War for the Planet of the Apes (D: Reeves, 7/14/2017) - News, Rumors, Etc.
07-15-14, 07:39 AM
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I didn't see the first Avatar as a movie appealing enough to make $1b either, much less the $2.78b it wound up with. In fact I'm quite mystified by that. But I guess you can never underestimate a well realized world that people prefer over our own, few movies do that well these days.
07-15-14, 08:05 AM
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Re: Planet Of The Apes 3 (D: Reeves, 2016)
$2 billion of that was overseas. Add in more screens, especially China, by the time Part 2 opens and it might even be bigger. I won't underestimate it's potential.
07-15-14, 08:40 AM
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Re: Planet Of The Apes 3 (D: Reeves, 2016)
I didn't see the first Avatar as a movie appealing enough to make $1b either, much less the $2.78b it wound up with. In fact I'm quite mystified by that. But I guess you can never underestimate a well realized world that people prefer over our own, few movies do that well these days.
07-15-14, 10:31 PM
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Re: Planet Of The Apes 3 (D: Reeves, 2016)
There are three movies coming. And we are currently seeing a 4th entry to a sci-fi series which no critic likes, and online reception is as bad as it gets...make an easy 1.1 billion. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Avatar 2-4 makes 4 billion it it's sleep, easy.
01-05-15, 09:58 PM
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Re: Planet Of The Apes 3 (D: Reeves, 2016)
Pushed back a year - http://deadline.com/2015/01/gambit-a...es-1201341760/
01-05-15, 10:45 PM
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Re: Planet Of The Apes 3 (D: Reeves, 2017)
It sucks because I'm looking forward to the next installment but 3 years between sequels is about on par with any other series.
Let's hope it was delayed so they could make sure the final product is as good as possible and they aren't just monkeying around.
Let's hope it was delayed so they could make sure the final product is as good as possible and they aren't just monkeying around.
01-06-15, 01:11 AM
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While I want to completely agree with you, Cameron is pretty amazing in tapping into just the right thing at the right time. I though Titanic was a really dumb idea for a movie, and it was number 1 for like a year, and was surprisingly good. Then I thought Avatar was a horrible idea for a movie and it was the most popular movie since Titanic and while the plot is paper thin there was a lot of great things in the movie and it worked. Now I think Avatar 2, 3 and 4 sound really dumb but we will probably be surprised again.
01-06-15, 08:35 AM
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I wouldn't have thought so about the first film either, but Cameron possesses an incredible voodoo over the box office. I'm fairly sure audiences will come in droves just like they did before to see Cameron dress up cliches with CG to show them "something they've never seen before."
05-14-15, 07:18 PM
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War of the Planet of the Apes (D: Reeves, 7/14/2017) - News, Rumors, Etc.
Exclusive: New PLANET OF THE APES Movie Title Revealed
by Matt Goldberg
The ending of Dawn of the Planet of the Apes is tragic, inevitable, and telling. Caesar’s motivation throughout the film is trying to avoid war through a policy of isolation, and then seeing if peace is even possible. Fear on both sides destroys any possibility of peace, and then in the closing lines of the film Caesar says, “War has… already begun. Ape started war. And human… Human will not forgive.”
So the title of the next film may not be shocking, but we’re hearing from sources that the next Planet of the Apes movie will be titled:
War of the Planet of the Apes
And I’m on board with that. It’s a good, strong title that raises the stakes, and certainly breaks from the interchangeable “Rise” and “Dawn” for the recent Planet of the Apes films.
Director Matt Reeves was already pushing to send the apes into war for the ending of Dawn, and told Steve that the original ending “went one step further”, but he didn’t want to be boxed in. Here’s his full quote:
Presumably, that conclusion would have actually been the start of the war with an armed force coming to San Francisco since Dreyfus (Gary Oldman) told Malcolm (Jason Clarke) that the military was on their way. There’s also a shot of a warship that was used in an international trailer, but didn’t appear in the finished movie.
“War” will likely be the biggest Apes film yet, and although the title implies that Caesar will have to become a general of sorts, Reeves told us that the next movie “is about him becoming the seminal figure for ape history. [It’s] like myth ascension, him becoming the ape Moses, for lack of a better sort of character to model him after.” Moses isn’t traditionally associated with being a warrior, so I’m not exactly sure what Reeves means by that analogy. Perhaps he means that Caesar will lead the Apes to “the promised land” (i.e. their dominance on Earth) but won’t be able to enter (will he die at the end?). However Reeves chooses to proceed, I can’t wait to see the next chapter in the Apes saga.
War of the Planet of the Apes opens July 14, 2017.
by Matt Goldberg
The ending of Dawn of the Planet of the Apes is tragic, inevitable, and telling. Caesar’s motivation throughout the film is trying to avoid war through a policy of isolation, and then seeing if peace is even possible. Fear on both sides destroys any possibility of peace, and then in the closing lines of the film Caesar says, “War has… already begun. Ape started war. And human… Human will not forgive.”
So the title of the next film may not be shocking, but we’re hearing from sources that the next Planet of the Apes movie will be titled:
War of the Planet of the Apes
And I’m on board with that. It’s a good, strong title that raises the stakes, and certainly breaks from the interchangeable “Rise” and “Dawn” for the recent Planet of the Apes films.
Director Matt Reeves was already pushing to send the apes into war for the ending of Dawn, and told Steve that the original ending “went one step further”, but he didn’t want to be boxed in. Here’s his full quote:
“We actually did have an ending that went one step further, and I realized late in the game, ‘Wait a minute. I don’t want us to be boxed in in this way. I think we should be left with a more open—knowing that we were going to figure out what the next story is—I didn’t want to in a way narrow our options.’ I wanted to open them up.
