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Old 04-07-16, 03:33 PM   #126
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I will at least give it to Man of Steel that for all of its flaws the story is at least coherent for the most part unlike Batman V Superman.
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You mean the action? That was the best part. Superman has been humanized in 5 fucking films before MOS - that's enough, IMO, it was time got to cut loose.
Cut loose? Snyder went so far over the top that he made Michael Bay look like a master of subtlety, sophistication, and nuance in comparison.
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Old 04-07-16, 04:21 PM   #128
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Cut loose? Snyder went so far over the top that he made Michael Bay look like a master of subtlety, sophistication, and nuance in comparison.
No, Bay is incoherent and can't edit action scenes to save his life. At least not now. Snyder at least lets you see the action without 2 second edits all over the place.
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Old 04-07-16, 05:42 PM   #129
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If Michael Bay directed Man of Steel, it would be tough to tell Zod and Superman apart and Jimmy Olson would have been the main character.
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No, Bay is incoherent and can't edit action scenes to save his life. At least not now. Snyder at least lets you see the action without 2 second edits all over the place.
They're both bad.

The last hour of MOS is POS.
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Old 04-07-16, 05:45 PM   #131
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They're both bad.

The last hour of MOS is POS.
I disagree. As soon as the Kryptonians arrive in Kansas - from then on it was great.
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I disagree. As soon as the Kryptonians arrive in Kansas - from then on it was great.
Well, I suppose that's true if you've got the attention span of a gnat.
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Old 04-07-16, 07:46 PM   #133
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Well, I suppose that's true if you've got the attention span of a gnat.
Nah, there just needed to be some high stakes that involved Superman actually brawling with other super powered beings. Enough holding back bullshit. IMO
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Old 04-07-16, 09:22 PM   #134
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Nah, there just needed to be some high stakes that involved Superman actually brawling with other super powered beings. Enough holding back bullshit. IMO
I didn't have a problem with the action or the stakes - just the absurd length and repetitive nature of the battles. It made the movie drag and it actually became boring. You can only watch so much of any one fight before it gets tiresome - and tiring.

It was like the producers said, "Yeah, it is way too much, and should be cut in half for a more coherent, enjoyable movie, but we paid for it, so every second of FX stays in the movie!"

It was all twice as much as was necessary. Add that to the mediocre (at best) script and you've got a movie that is less than satisfying.
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I still love Snyder's visuals, but like with Sucker Punch the spectacle goes on for too long that I felt numb to it and stopped feeling excited as the action unfolded. I honestly haven't had that problem with Bay.
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Old 04-08-16, 01:08 AM   #136
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I still love Snyder's visuals, but like with Sucker Punch the spectacle goes on for too long that I felt numb to it and stopped feeling excited as the action unfolded. I honestly haven't had that problem with Bay.
You a Transformers fan or something? Not that he was coherent before that. Armageddon was the first of his films to use that 2-3 second cut for every scene.
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I disagree. As soon as the Kryptonians arrive in Kansas - from then on it was great.
GREAT? I think you're in a small (paid?) minority here. MoS is a pretty disappointing film.
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Old 04-08-16, 06:29 AM   #138
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I didn't have a problem with the action or the stakes - just the absurd length and repetitive nature of the battles. It made the movie drag and it actually became boring. You can only watch so much of any one fight before it gets tiresome - and tiring.

It was like the producers said, "Yeah, it is way too much, and should be cut in half for a more coherent, enjoyable movie, but we paid for it, so every second of FX stays in the movie!"

It was all twice as much as was necessary. Add that to the mediocre (at best) script and you've got a movie that is less than satisfying.
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Old 04-08-16, 07:54 AM   #139
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GREAT? I think you're in a small (paid?) minority here. MoS is a pretty disappointing film.


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Old 04-08-16, 08:50 AM   #140
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You a Transformers fan or something? Not that he was coherent before that. Armageddon was the first of his films to use that 2-3 second cut for every scene.
Nope, I don't care for the Transformers movies and never even saw the last one.
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Old 04-08-16, 09:49 AM   #141
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Nope, I don't care for the Transformers movies and never even saw the last one.

Watch them sometime and then get back to me. You'll most likely change your opinion on Bay.
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Old 04-08-16, 09:50 AM   #142
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GREAT? I think you're in a small (paid?) minority here. MoS is a pretty disappointing film.


Considering your user name is a reference to the shitty prequels - I don't think I need to respond to your comment. The paid part is funny, though.
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Old 04-08-16, 12:47 PM   #143
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Watch them sometime and then get back to me. You'll most likely change your opinion on Bay.
I said the only one I haven't seen is the last one. I've seen the first three and just about all the other Bay movies except his most recent. I stand by my statement.
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Old 04-08-16, 03:37 PM   #144
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Considering your user name is a reference to the shitty prequels - I don't think I need to respond to your comment. The paid part is funny, though.
To be fair, you really do have some of the worst taste around.

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I think that's funny since most of the outrage stems from the movie not being faithful enough to your little picture books.
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Old 04-08-16, 04:45 PM   #147
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I'll stop short of saying 'love' but I really like MoS... once the Krypton intro bullshit is over.

It has plenty of flaws, color palette is jacked, and Superman doesn't get to be Superman, but I still enjoy it quite a bit.
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I liked most of the Krypton stuff. I really hate the film's colors though. Krypton especially had a very bland but sheen color palette. Actually even the Krypton ship and tech looked ugly.

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To be fair, you really do have some of the worst taste around.


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I liked most of the Krypton stuff. I really hate the film's colors though. Krypton especially had a very bland but sheen color palette. Actually even the Krypton ship and tech looked ugly.
The Krypton scenes are awesome in my opinion. Loved Crowe as Jor-El and honestly Shannon was pretty good as Zod too even though I think the parts with Zod are what later bring the overall film down. The whole opening is one of the best things about Man of Steel to me personally. I also don't mind Clark wandering and helping people and the flashbacks to his childhood. The action sequences are when the film falls apart. Like I said shortly after he discovers the ship and his suit is when the film falls apart to me. I don't mind seeing him testing out his powers but the confrontations with Zod and company are what drag the film down. Also I agree about the colors being way too dreary.
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