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Old 09-12-17, 04:43 PM   #326
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

This thread just got interesting.

Plus for JJ being back!
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Old 09-12-17, 04:59 PM   #327
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Old 09-12-17, 05:01 PM   #328
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Unsure why they brought in Jack Thorne over Trevorrow only to have Abrams take his own stab at it. I'm assume it's a rework instead of a full rewrite? I guess we'll see.
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Old 09-12-17, 06:06 PM   #329
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A Star Wars movie every Christmas is awesome. You can also pretty much bet on a great return because of Christmas break and other studios keeping their tent pole films far away.
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Old 09-12-17, 06:21 PM   #330
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love the date change.

and I'm fine with JJ taking over.

I do find this whole thing somewhat fascinating and hard to believe that there was not a concrete 3 movie story arc in place here... that JJ just left some dangling strings for the next director to play with and so on. Hope it works out.
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Old 09-12-17, 06:24 PM   #331
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love the date change.

and I'm fine with JJ taking over.

I do find this whole thing somewhat fascinating and hard to believe that there was not a concrete 3 movie story arc in place here... that JJ just left some dangling strings for the next director to play with and so on. Hope it works out.
Not knowing Snokes' story, or Rey's parentage, before shooting anything seems stupid. Sure, Carrie Fisher's death was an unforseeable curve ball, but everything else should have been figured out.
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Old 09-12-17, 06:24 PM   #332
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Well, that's a nice safe choice to get the ship back on course.

I'm chuckling at the fact that JJ was just sitting around at home with really nothing to do, when Kathy Kennedy calls him to start directing a mega budget movie with no notice, he's like "sure thing!".
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Old 09-12-17, 07:49 PM   #333
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Excited that JJ is back. Big fan of his filmmaking style. I thought they should have kept him for all three films.
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Old 09-12-17, 09:10 PM   #335
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Not knowing Snokes' story, or Rey's parentage, before shooting anything seems stupid. Sure, Carrie Fisher's death was an unforseeable curve ball, but everything else should have been figured out.
I'd bet they do have those details, story structure and how they get to those plot points is probably the issue.
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Old 09-12-17, 09:30 PM   #336
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Not knowing Snokes' story, or Rey's parentage, before shooting anything seems stupid. Sure, Carrie Fisher's death was an unforseeable curve ball, but everything else should have been figured out.
I remember seeing an interview with Daisy Ridley last year saying she knew who her parents were.

From what they're saying about Snoke, is we will know as much about him as The Emperor in ROTJ. Nobody knew the Emperors backstory in 1983, we didn't even know if he was a force user.
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Old 09-12-17, 11:04 PM   #337
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Was pulling for Rian, but JJ was prob my 2nd choice...combined with the expected release date move...I'm happy with the news. And to be fair, we don't know what TLJ will be like...it might be too much of a departure...but we'll see.

As enjoyable as TFA is to watch, it's hard not to notice some of the lazy beats...and I accept that as something they felt compelled to do as a way of relaunching the SW brand (and the most important things were done right - the new characters and actors)....just hoping that the 3rd film doesn't rely on those same things.
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Old 09-13-17, 07:18 AM   #338
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Women have no understanding in defining masculine culture and identity, you can't speak on the behalf of us, just like so called male feminists can't speak for women. Patty Jenkins is right in calling out James Cameron for his Wonder Woman comments, and JJ Abrams is nothing more than a traitor to our gender. You failed us when you killed the most lengedary Alpha male in movie history and gave his ship, a Man's ship to a girl.
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Old 09-13-17, 08:56 AM   #339
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I expect JJ did TFA like Lucas did ANH. He wrote an overall outline so he could do his movie and then handed the reigns off to Disney/Johnson to fill in for the second story. Episode IX will probably end up in pretty much the exact place his outline planned for it to end up although with additional filling in by Johnson.
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Old 09-13-17, 09:16 AM   #340
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I expect JJ did TFA like Lucas did ANH. He wrote an overall outline so he could do his movie and then handed the reigns off to Disney/Johnson to fill in for the second story....
That's not how Lucas did Star Wars. He wrote that originally as just a single movie (which is why the "Episode IV" title didn't appear until re-releases). Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi were largely made up on the fly, although during preproduction on ESB there was some thinking of plot points past it.

Keep in mind that the book Splinter of the Mind's Eye was commissioned by Lucas to also serve as a possible movie sequel storyline. It's really nothing like how the later movies turned out.
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Old 09-13-17, 09:28 AM   #341
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That's not how Lucas did Star Wars. He wrote that originally as just a single movie (which is why the "Episode IV" title didn't appear until re-releases). Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi were largely made up on the fly, although during preproduction on ESB there was some thinking of plot points past it.

Keep in mind that the book Splinter of the Mind's Eye was commissioned by Lucas to also serve as a possible movie sequel storyline. It's really nothing like how the later movies turned out.
From everything I've read Lucas has said he had a back story for the characters and an idea of where things would go. How else would you explain Vader surviving at the end of ANH? The movie drops us in during the middle of a war and leaves us at the end with little resolution.

edit: although like with most things with Lucas the story changes depending on the day. It's all true from a certain point of view.
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Old 09-13-17, 09:34 AM   #342
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I'd say the same thing about getting to know an actual female instead of fearing an imaginary monster a subreddit told you about.
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Old 09-13-17, 10:11 AM   #345
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From everything I've read Lucas has said he had a back story for the characters and an idea of where things would go. How else would you explain Vader surviving at the end of ANH?
Yeah, Lucas later said he always had the series all planned out, but careful examination of all available drafts, as well as books, articles, and interviews show that he was making a lot of stuff up as he went along.

As for Vader surviving, Lucas was leaving the door open for a possible sequel, but that doesn't mean he knew the significance of Vader. Keep in mind that in the first film, Vader seems much more like Grand Moff Tarkin's lapdog than The Emperor's apprentice.

I recommend reading The Secret History of Star Wars to get an idea of the real creative process behind the films, and not Lucas's own aggrandizing.
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JJ Abrams didn't really kill Han Solo, Harrison Ford killed Han Solo. I've said all along that I firmly believe that a condition of him returning was that Han be killed off, he's wanted the character killed off since Empire.
Hell, Ford didn't even really want to be in ROTJ let alone TFA.
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I guess I'm the only one not super thrilled with JJ being back. I thought TFA was ok, not great and a lot of that had to do with his safe approach to everything. At least Gareth Edwards took a chance and made a darker film -- granted character development lacked. JJ regurgitated A New Hope... I hope he doesn't give us a 2019 version of Jedi.
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Our family's xmas tradition continues!! Every year since 2015 we've seen a Star Wars movie. Happy this is continuing.
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Our family's xmas tradition continues!! Every year since 2015 we've seen a Star Wars movie. Happy this is continuing.
You might miss out in 2018, unless they move the Han Solo movie to Christmas.
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