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Old 05-11-17, 01:19 PM
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Re: Wonder Woman (2017, D: Patty Jenkins,) S: Gadot, Pine

I think it can top 100M opening weekend. WB's banking on one thing and one thing only for their DCEU--name recognition. They can do anything they like with their characters because they're operating on the premise that you KNOW them already.

Doesn't matter if this is the first female-led big budget superhero/comic book film, it's Wonder Woman. There's a reason she's part of what's callled the Trinity with Bats and Supes. The general public is going to be interested enough in it to go see it regardless of quality. You can also factor in some of the F&F franchise fans who've missed her the last 2 movies to come see this.
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Re: Wonder Woman (2017, D: Patty Jenkins,) S: Gadot, Pine

Originally Posted by RichC2
Batman vs Superman made $166m, Suicide Squad made $133m.

Suicide Squad had noticeably better legs -- it ended at $325m domestic (2.44x multiplier), BvS ended at $330m (< 2x multiplier)

BvS opened bigger than The Dark Knight ($158m Opening, $534m D. Gross, 3.39x multiplier), and The Dark Knight Rises ($161m opening, $448m D. Gross, 2.78x multiplier)
Thank you, so the previous Batman trilogy did better overall, cause they were vastly superior movies. That's good people are not as dumb as WB believes.
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I don't think the WB is banking on stupid so much as they simply don't have anyone that understands the material to run the franchise.
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Re: Wonder Woman (2017, D: Patty Jenkins,) S: Gadot, Pine

Diane Lane says WW won't be as good as Under the Tuscan Sun.
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So the bar has been set. No Wonder Woman on a journey of self reflection and remodeling. Disappointed. Of course it'll be even more disappointing if Wonder Woman doesn't have as much action as Under the Tuscan Sun.
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Re: Wonder Woman (2017, D: Patty Jenkins,) S: Gadot, Pine

Originally Posted by RichC2
Batman vs Superman made $166m, Suicide Squad made $133m.

Suicide Squad had noticeably better legs -- it ended at $325m domestic (2.44x multiplier), BvS ended at $330m (< 2x multiplier)

BvS opened bigger than The Dark Knight ($158m Opening, $534m D. Gross, 3.39x multiplier), and The Dark Knight Rises ($161m opening, $448m D. Gross, 2.78x multiplier)
I wonder if it is really fair to compare Wonder Woman to the two previous movies.

- Batman v Superman: You had the DC Trilogy; Ben Affleck, who has his own following; Henry Cavill, who does have fans as well.

- Suicide Squad: You have Harley Quinn, which has this fanatical following in the comic book industry; Jared Leto, who brings his band fans and acting fanatics; large cast of B-level actors that are very easily recognized.

Now you have Wonder Woman, with Gal Gadot still proving she can continue to deliver like she did in BvS and Chris Pine (Star Trek franchise following). Not all three are equal, unless you attempt to force them to be equal.
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Originally Posted by Kal-El
I think it can top 100M opening weekend. WB's banking on one thing and one thing only for their DCEU--name recognition. They can do anything they like with their characters because they're operating on the premise that you KNOW them already.

Doesn't matter if this is the first female-led big budget superhero/comic book film, it's Wonder Woman. There's a reason she's part of what's callled the Trinity with Bats and Supes. The general public is going to be interested enough in it to go see it regardless of quality. You can also factor in some of the F&F franchise fans who've missed her the last 2 movies to come see this.
Maybe I'm just not up on how big F&F fandom is, but would people really see this movie because they're fans of Gadot in that and not because it's, well, Wonder Woman? I'd think that's part of the reason they cast Pine.
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Diane Lane says WW won't be as good as Under the Tuscan Sun.
It will probably be better than Paris Can Wait though.
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Re: Wonder Woman (2017, D: Patty Jenkins,) S: Gadot, Pine

Originally Posted by bosco685
I wonder if it is really fair to compare Wonder Woman to the two previous movies.

- Batman v Superman: You had the DC Trilogy; Ben Affleck, who has his own following; Henry Cavill, who does have fans as well.

- Suicide Squad: You have Harley Quinn, which has this fanatical following in the comic book industry; Jared Leto, who brings his band fans and acting fanatics; large cast of B-level actors that are very easily recognized.

