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Old 12-12-16, 01:08 PM
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

So, will Affleck get the Nate Parker treatment?

Casey Affleck’s Dark Secret: The Disturbing Allegations Against the Oscar Hopeful
The producer and cinematographer of his mockumentary ‘I’m Still Here’ accused the
‘Manchester by the Sea’ star of a long cycle of sexual harassment and verbal abuse.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...r-hopeful.html
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

This movie is way too far up its own ass. Solid, but nothing amazing. Ordinary People 2.0.
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

Originally Posted by Finisher
This movie is way too far up its own ass. Solid, but nothing amazing. Ordinary People 2.0.
"Ordinary People 2.0?!". Hardly. And how exactly is this movie "up it's own ass?".
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

Yeah, I don't get that either. How was this remotely reminiscent of Ordinary People?
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

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Yeah, I don't get that either. How was this remotely reminiscent of Ordinary People?

They both star white people (!?)
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

Some people like to rag on it, but Ordinary People is a solid film.
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

Originally Posted by Norm de Plume
Some people like to rag on it, but Ordinary People is a solid film.
Yes, "Ordinary People" is a decent film. But for the love of God, winning Best Picture over "Raging Bull", "The Elephant Man", "Coal Miner's Daughter" and "Tess"? All four of those were far superior and far more deserving.
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

Very good film. Heartbreaking. Casey Affleck was very good. I don't think it was a dead lock "give him the Oscar, forget even watching the other nominees" type performance, but he should definitely be recognized with nominations from every award ceremony.

Glad I saw it, but doubt I ever watch it again. The story is just depressing.

Grade: B+
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

Impeccably made with stellar performances, terrific cinematography and a very genuine feel

However it is just not entertaining and there is really no arc. Affleck's performance is excellent but I never saw any change in him though maybe that was the point.

Really disappointed by both of the leading Oscar contenders this and La La Land.

Hell or High Water and Zooptopia are both much better than these movies in my view.

At least 10 people in my viewing of this left and never came back./
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

Originally Posted by johnnysd
Impeccably made with stellar performances, terrific cinematography and a very genuine feel

However it is just not entertaining and there is really no arc. Affleck's performance is excellent but I never saw any change in him though maybe that was the point.
it was very slight, but it was there. that was the point i believe.
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

This was a rough watch... didn't really care for it, but the performances were all good, thats what kept my interest.
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This comes out on home video and pay per view tomorrow.
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

I didn't get this one. The performances were great, with the exception of Williams who I did not think was good at all. I just didn't think the story went anywhere. 2 hours and then nothing. I didn't need a happy ending but I was looking for some kind of ending. Not a movie I think I'll ever watch again.
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

Yep nothing really happened, it was ok

Hell or High Water is better
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

Originally Posted by Osiris3657
Very good film. Heartbreaking. Casey Affleck was very good. I don't think it was a dead lock "give him the Oscar, forget even watching the other nominees" type performance, but he should definitely be recognized with nominations from every award ceremony.

Glad I saw it, but doubt I ever watch it again. The story is just depressing.

Grade: B+
My sentiments as well.
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

Finally saw this. I really liked it. Yes, it is a depressing story, but it so well-written, well-acted etc., that it didn't matter.

And I don't know what people expected out of an ending.
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

Really good performances, and really well written, and I was OK with the ending. I don't have much desire to see it again, though.
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

I've seen this twice now and it's just masterful. Can't wait till Casey wins.
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

Originally Posted by OldBoy
Can't wait till Casey wins.
From Parker to Gibson, Hollywood’s sliding scale of justice

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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

Denzel is winning the Oscar because of the sexual harassment allegations. After the Globes I still thought Casey would take the Oscar too, but Denzel's SAG win said a lot I think.

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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

I enjoyed this one but I'm giving more credit to the screenwriter and director than Affleck or anyone else. The moments of subtlety and those unseen/unheard events only referenced to, that, to me, is masterful filmmaking.

Affleck did a great job playing the part of a walking dead man, shuffling through life until he eventually meets his end. But that's it. There is virtually no growth. He never really tries to force himself outside the boundaries of grief. He is presented as a man who has endured a terrible tragedy and he remains that man at the end. There is a brief glimmer of hope in that he's getting a place with an extra room for his nephew to visit but ultimately he hasn't changed and likely will slip right back into his routine of extreme self-loathing. His bursts of violence (the two bar fights) actually felt out of character because, being depressed, I feel like little to nothing can truly affect him.

Williams brought the most to her role, going from stern housewife to grieving mother to repentant new mom. That scene with her and Affleck near the end was tense and said so much with such little information.

The editing could have been a bit more judicious, too. There were too many scenes of characters just standing there, staring at each other, fumbling for words. I think Affleck's grief and his inability to converse with most people was made clear enough. Staying with some of those moments slowed the film. There were also just some flat-out weird dialogue exchanges that didn't work at all, like Greg and his wife yelling back and forth about getting Lee a plate of food. Lots of stammering here and there, too. It sounded to me like someone trying to write overlapping dialogue but it never felt natural.

Still, this did capture depression perfectly. I like that there was no big resolution or breakthrough moments because that isn't always how life works, but if I'm watching a movie about characters I would like to see some growth over the course of 2+ hours.

3 1/2 out of 5

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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

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Denzel is winning the Oscar because of the sexual harassment allegations. After the Globes I still thought Casey would take the Oscar too, but Denzel's SAG win said a lot I think.
I gotta disagree. Denzel has his 2, more chance for Davis from that one, though the SAG award, I thought was a surprise.
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

Originally Posted by OldBoy
I gotta disagree. Denzel has his 2, more chance for Davis from that one, though the SAG award, I thought was a surprise.
I was hoping if they decided to go away from Casey they'd give one to Viggo for Captain Fantastic. I think that'd be a cool moment and Viggo gave a great performance.
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Re: Manchester By The Sea (2016, Lonergan) S: C. Affleck, Williams, Chandler, Hedges,

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Affleck wins or loses the Oscar. He was the clear front runner, but his off-putting campaigning has brought him down. I would put him and Denzel as co-favourites right now.
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