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Old 03-16-07, 05:00 AM   #1
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Can you think of any DEBUTING Music Artist from the Last 2 Years who will .....

Can you think of any DEBUTING Music Artist from the Last 2 Years who will still be going strong in 20, 25, 30 years time ?

All of the supergroups, the Stones, KISS, U2, Madonna etc started decades ago!

5-6 years ago, Britney was the hottest music artist on the planet, for the last 3 years she has to resort to showing her muff to make headlines! Ditto for the Backdoor boys, NSync etc.

Will there every be any more long term music careers ?
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Old 03-16-07, 06:31 AM   #2
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Old 03-16-07, 07:07 AM   #3
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Two years into the careers of the Stones, KISS, U2, Madonna, etc., nobody knew they were going to still be going this far down the road. I think there are definitely emerging musicians with the talent to have that kind of career longevity, but it's impossible to predict with any degree of accuracy as to whether or not they'll still be going 30 years from now. The examples of Britney, NSync, Backstreet Boys, etc. are highly irrelevant, as nearly everyone expected the boy groups and girl slut-stars to be flashes in the pan.

As for new groups that might be around for the long haul, Arcade Fire debuted a little more than 2 years ago, but they could definitely still be going strong down the road. Really, the 2 year stipulation is a pretty big flaw in this kind of question. Most bands that have debuted in the last 2 years have a single album under their belt and it's impossible to even guess if they'll have what it takes to establish a long musical career. It'd be a bit easier to look at bands that debuted in the last 5-10 years.
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Old 03-16-07, 07:19 AM   #4
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I'd pose this question...

Are there ANY bands who debuted after 1993 that will still be going - and still VERY successful - in 2017 or later? (10 years from now...)

The Stones, KISS, U2 - they can all still play arenas (and even stadiums), is there anyone from the mid 90's on who can do the same now? If there is, will any of them still be able to do it in 10 years?

I'm not a big fan of most bands that came out after 1993, so I don't know for sure (but I really doubt it).
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Old 03-16-07, 07:32 AM   #5
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B5Erik, that is a better way of putting it, that eliminates groups like Tool & Pearl Jam, yet still poses an interesting question.

Rock: The biggest rock acts of the mid-late 90's were Creed & Nickleback and to a lesser extent, Bush. None of them have a chance in hell since they just regurgitated what Pearl Jam, AIC, STP & Nirvana already did. All of whom still get tons of airplay while their red headed stepchildren get nary a song on the air these days.

Rap: Due to the 15 minutes of fame/one hit wonder - nature of this genre, I doubt anyone has any staying power. Snoop, Dre & Ice Cube are anomolies in the genre. I doubt people will still be picking up the latest Eminem in 2017.

Country: I think this genre has the best chance of producing artists who will stick around. Country fans are very loyal. Yet, despite that sentence, the Dixie Chicks are still going strong since their mid 90's boom.

R&B: This is another strong area where artists could be around awhile. I think Alicia Keys will be around for some time. She is very talented and started young.
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Old 03-16-07, 08:46 AM   #6
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Old 03-16-07, 09:43 AM   #7
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I like B5Erik's question better as well, and my answer is Beck.
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Old 03-16-07, 09:56 AM   #8
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Nickelback wasn't a "big rock act" until 2003 with "The Long Road"...and their first #1 hit "How You Remind Me" wasn't until 2001. I highly doubt they were a huge rock act in the late 90's with no hits.

I can't think of any band that is recent that has the staying-power for that long, unless it is in the country genre. Country fans usually don't get tired of the music there. Any other genre are trend followings.
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Old 03-16-07, 10:12 AM   #9
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I'd pose this question...

Are there ANY bands who debuted after 1993 that will still be going - and still VERY successful - in 2017 or later? (10 years from now...)
I think Muse is a band that can do that, and there are a few others like Spoon.

But the problem these days is that the bands that can sustain success over the long term are not being nurtured any more. Labels want BIG HITS NOW! and screw letting artists develop - your first album didn't sell in the millions? Tough shit, you're dropped! This obviously creates all the flash-in-the-pan, one-hit-wonders we have, and while this has been going on since the debut of recorded music, it seems more prevalent now. And it seems like labels are far less patient to work with a band that has potential than they used to - which is why all the really talented bands these days are on indie labels - but that also keeps them from getting wider exposure.
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Old 03-16-07, 10:36 AM   #10
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Not a big fan but Coldplay will likely be around for quite awhile.
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Old 03-16-07, 10:43 AM   #11
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He's not a favorite of mine, but I think it's a fairly safe bet that John Mayer will be going strong for years to come.
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Old 03-16-07, 11:43 AM   #12
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We've done this before. "Last two years" is hard because I don't listen to that much new music to get a handle on everyone.

