R.I.P. Punk Rock (1977-2007)

kenbuzz · 11-01-07, 02:51 PM

According to today's issue of the IU campus newspaper, the Indiana Daily Student, punk rock has apparently died.

dick_grayson · 11-01-07, 02:52 PM

punk died over 20 years ago

aintnosin · 11-01-07, 02:52 PM

Having just seen the Sex Pistols on the Tonight Show shilling for Guitar Hero 3, I would have to agree.

dork · 11-01-07, 02:57 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071101/...ager_slaying_3

kenbuzz · 11-01-07, 02:57 PM

Punk, an abbreviated history
1965-66: U.S. garage punk emerges, including Count Five, The Monks, The Sonics and The Barbarians.
1967: First Velvet Underground album
1974: The group Television begins playing at New York venue CBGB
1976: Ramones release self-titled album and tour England
1976: Sex Pistols release "Anarchy in the U.K."
1977: The Clash releases self-titled album 1978: Sex Pistols break up, starting "post-punk" era
Early 1980s: Music gets "hardcore," with bands such as Black Flag, Circle Jerks
Early 1990s: Punk music goes grunge, with bands such as Nirvana, Green Day
1991: Documentary "1991: The Year Punk Broke," released, indicating punk's move from its roots
Late 1990s: Punk music turns safe and no longer angry, with bands such as Blink-182
November 2007: Indiana student newspaper declares punk dead. Move on, nothing to see here.

Source: IU history of music professor Andy Hollinden

dork · 11-01-07, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dick_grayson

punk died over 20 years ago

And every year since, whenever a disillusioned eighteen-year-old needs a hook for an article.

Minor Threat · 11-01-07, 03:09 PM

<---------- Still alive.....

kvrdave · 11-01-07, 03:26 PM

Didn't they just rename it to "Garage rock" or "Seattle rock" or something like that? I thought it included the genre of crappy, gravely voice guys that you can't actually hear, but are making noise.

Mopower · 11-01-07, 03:32 PM

Good riddance.

El Scorcho · 11-01-07, 03:33 PM

It's been falling apart to half time for a while now.

General Zod · 11-01-07, 03:35 PM

As I think happens with all music*.. if you listen long enough you will learn to like it. My Ex-wife was a punk rocker (With blue spiked hair, leather, etc) and she always listened to Bad Religion and Dead Kennedys and stuff like that and after hearing it over and over again I actually started thinking the music was OK.. Thank goodness she is my ex-wife and I am now cured

* = Except country.

7Keys · 11-01-07, 03:36 PM

Punk is not dead, it just sucks right now. And for the last decade or two.

Minor Threat · 11-01-07, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7Keys

Punk is not dead, it just sucks right now. And for the last decade or two.

It's also really underground right now.....

Drop · 11-01-07, 03:42 PM

It's all just Rock n Roll, which should really be catergorized as Post-Blues.

El Scorcho · 11-01-07, 03:43 PM

And that should be classified as post-classical.

AGuyNamedMike · 11-01-07, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dick_grayson

punk died over 20 years ago

At least.

slymer · 11-01-07, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7Keys

Punk is not dead, it just sucks right now. And for the last decade or two.

There's still alot of good punk music being made. I'm listening to some American Steel right now.

dom56 · 11-01-07, 04:10 PM

I just pick up The Ramones It's Alive 1974-1996 DVD last week.

Gabba Gabba Hey, Gabba Gabba Hey.

JasonF · 11-01-07, 04:25 PM

Is punk dead? I think this video answers that question:

Numanoid · 11-01-07, 04:43 PM

OK, I'm sure Giantrobo will attack me for asking, but just exactly HOW does this not belong in Music Talk?

Sean O'Hara · 11-01-07, 04:53 PM

Jolie Holland said in an interview a few years ago that no self-respecting punk makes punk music these days. They all go into alt-country like Ryan Adams, or roots-rock like Jack White, or some off-the-wall genre like the Dresden Dolls.

johnglass · 11-01-07, 05:57 PM

Chris must be devastated.

covenant · 11-01-07, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenbuzz

campus newspaper,

Fail.

atlantamoi · 11-01-07, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kvrdave

I thought it included the genre of crappy, gravely voice guys that you can't actually hear, but are making noise.

I believe that's called "Shit Rock".

I thought we were living in a post-post-post-post-post-punk world.

calhoun07 · 11-01-07, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aintnosin

Having just seen the Sex Pistols on the Tonight Show shilling for Guitar Hero 3, I would have to agree.

I was thinking of this before I even clicked on the thread to read it. That one event should be the gravestone for the punk rock movement.

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kenbuzz DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Bloomington, IN Who Dey! Posts: 13,835	Punk, an abbreviated history 1965-66: U.S. garage punk emerges, including Count Five, The Monks, The Sonics and The Barbarians. 1967: First Velvet Underground album 1974: The group Television begins playing at New York venue CBGB 1976: Ramones release self-titled album and tour England 1976: Sex Pistols release "Anarchy in the U.K." 1977: The Clash releases self-titled album 1978: Sex Pistols break up, starting "post-punk" era Early 1980s: Music gets "hardcore," with bands such as Black Flag, Circle Jerks Early 1990s: Punk music goes grunge, with bands such as Nirvana, Green Day 1991: Documentary "1991: The Year Punk Broke," released, indicating punk's move from its roots Late 1990s: Punk music turns safe and no longer angry, with bands such as Blink-182 November 2007: Indiana student newspaper declares punk dead. Move on, nothing to see here. Source: IU history of music professor Andy Hollinden __________________ Keep your head down and mind your own business. As long as it's not hurting you, who cares what anybody else does? - Nazgul 8-10-08 Sweed goes down with an achillies injury. As a Steelers fan, this is great news. - Tarantino, 5-02-10 If Tebow beats the Steelers today, I will post a pic of me Tebow'ing in one of my Pittsburgh jerseys. - Tarantino, 1-08-12

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kvrdave DVD Talk God Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 79,160	Didn't they just rename it to "Garage rock" or "Seattle rock" or something like that? I thought it included the genre of crappy, gravely voice guys that you can't actually hear, but are making noise. __________________ Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - C.S. Lewis

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dick_grayson DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lyon Estates Posts: 10,794	punk died over 20 years ago

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dork DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,960	http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071101/...ager_slaying_3

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Mopower DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Janitor's closet in Kinnick Stadium Posts: 15,717	Good riddance.

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El Scorcho DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 39,617	It's been falling apart to half time for a while now.

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General Zod DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Where it all happens - SoCal Posts: 15,824	As I think happens with all music.. if you listen long enough you will learn to like it. My Ex-wife was a punk rocker (With blue spiked hair, leather, etc) and she always listened to Bad Religion and Dead Kennedys and stuff like that and after hearing it over and over again I actually started thinking the music was OK.. Thank goodness she is my ex-wife and I am now cured = Except country. __________________ "Kneel Before Zod"

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7Keys DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: May 2007 Location: Future World Posts: 1,048	Punk is not dead, it just sucks right now. And for the last decade or two.

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