Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley's Island of Dr. Moreau
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Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley's Island of Dr. Moreau
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3966544/combined
A new documentary chronicling one of the more fascinating train wrecks in recent cinema history. No trailer or release date, but I'm really looking forward to seeing it whenever available.
A new documentary chronicling one of the more fascinating train wrecks in recent cinema history. No trailer or release date, but I'm really looking forward to seeing it whenever available.
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Stanley's interview on the Island of Lost Souls blu-ray was pretty interesting. I'm sure this will be more detailed. I'll definitely look for it when it's released.
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I've never heard of this film. I'm horrible, I know. Someone enlighten me, was he trying to get it off the ground and it eventually mutated into the Frankenheimer version?
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Island of Dr. Moreau came out when I was in high school and one night I went to the theater with a group of friends with no particular plan as far as what to see. Everything playing was crap and no one could decide. I eventually just walked to the counter and bought a ticket to Dr. Moreau because a.) No one was making a decision and I just wanted to choose, even if everyone else ended up seeing something else, and b.) I was totally in love with one of the girls in our group and wanted to see if she would follow me. She did (eventually everyone else did as well), but any positive feelings I got out of the moment were almost completely mitigated by the sheer awfulness of the movie and the ill will I got from my friends for picking something so very bad.
Given my personal attachment to the crappiness of that movie, I cannot wait to check out this doc.
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I watched the original film version, ISLAND OF LOST SOULS (1933), for the DVD Talk Horror Challenge a couple of years ago and it was the first time I'd seen it in decades and it's an absolute masterpiece. If you haven't seen it, that's the version to see. The one with Burt Lancaster (1977) I've only seen once and don't recall much about it except that a bunch of martial artists played the man-animal hybrids. Oh, and Barbara Carrera, who did a nude spread in Playboy to promote the film. Which sure worked, because that's why I went to see it! When I saw it in '77, I ran into a friend who was a martial artist in the audience and sat with him and he gave a rundown of all the martial artists in the film and who they played and what they were famous for. (Forgive me if, at that age, I was more interested in Carrera. I just looked her up on IMDB. She's 68 now!)
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So where does one see this doc? The imdb link says it came out last month.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Soul_(2014_film)
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Watched earlier on Netflix-streaming. Though this was just as informative as I expected, I still get the feeling that (Had Stanley been allowed to stay on the project) Val & Marlon would've still given him COMPLETE hell. My most favorite of the interviewees, bar none, was Marco Hofschneider. I loved every single story he had to tell.
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This was good.
I personally prefer when a film has it's own voice. Richard Stanley's version definitely would have been a treat (though it would have lost a lot of money). As it was, there wasn't anything special or much to like about the final film we saw.
I personally prefer when a film has it's own voice. Richard Stanley's version definitely would have been a treat (though it would have lost a lot of money). As it was, there wasn't anything special or much to like about the final film we saw.
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I think if they would have gone for the original $8 million budget version, it would have done fine.
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Saw this a few days ago. Would really have liked to see Stanley's original vision, but agree the only to have done it was the $ 8 million version with Jurgen Prochnow in the lead.
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I, too, dug this doc. Would've been nice to see it go a little deeper, but that would've required the participation of people who are either no longer with us (Brando) or have no interest in doing so (Kilmer).
Loved the bit about Stanley sneaking his way into the film. Brilliant.
I had a crush on Balk in high school. She's STILL hot, IMO.
Stanley's version sounds like it would have been weird and bizarrely sexual and I'd love to see what he could've done. Still, watching this makes me want to watch the version that did get turned in; I haven't seen it since theaters.
Loved the bit about Stanley sneaking his way into the film. Brilliant.
I had a crush on Balk in high school. She's STILL hot, IMO.
Stanley's version sounds like it would have been weird and bizarrely sexual and I'd love to see what he could've done. Still, watching this makes me want to watch the version that did get turned in; I haven't seen it since theaters.
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What's obvious is that the make-up and creatures were designed with Stanley attached as director. In essence a studio movie was made by Frankenheimer with Stanley's equipment and tools. I was really intrigued by the idea of Stanley just disappearing into the jungle until someone stumbled upon him well into the shoot.
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Watched it.
Unfortunately this film was just a cluster-fuck of doom the entire time. It's like nobody cared much and wanted to do their own shit despite what it was set out to be.
So many changes and money issues. Brando and his ideas were horrible.
Unfortunately this film was just a cluster-fuck of doom the entire time. It's like nobody cared much and wanted to do their own shit despite what it was set out to be.
So many changes and money issues. Brando and his ideas were horrible.
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The Doc is wayyyyy better than the movie that is for sure. I liked this as well. Very interesting how it turned out.
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Considering Stanley was fired 3 days into filming, there's not enough footage that's "Stanley's" to make anything remotely like a finished cut of the film. It'd be like 1% his footage, and 99% what the other director shot.
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I thought this was fantastic documentary. It reminded me of an article I recently read about the makers of Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. In both situations small indie/arty/techy guys had clever ideas of how to make really grandiose fantasy films on a small budget and in both situations the major studios got over excited and inflated the productions with extremely expensive stars and put daunting limitations upon the filmmakers (in Sky Captain's example the studio MOVED UP the release date forcing them to outsource the effects, when the whole point of the guys' technique was that they were going to make an all effects film themselves, cheaply, with their personally designed system).
Marlon Brando was just a madman at this point. There is no logical explanation for his behavior. I think he got pleasure from ruining people's films. Even less logical is what the fuck any producer or director wanted the guy in their pictures for. He wasn't even a box office draw anymore because he'd become such a nut.
Marlon Brando was just a madman at this point. There is no logical explanation for his behavior. I think he got pleasure from ruining people's films. Even less logical is what the fuck any producer or director wanted the guy in their pictures for. He wasn't even a box office draw anymore because he'd become such a nut.
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I watched this last night and it was really good but it dragged in parts and it's only 95 minutes. Stanley reminds me of Terry Gilliam a bit.