Now you have Wonder Woman, with Gal Gadot still proving she can continue to deliver like she did in BvS and Chris Pine (Star Trek franchise following). Not all three are equal, unless you attempt to force them to be equal.
Yeah I agree. It's partially why I don't see the film having a big opening necessarily. Gadot isn't a household name at this point. Pine has some fans probably but he's in a supporting role and realistically he's no Affleck or even Cavill. I honestly don't think most people view Wonder Woman on the same level as Batman or Superman at this point either. It's not a knock on females or female led films but they're unproven at this point and really the character isn't exactly in the public eye a lot. She's known but I don't know how popular she really is.

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Well for a while the only reason DC was even publishing Wonder Woman comics was because of some arcane wording in the contract that they would lose the rights to publish her if they lapsed. That's since been rectified but she definitely isn't the draw Superman or especially Batman is, however she still is perhaps the most iconic super heroine still, and headlines the DC superhero girls line. My daughter, for one, is excited to see this.
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Originally Posted by nando820
Thank you, so the previous Batman trilogy did better overall, cause they were vastly superior movies. That's good people are not as dumb as WB believes.
Just because the previous series made more money is no indication that they were better films.

The Transformer series must be some of the greatest movies of ALL time then and the new Star Wars movies you know because the second Trilogy made more than the first one.
Old 05-15-17, 03:44 PM
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Re: Wonder Woman (2017, D: Patty Jenkins,) S: Gadot, Pine

I read the Whedon script. It wasn't awful but needed some work.

I think WW is going to be much larger than expected. It was definitely the most popular trailer when I went to see GOTG and looks terrific. I think comic book sales have almost no relation to BO sales, and WW appeals to a pretty broad demographic.

If initial review leaks hold up I think it is going to be a huge hit.
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I just am looking forward to all the bitching people will be doing if this doesn't do well. "Men can't stand to see a woman lead superhero film" Misogyny.
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Originally Posted by resinrats
I just am looking forward to all the bitching people will be doing if this doesn't do well. "Men can't stand to see a woman lead superhero film" Misogyny.
Again, I don't see how this is that different from the sci-fi genre, which has a bunch of movies led by women.
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Re: Wonder Woman (2017, D: Patty Jenkins,) S: Gadot, Pine

Originally Posted by fujishig
Again, I don't see how this is that different from the sci-fi genre, which has a bunch of movies led by women.
It isn't, at all, but that doesn't stop people from using crap like Supergirl, Elektra, and Catwoman as arguments that people don't want to see female superhero movies.

Maybe, just maybe, we've never had a successful female led superhero movie because no one has tried making a good one yet?

If this movie is bad, and doesn't do well, people will fall back on those tired arguments.
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Re: Wonder Woman (2017, D: Patty Jenkins,) S: Gadot, Pine

To be fair I think Supergirl was more a product of the era and unfortunately came during the bad Reeve films. I don't know that it was intentionally crappy as it was probably following the lead of those films. It's definitely not a good movie though.
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Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni
It isn't, at all, but that doesn't stop people from using crap like Supergirl, Elektra, and Catwoman as arguments that people don't want to see female superhero movies.

Maybe, just maybe, we've never had a successful female led superhero movie because no one has tried making a good one yet?
Oh come on, people tried to make those movies good. They failed spectacularly, but that doesn't mean they didn't try.
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I don't know what the hell WB was thinking when they made Catwoman. That was some straight up all around shit.
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Re: Wonder Woman (2017, D: Patty Jenkins,) S: Gadot, Pine

You had Halle Berry willing to wear a leather dominatrix outfit for an hour and a half. I'd greenlight it too.
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I've never found her attractive I guess.
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Honestly, a black super villain lead? That was also terrible and not at all close to the comics or related to the otherwise successful DC franchise? That was breaking almost too much ground there.

I do think the character is important. I don't think I'd care much about a Black Widow movie, much like I wouldn't care as much about a Hawkeye movie (though both have excellent recent comic runs that would probably make decent films, and have leads who have already proven to be decent action headliners). Wonder Woman is on a different level, so I'm hoping they nail it.
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Re: Wonder Woman (2017, D: Patty Jenkins,) S: Gadot, Pine

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You had Halle Berry willing to wear a leather dominatrix outfit for an hour and a half. I'd greenlight it too.
The only thing that would have made that movie watchable is if she could lick her own ass.
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The only thing that would have made that movie watchable is if she could lick her own ass.
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This could be...."the one"......

http://www.inquisitr.com/4218621/fir...099bd9c6581d40
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Gal Gadot, Patty Jenkins and Chris Pine are currently in China promoting Wonder Woman









Man, she looks stunning and she got back into shape really fast after having her baby recently. She gave birth in March.


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