What was really most important was to leave you in that emotional space with Caesar, which is the ending of the movie that you’ve seen, and know that the future is coming, but not already be at that future. Because the moment is really about the moment that’s past. It could have been the planet of the humans and the apes, and that parting between Caesar and Malcolm is a very emotional moment to me, and I didn’t want something that distracted and became something else.
So yeah, there actually was another version of the movie, and that version never even got fully realized. We cut it late, but the effects for it weren’t realized for it either.”
What was really most important was to leave you in that emotional space with Caesar, which is the ending of the movie that you’ve seen, and know that the future is coming, but not already be at that future. Because the moment is really about the moment that’s past. It could have been the planet of the humans and the apes, and that parting between Caesar and Malcolm is a very emotional moment to me, and I didn’t want something that distracted and became something else.
So yeah, there actually was another version of the movie, and that version never even got fully realized. We cut it late, but the effects for it weren’t realized for it either.”
“War” will likely be the biggest Apes film yet, and although the title implies that Caesar will have to become a general of sorts, Reeves told us that the next movie “is about him becoming the seminal figure for ape history. [It’s] like myth ascension, him becoming the ape Moses, for lack of a better sort of character to model him after.” Moses isn’t traditionally associated with being a warrior, so I’m not exactly sure what Reeves means by that analogy. Perhaps he means that Caesar will lead the Apes to “the promised land” (i.e. their dominance on Earth) but won’t be able to enter (will he die at the end?). However Reeves chooses to proceed, I can’t wait to see the next chapter in the Apes saga.
War of the Planet of the Apes opens July 14, 2017.
05-14-15, 07:23 PM
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re: War for the Planet of the Apes (D: Reeves, 7/14/2017) - News, Rumors, Etc.
Seems logical. I liked DAWN but the human characters were such stereotypical archetypes, while the apes were the only ones who showed any range. That really should be fixed for the next installment.
05-14-15, 07:41 PM
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Does nobody else think that all of these titles with two "of the's" in them are clunky as hell?
05-14-15, 07:48 PM
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We're seven films in. Precedence has been set. It's too late now.
And no, I don't think it's a problem. I like that they all have the same basic title structure.
And no, I don't think it's a problem. I like that they all have the same basic title structure.
05-14-15, 08:36 PM
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I'm a huge fan of the first two so I'm eagerly awaiting part three. A war is the direction the were headed in the last flick so it only makes sense that the title of the new movie reflects that.
05-14-15, 08:39 PM
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Something like "War on the Planet of the Apes" fits with the structure of the original series, conveys the same message, and doesn't read as clunky.
05-14-15, 08:46 PM
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That's another one that popped into my head after I posted.
05-14-15, 09:18 PM
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re: War for the Planet of the Apes (D: Reeves, 7/14/2017) - News, Rumors, Etc.
Good point, I'd forgotten. WAR FOR might've been a better choice, but Fox seems determined to keep them formatted this way. It really doesn't matter much to me though.
05-14-15, 09:25 PM
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I wonder if they thought "War for the Planet of the Apes was too reminiscent of "Battle for the Planet of the Apes".
05-14-15, 10:01 PM
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War(huh good God What is it good for? Absolutely nothing) of the Planet of the Apes
05-14-15, 10:24 PM
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I really like how they're following the original series to a point, while doing it with completely different details.
For my money Dawn was the 2nd best of ALL the Apes movies, only behind the original. Rise is just below Dawn. I'm willing to bet that War is better than Battle was. A lot better (even though Battle was a lot of fun, it wasn't a great movie, just a fairly good one).
For my money Dawn was the 2nd best of ALL the Apes movies, only behind the original. Rise is just below Dawn. I'm willing to bet that War is better than Battle was. A lot better (even though Battle was a lot of fun, it wasn't a great movie, just a fairly good one).
08-25-15, 05:20 AM
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EXCLUSIVE: Gabriel Chavarria, the young star of Universal’s upcoming Low Riders, is making his deal now to be one of two human leads in 20th Century Fox’s War Of The Planet Of The Apes, the latest installment of the franchise. Matt Reeves returns to direct, and the pic is shooting for an October start date in Vancouver.
The role is one of two main humans in the cast, much like James Franco’s part in 2011’s Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes. That 2011 film’s sequel, Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes, grossed $708M worldwide last year with Reeves at the helm, nearly double the business of the franchise reboot — a major score for Fox and producer Chernin Entertainment.
Chavarria, repped by Paradigm and Momentum, is also the male lead in Hulu’s drama series East Los High. In Low Riders, from Imagine and Blumhouse, he plays an East LA teen immersed in the world of lowrider cars and street tagging while caught between his traditional father (Demian Bichir) and his estranged gangbanger brother, who both are competing in the annual lowrider “Supershow.” His other recent credits include Aquarius, Prime Suspect, Southland and the feature Teacher Of The Year.
The role is one of two main humans in the cast, much like James Franco’s part in 2011’s Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes. That 2011 film’s sequel, Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes, grossed $708M worldwide last year with Reeves at the helm, nearly double the business of the franchise reboot — a major score for Fox and producer Chernin Entertainment.
Chavarria, repped by Paradigm and Momentum, is also the male lead in Hulu’s drama series East Los High. In Low Riders, from Imagine and Blumhouse, he plays an East LA teen immersed in the world of lowrider cars and street tagging while caught between his traditional father (Demian Bichir) and his estranged gangbanger brother, who both are competing in the annual lowrider “Supershow.” His other recent credits include Aquarius, Prime Suspect, Southland and the feature Teacher Of The Year.
