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Old 03-15-17, 12:31 PM
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re: The Matrix 4 (D: Lana Wachowski) S: Reeves, Moss

Originally Posted by islandclaws
The problem with an idea like this is the studio is clearly thinking "Hey, remember how much people loved that first Matrix movie? Now that some time has passed, let's try to recapture that magic!"

But you can't. The Matrix was a phenomenon because it felt original and fresh, something no sequel/reboot/remake/etc can be. It simply can't. Period.

WB should be investing in more original ideas instead of trotting out a beaten horse and dressing it differently.
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re: The Matrix 4 (D: Lana Wachowski) S: Reeves, Moss

Originally Posted by nando820
No wonder, they had to be watched in order. Its like watching "Return of the Jedi" before "New Hope" and "Empire", the sense of misery, discovery and imminent confrontation is lost and you just have Teddy Bears fighting robots.

Your friends suck!
Due to the downgrade in quality, watching the prequels might make him hate it even more.
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re: The Matrix 4 (D: Lana Wachowski) S: Reeves, Moss

Originally Posted by islandclaws
The Matrix was a phenomenon because it felt original and fresh, something no sequel/reboot/remake/etc can be. It simply can't. Period.
Also, where the FUCK are you going to find a phone booth these days?
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re: The Matrix 4 (D: Lana Wachowski) S: Reeves, Moss

Reeves or no sale.

Originally Posted by Rob V
Also, where the FUCK are you going to find a phone booth these days?
The matrix wasn't real. If machines programmed us to believe phone booths still exist, then they'd be here.
Old 03-15-17, 04:04 PM
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It's too early to remake The Matrix. I say do it in another 20yrs. But for now let it go.
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Too late for a sequel, too soon for a remake.
Old 03-15-17, 10:56 PM
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re: The Matrix 4 (D: Lana Wachowski) S: Reeves, Moss

The Matrix was a great experience. The sequels were alright, and I think they still hold up.

Make it like Rogue One. Same world. There's so much else that could have been happening beyond what we saw. They could write anything they want.
Old 03-16-17, 02:48 AM
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re: The Matrix 4 (D: Lana Wachowski) S: Reeves, Moss

Originally Posted by Troy Stiffler
The Matrix was a great experience. The sequels were alright, and I think they still hold up.

Make it like Rogue One. Same world. There's so much else that could have been happening beyond what we saw. They could write anything they want.
That's what ANIMATRIX did.
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re: The Matrix 4 (D: Lana Wachowski) S: Reeves, Moss

I'm honestly fine with this. I rather see it than something like Alien Covenant or Avatar 2-6.
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Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
That's what ANIMATRIX did.
I forgot about the Animatrix. Those are the exact kind of stories I was talking about. Zion woke up thousands of people. Several of which Morpheus thought was "The One" (good luck writing that with a straight face again). Plenty of stories to tell without reusing the same story.
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The Matrix was a great film. I would welcome a decent follow up to it. If Larry and Andy could come up with something that was closer to the original than the two shitty sequels, I would be in.
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re: The Matrix 4 (D: Lana Wachowski) S: Reeves, Moss

Originally Posted by jjcool
If Larry and Andy could come up with something that was closer to the original than the two shitty sequels, I would be in.
Old 03-16-17, 01:32 PM
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re: The Matrix 4 (D: Lana Wachowski) S: Reeves, Moss

Originally Posted by inri222
Due to the downgrade in quality, watching the prequels might make him hate it even more.
I never said that I hate them, just haven't seen them all.
Old 03-16-17, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by islandclaws
The problem with an idea like this is the studio is clearly thinking "Hey, remember how much people loved that first Matrix movie? Now that some time has passed, let's try to recapture that magic!"

But you can't. The Matrix was a phenomenon because it felt original and fresh, something no sequel/reboot/remake/etc can be. It simply can't. Period.

WB should be investing in more original ideas instead of trotting out a beaten horse and dressing it differently.
It's funny how this seems so obvious to everyone - except the people with money and power...
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Originally Posted by Kal-El
This just shows you how much confidence WB has in their so called DCEU.
I thought that, too...!
Old 03-16-17, 05:52 PM
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This just shows you how much confidence WB has in their so called DCEU.
I know right? Hell look at Disney. They bought the rights to Star Wars and have put a new trilogy into development and a bunch of spin off movies. Shows how much faith they have in their Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Seriously I've read a lot of asinine stuff on this message board but this is towards the top.

As for this movie, I think rebooting The Matrix might be a good idea but the Wachowskis need to stay far away. They have had one good idea and haven't made a decent movie since, and with how shitty the original trilogy ended I have no faith in them to do this right,
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re: The Matrix 4 (D: Lana Wachowski) S: Reeves, Moss

I'm all for someone new coming in with a fresh take and expanding the universe. The Animatrix is the blueprint.
Old 03-16-17, 06:09 PM
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Yeah keep the Wachowski's far far away from this. They have enough issues going on in their lives that I don't think they can add anything fresh or innovative to this. They have not made a good movie in years. Their last masterpiece Jupiter Ascending was one of the worst movies of 2015.
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re: The Matrix 4 (D: Lana Wachowski) S: Reeves, Moss

Originally Posted by robin2099
I know right? Hell look at Disney. They bought the rights to Star Wars and have put a new trilogy into development and a bunch of spin off movies. Shows how much faith they have in their Marvel Cinematic Universe.
I just meant to say if they were doing a good job with the DCEU considering they have that whole franchise to themselves and not fragmented like Marvel's is, they wouldn't need to go back to the well of one of their more recent successes.

And from what I remember, George sold Lucasfilm to Disney. It's not like Disney bought Marvel in 2009 after the first Iron Man, was disappointed with it, and actively pursued GL for another cash cow.
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Originally Posted by Kal-El
I just meant to say if they were doing a good job with the DCEU considering they have that whole franchise to themselves and not fragmented like Marvel's is, they wouldn't need to go back to the well of one of their more recent successes.

And from what I remember, George sold Lucasfilm to Disney. It's not like Disney bought Marvel in 2009 after the first Iron Man, was disappointed with it, and actively pursued GL for another cash cow.
Here's the thing. Using your logic, Disney should have never even bothered to buy Lucasfilm because the Marvel movies are doing so well, then what's the point of revising Star Wars, or remaking past animated successes? Hell what's the point of doing another Pirates movie this year. You also keep saying the DC movies have failed. So far those three movies have brought them close to $2 billion dollars. The only way they "failed" is because WB wanted more.

Warner Borthers is a business. There goal is to make Delete repeated word money and stay profitable. The Matrix is a past franchise that can make money. It has nothing to do with disappointment in the DC movies. It's about making money. Plain and simple.
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Off topic. I don't know if you guys know this but The Wachowskis are sisters now. They transsexual.
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This forum never misses an opportunity to shit on the DCU does it?
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re: The Matrix 4 (D: Lana Wachowski) S: Reeves, Moss

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
That's what ANIMATRIX did.
Studio heads cluster around one another in the corner ...

"What is he talking about?"

A low murmur emits from the group.

"No, it's genius I tell you!"
"TWO known properties?!"

The group becomes agitated with excitement.

"We can't do that!"
"Oh we can, and we are. It will be our biggest hit to date. We can't lose."



















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Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
This forum never misses an opportunity to shit on the DCU does it?
Welll...yeah. They owe us an apology. And a good movie.
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Off topic. I don't know if you guys know this but The Wachowskis are sisters now. They transsexual.
They are whatever they choose to program themselves to be.

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