Go Back  DVD Talk Forum > Entertainment Discussions > Movie Talk
Reload this Page >

Make a bold statement about movies.

Community
Search
Movie Talk A Discussion area for everything movie related including films In The Theaters

Make a bold statement about movies.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-20-14, 02:08 PM
  #151  
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
PatD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,287
Likes: 0
Received 156 Likes on 96 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

Another Bold Statement:

To borrow a line from Henry Kissenger: cinematic history will regard Kevin Smith with far more kindness than his contemporaries. His comedies are some of the smartest, sassiest, and most enjoyable to come out of the 90's and 00s. And it is idiotic to compare him with the scale of Scorsese or Tarantino (in order to make him look absolutely at his worst). If critics are going to be fair--try John Landis or John Hughes. His is a unique voice in Hollywood and film would be much poorer without him.
Old 09-20-14, 02:25 PM
  #152  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Sean O'Hara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Vichy America
Posts: 13,533
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

I've never watched anything by Landis or Hughes that looked like a sitcom the way Smith films do.
Old 09-20-14, 02:55 PM
  #153  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: California
Posts: 1,354
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

Originally Posted by DthRdrX
The Phantom Menace is the best Star Wars movie.

(runs and ducks for cover)
the prequels will be seen in a better light in the future
Old 09-20-14, 03:12 PM
  #154  
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,584
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

Originally Posted by duff beer
the prequels will be seen in a better light in the future
Are you implying that the sequel trilogy is going to make the prequel trilogy look like a masterpiece in comparison?
Old 09-20-14, 09:06 PM
  #155  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
hanshotfirst1138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Livonia MI
Posts: 9,678
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

Originally Posted by Solid Snake
I'd argue that that's bullshit. Some films benefit visually from filmed in digital.

Fincher's films lately have totally mastered the ability of digital. Mann's Collateral looks great cuz it's digital. The way it takes in the light, the movement, etc. Benefitted from digital. Then you have something like Public Enemies which doens't benefit visually from the digital aspect.

It all depends on the material and how it is handled in the format.

Saying that... I will say that Film is better, in the overall, than Digital. For now. Digital is getting better though.
If a person tells you that film is inherently better than digital, then frankly it's either snobbery or foolishness at this point. Too many Oscar-winning films by top filmmakers have been shot and made digitally to make that argument anymore. That said, I personally have an aesthetic preference for film and its look, but digital is getting closer and closer to being able to emulate it so precisely as to render the whole thing pointless, and given they Kodak probably won't make it to the end of the year, rendering the whole thing academic. IMO, most of the issue with digital will be solved with time (and probably very little of it) in terms of both image capture, resolution, and display (DCP) to the point where film will be a nostalgic thing and little else. Personally, I find the image of Ansel Adams or FW Murnau using digital technology and computers intellectually abhorrent, but I think that's just a knee-jerk reaction. They'd probably have been all over it (Adams likely would've been all about HDR, and I can totally see a perfectionist like Kubrick or Disney jumping all over 4K). Film is basically the horse and buggy now, I think it's just a matter of time.



The Raid films come to mind for me. Audience was totally adding in to my enjoyment of it.
When the audience talks through movies and behaves like idiots, then frankly I could do without them, but when they're well-behaved and properly react to films (I've seen this with some horror and action flicks, cheering or reacting in just the right places), they're definitely welcome, IMO, and nothing is better than having someone like-minded to talk about, and sometimes at best even argue about a movie.

Damn, WTF is with iOS 8? They really didn't think about forums when designing it apparently. Dear Lord, how cumbersome.
Old 09-20-14, 09:24 PM
  #156  
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Formerly known as "Solid Snake PAC"/Denton, Tx
Posts: 39,239
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

I've no problem w/ the use of digital. My issue with it is that it's not perfected enough to handle certain things that film has done. But it's getting there. Ever so quickly.

what about iOS8?
Old 09-21-14, 07:13 AM
  #157  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 5,457
Likes: 0
Received 55 Likes on 50 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

Kevin Smith is the worst director ever.
Old 09-21-14, 12:28 PM
  #158  
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
PatD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,287
Likes: 0
Received 156 Likes on 96 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

Originally Posted by Double_Oh_7
Kevin Smith is the worst director ever.
Worse than Edward D. Wood Jr? Worse than Uwe Boll? Worse than whoever it was directed Manos: Hands of Fate?
Old 09-21-14, 12:39 PM
  #159  
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Formerly known as "Solid Snake PAC"/Denton, Tx
Posts: 39,239
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

I think the director of Manos was an insurance salesman from El Paso. That's all I got. White guy, I think. Was in it too. Never seen the film aside from images of it. It's getting a remastered BD too.
Old 09-21-14, 12:41 PM
  #160  
DVD Talk Legend
 
DaveyJoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Maryland
Posts: 19,336
Received 186 Likes on 129 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

He was a fertilizer salesman.
Old 09-21-14, 01:34 PM
  #161  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Ash Ketchum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 12,627
Received 277 Likes on 212 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

Originally Posted by PatD
Worse than Edward D. Wood Jr? Worse than Uwe Boll? Worse than whoever it was directed Manos: Hands of Fate?
How dare you! Ed Wood was a genius who was way ahead of his time. Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid! Your ancient juvenile minds...
Old 09-21-14, 02:16 PM
  #162  
DVD Talk Godfather
 
inri222's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 50,673
Received 182 Likes on 120 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
Ed Wood was a genius who was way ahead of his time...
Old 09-22-14, 08:39 AM
  #163  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
dhmac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Kissimmee, Florida
Posts: 7,422
Received 67 Likes on 58 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138
That battle scene is killer though.
You mean the Battle of Stirling Bridge which Mel Gibson got so completely wrong that he left out the most important aspect of it: THE FUCKING BRIDGE!

