G'NR in name only. There is very little musically that harks back to any of the music written under the G'NR moniker. I still firmly believe that people would be much more accepting of this project if it was being marketed as a solo release.
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No one? So now you speak for everyone here? You know exactly what my thoughts are on these songs?? If you had such excellent psychic powers, I am sure the CIA would like a word with you....
Because some of us are still fans?
Some of us actually do like the new songs?
Some of us have been waiting a decade for this album and are glad we will finally get a real final product and not just demo mp3s?
I'm not a fool....I know the majority of people will simply not accept anything labeled GNR due to the lack of the the other "most famous" band members (I refuse to call Slash an "original" member though, considering he actually was not the band's FIRST guitarist)....I just do not dwell on the fact that it's called GNR and expect to hear Appetite part 2....
Look, if you hate the new GNR, that's fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinion...I personally hate 99% of country music, but you don't see me jumping into a country music thread and stating "why does anyone care about this crap?", or "no one is impressed with this shit"....
Because some of us are still fans?
Some of us actually do like the new songs?
Some of us have been waiting a decade for this album and are glad we will finally get a real final product and not just demo mp3s?
I'm not a fool....I know the majority of people will simply not accept anything labeled GNR due to the lack of the the other "most famous" band members (I refuse to call Slash an "original" member though, considering he actually was not the band's FIRST guitarist)....I just do not dwell on the fact that it's called GNR and expect to hear Appetite part 2....
Look, if you hate the new GNR, that's fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinion...I personally hate 99% of country music, but you don't see me jumping into a country music thread and stating "why does anyone care about this crap?", or "no one is impressed with this shit"....
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People would be more accepting of this project if it had come out 6 or 7 years ago. The perpetual promises and pushing back of release dates is a lot of baggage for any fan to get over.