Ryan Adams. He's too much of a self-promoter to ever stop working. Not a huge fan of his music, but I don't see why he would stop.

Coldplay. They definitely have the talent and fans to keep going. Unfortunately, every single album is always their "last" album. I don't see why they won't be around in ten years. They're the world's biggest "new" band right now.

Beck. Talented, still has a strong fanbase over 13 years into his career. He might not be rock-star Beck anymore but he'll be involved with music somehow.

Bright Eyes. Conor Oberst has been making music for a long time but he's still only in his 20s. I'm not going to compare him against anyone but I don't see why he can't keep putting out music.

The Flaming Lips. Not a new band, but I can see them being around for a very, very long time. They've only recently hit their stride.

John Mayer. Not a big fan of his music, but he seems to be a musician at heart like the others in this list.

Kanye West. You might hate him, but he's got a future as a producer or an MC. Producers stick around for a very, very long time. Look at RZA, Primo, etc.

Yo La Tengo. Another band that's not new but they've got no reason to not be around in the next decade.

I'd add to that list a long list of current jazz musicians, jam bands, country music artists, and metal bands. These artists usually have a mix of very devoted followers plus a love to keep doing what they're doing: music for music's sake.

The only band I can think of that could continue to be very popular and "dominate" the way U2 has is Coldplay.
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Old 03-16-07, 06:10 PM   #13
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good answers guys, anyone else ?
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Old 03-16-07, 10:54 PM   #14
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Green Day is a 90's band that I can see going for another 10 years.
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Old 03-16-07, 11:04 PM   #15
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The Killers

Ok, maybe not but we'll see.
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Old 03-17-07, 12:08 AM   #16
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Muse (debuted in 1999)
Radiohead (1993 I believe)
White Stripes (Jack White is awesome)

I really can't think of any others who I think will still be around.
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Old 03-17-07, 01:39 AM   #17
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Despite the original post, Justin Timberlake has been extremely popular in both NSync and solo since 1999. I'd say he's broken out of the teen pop mold.
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Old 03-17-07, 01:52 AM   #18
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But the problem these days is that the bands that can sustain success over the long term are not being nurtured any more. Labels want BIG HITS NOW! and screw letting artists develop - your first album didn't sell in the millions? Tough shit, you're dropped! This obviously creates all the flash-in-the-pan, one-hit-wonders we have, and while this has been going on since the debut of recorded music, it seems more prevalent now. And it seems like labels are far less patient to work with a band that has potential than they used to - which is why all the really talented bands these days are on indie labels - but that also keeps them from getting wider exposure.
I've been saying that since the mid 90's.

When smart people with just a little common sense ran the industry (read: music people, not accountants or business majors) they knew that good bands could take 2, 3, even 4 or 5 albums to hit it big. The thing was, when they did hit it big their back catalog ALSO sold well, and the record company had a band with a long career and catalog sales that continue to this day.

Bands like AC/DC, KISS, Aerosmith, Rush, Alice Cooper, Def Leppard, Judas Priest, the Scorpions, Queen, etc, etc, etc were all given multiple albums and several years to hit it big - but once they did the record company hit the jackpot! The last bands that I remember being given this opportunity were Metallica and Queensryche. (Now, Hard Rock and Heavy Metal are my forte, so I'm sure there were others from that time period who share the same story.)

But in the 90's with the immediate success of several bands record company execs, who were by this time business people and NOT music people, decided that if you didn't sell at least a half million your first time out then you never would (or that it wasn't financially prudent to keep trying). HUH???? Half of the major stars from the 60's, 70's, and early to mid 80's didn't hit it big until their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th albums!

Talk about not knowing the history of your own industry!

And they wonder why the record industry is on life support!
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Name a debuting artist from 1977, 1987, and 1997.
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Last two years is a little limiting, but I think of very recent years, John Legend, John Mayer, Norah Jones and Evanescence have "legs" and will all be around a long time.
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Name a debuting artist from 1977, 1987, and 1997.
1977 - Talking Heads, The Ramones
1987 - Guns 'N Roses (okay, they didn't last)
1997 - Hanson (still going, but not popular)

How popular do these groups have to be for consideration? Fountains of Wayne debuted in 1996, and I could see them continuing for a while. Their new album comes out next month.
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1977 - Talking Heads, The Ramones
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Old 03-17-07, 12:24 PM   #24
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