( Read about how it really happened here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stirling_Bridge )
Old 09-22-14, 08:44 AM
  #164  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
dhmac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Kissimmee, Florida
Posts: 7,422
Received 67 Likes on 58 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
How dare you! Ed Wood was a genius who was way ahead of his time. Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid! Your ancient juvenile minds...
I think Ed Wood is one of the greatest comedy directors of all time and "Plan 9 From Outer Space" is one of the best comedies ever made.
Old 09-22-14, 09:03 AM
  #165  
DVD Talk Legend
 
DaveyJoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Maryland
Posts: 19,336
Received 186 Likes on 129 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

Originally Posted by dhmac
You mean the Battle of Stirling Bridge which Mel Gibson got so completely wrong that he left out the most important aspect of it: THE FUCKING BRIDGE!

( Read about how it really happened here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stirling_Bridge )
That's the one, awesome battle scene.
Old 09-24-14, 05:19 PM
  #166  
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Giantrobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Gateway Cities/Harbor Region
Posts: 63,270
Received 1,793 Likes on 1,121 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

-The fact that many SFX Companies can't get the eyes right on CGI characters is fuckin' retarded in this day and age. CGI characters with "Dead Eyes" is just lazy.
Old 09-25-14, 12:36 AM
  #167  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
hanshotfirst1138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Livonia MI
Posts: 9,678
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Originally Posted by dhmac
You mean the Battle of Stirling Bridge which Mel Gibson got so completely wrong that he left out the most important aspect of it: THE FUCKING BRIDGE! ( Read about how it really happened here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stirling_Bridge )
I didn't say it was at all historically accurate, but as a piece of filmmaking, it's pretty damn brutally exciting.
Old 09-25-14, 12:37 AM
  #168  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
hanshotfirst1138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Livonia MI
Posts: 9,678
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Originally Posted by Giantrobo
-The fact that many SFX Companies can't get the eyes right on CGI characters is fuckin' retarded in this day and age. CGI characters with "Dead Eyes" is just lazy.
Maybe it's the one thing computers can't master. Frankly, I'd feel more comfortable if there was SOMETHING they couldn't do to replace us .
Old 09-25-14, 10:38 AM
  #169  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Ky-Fi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Cape Ann, Massachusetts
Posts: 10,928
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
How dare you! Ed Wood was a genius who was way ahead of his time. Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid! Your ancient juvenile minds...
I'm not sure. I'd have to think about that.....


Old 09-25-14, 10:41 AM
  #170  
Inane Thread Master, 2018 TOTY
 
OldBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Are any of us really anywhere?
Posts: 49,403
Received 904 Likes on 765 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

The Godfather Part II is better than I.
Old 09-25-14, 11:41 AM
  #171  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
rocket1312's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 6,195
Likes: 0
Received 972 Likes on 685 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

Originally Posted by OldBoy
The Godfather Part II is better than I.
The only thing bold about that statement is the bold font you used.

Seriously though, while I personally prefer the first film, you are hardly the first person to say this.
Old 09-25-14, 11:54 AM
  #172  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
hanshotfirst1138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Livonia MI
Posts: 9,678
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Most people cheat and basically think of them as one film. I've done it more than once. Although they have two different producers and were made a year or so apart, they feel very much of a piece.
Old 09-25-14, 04:13 PM
  #173  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
rocket1312's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 6,195
Likes: 0
Received 972 Likes on 685 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

Originally Posted by Jory
As good as Godfather II is, I never thought of it as narratively important or necessary. The first movie has a beginning, a middle, and an end. The story is pretty much over. The second movie is basically just The Continuing Adventures of Michael Corleone. The first movie is all about a good man becoming evil, while the second is just about an evil man remaining evil. Michael is no different at the end of II than he is at the beginning. The flashback stuff with Vito also doesn't parallel Michael's story in II at all; it worked better in the novel when it was presented with Michael's transformation.

It's still a fucking amazing movie, extremely well-made, but I can't jump on the "it's better than the first one" bandwagon at all.
This is exactly how I feel. Part II may be better written, less pulpy, and more artfully made, but like you said, it's story is completely redundant.
Old 09-25-14, 04:16 PM
  #174  
DVD Talk Legend
 
JeffTheAlpaca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: CA
Posts: 23,415
Received 718 Likes on 587 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

Why is every movie now 2 hrs +?

I thought this was Hollywood and not Bollywood.
Old 09-26-14, 09:55 AM
  #175  
DVD Talk Godfather
 
inri222's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 50,673
Received 182 Likes on 120 Posts
Re: Make a bold statement about movies.

Wes Anderson has not made a good film since The Royal Tenenbaums


Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.