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Old 09-02-14, 05:54 PM   #51
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As long as DC is borrowing from the Marvel Movie playbook, I really hope they take a cue from Guardians of the Galaxy and give either the Metal Men and/or the Doom Patrol a try.

I'm having a heck of a hard time envisioning a future where DC has a movie universe as successful as Marvel's. Maybe this is an obvious point, but I feel half of the reason Marvel has been successful so far is that it started its universe with an excellent movie: Iron Man.

DC has done well with Batman, but that's outside of this new universe. Green Lantern was a big fail and Man of Steel didn't exactly set the world on fire. If Supes v Bats doesn't leave everyone excited and longing for more, every movie tied to this universe is going to stink of its taint, and any dream of a Metal Men movie lighting the box office on fire like GotG did would never happen.

Sorry... longtime DC fan... feel free to ignore.
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Old 09-02-14, 07:45 PM   #52
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As long as DC is borrowing from the Marvel Movie playbook, I really hope they take a cue from Guardians of the Galaxy and give either the Metal Men and/or the Doom Patrol a try.

I'm having a heck of a hard time envisioning a future where DC has a movie universe as successful as Marvel's. Maybe this is an obvious point, but I feel half of the reason Marvel has been successful so far is that it started its universe with an excellent movie: Iron Man.

DC has done well with Batman, but that's outside of this new universe. Green Lantern was a big fail and Man of Steel didn't exactly set the world on fire. If Supes v Bats doesn't leave everyone excited and longing for more, every movie tied to this universe is going to stink of its taint, and any dream of a Metal Men movie lighting the box office on fire like GotG did would never happen.

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Look at the bright side, Marvel animation is just all around TERRIBLE. Animation from DC is usually pretty awesome and we get a new release like every 6 months.
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Old 09-03-14, 05:34 AM   #53
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Look at the bright side, Marvel animation is just all around TERRIBLE. Animation from DC is usually pretty awesome and we get a new release like every 6 months.
I agree up until recently. Used to scarf the new DC animated movies up, but they're getting stale because they've overdone Batman, Superman, and Justice League. Time for an Aquaman, Green Arrow, Justice Society, or Titans movie.
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Old 09-03-14, 10:57 AM   #54
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Perfect choice. I hope they don't waste him one and done, and have him appear more, like Loki.

As far as Billy and Shazam though, I have no idea.
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Old 09-03-14, 11:00 AM   #55
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I do like the casting and interested to see him play a full-on villain.
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Update Noon EDT: And that didn't take long to build, as Variety has some more details, though again, these are sourced and now directly from Warner Brothers. The trade reports that Darren Lemke is writing the script of Shazam, with Dwayne Johnson listed as the star, playing the role of Black Adam. They describe the character as "more of an anti-hero trying to clear his name than a villain." They say that Lemke's hiring is a new one, but that the film may be fast-tracked once he's finished with the script.
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Old 09-03-14, 11:21 AM   #57
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Good casting choice.
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Old 09-03-14, 11:28 AM   #58
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Emma Watson as Batgirl. I feel creepy just typing that but I want it made.
You feel creepy? I just thought of Emma Watson in a The Killing Joke adaptation where Joker shoots her through the spine, then strips her naked, and photographs her.
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Old 09-03-14, 11:33 AM   #59
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Great choice. Beyond the physical, he's got a great voice. Really interested in how they do the big cheese with Batson. That dynamic can be very refreshing and unique.
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Old 09-03-14, 11:37 AM   #60
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Really interested in how they do the big cheese with Batson.
Personally, I hope Billy Batson gets very minimal screen time. Nothing ruins a movie more than a punk ass kid sideplot. Iron Man 3 gets a bad rap, but the only thing I truly disliked about the movie was that stupid sideplot with the kid.
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Old 09-03-14, 12:18 PM   #61
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That's why I put that last sentence.

Personally I've never cared much for Batson, the kid. But there are great moments sometimes where the split is really well done. You're going to need a good chunk of Batson no matter what. He's still a kid. I actually liked Batson in his New 52 origins. As the human character, it seemed well done and very true for the modern.

If they can find a great actor in a kid, even better. I'm actually really interested in how child actors, within like the past 15 years, have actually become their own people in the craft. The number of quality kid actors has grown and some are very interesting to see in creating their talent.

For the most part, children in the visual media is a breathing prop at best. So it's great to see somebody like Breslin, the Fannings, Radcliffe, and etc be actual creative members in the craft.
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Old 09-03-14, 12:21 PM   #62
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They've re-made Billy Batson to be a punk kid with an attitude these days. I'm more interested in what they do with Mary Marvel and Captain Marvel, Jr. as part of the Shazam film.
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Old 09-03-14, 03:09 PM   #63
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Cant wait for this! I've always loved the Captain Marvel(Shazam) character, and The Rock has Black Adam is perfect casting. Not sure who to get for Cap yet even though the first thought I had was someone like Taylor Kitsch.
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Old 09-03-14, 03:13 PM   #64
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Don't they have to get someone with at least the same size/muscular build as the Rock? Or is Black Adam going to tower over Captain Marvel?

CM Jr. and Mary should be much easier to cast, if they go that route for the first movie. I really hope we don't see the new 52 entire orphanage of Shazams, though.
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Don't they have to get someone with at least the same size/muscular build as the Rock? Or is Black Adam going to tower over Captain Marvel?

CM Jr. and Mary should be much easier to cast, if they go that route for the first movie. I really hope we don't see the new 52 entire orphanage of Shazams, though.
Having the villain be much more intimidating looking than the hero usually isn't a bad thing.
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Old 09-03-14, 05:23 PM   #66
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Kind of depends. From what I've grown up with it always seemed like CM was bigger than Adam. That didn't stop Adam from being an ass kicker of CM. at times they were visually equals in size. Or even Adam bigger.

The Rock's size is fine. It will be interesting who they cast against him.
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Old 09-03-14, 05:29 PM   #67
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Not a fan of the New52 Billy/Shazam characterizations - A jerky kid becomes a jerky superhero. But then, I was never a fan of what DC did to Captain Marvel after the original Crisis either. From the 40s to the 80s, whenever Billy said "Shazam!," Captain Marvel took over and had his own personality. After the Crisis, Captain Marvel just became a kid in a grown-up body. I remember Roy Thomas rationalizing this decision in the "Shazam!: A New Beginning" mini-series in '86. But for me, some of the Captain's magic died that year.
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The Rock's size is fine. It will be interesting who they cast against him.




It's too bad Cena is such a stiff when it comes to acting...
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I haven't been a fan of it since like 1999, was 13, but every once in a while I catch it on a treadmill or something. I know Cena is popular but how good of a rassler is he?

I stopped watching it after my father passed. It was our thing but it didn't feel right anymore. Saying that... I still liked it but I enjoyed it more before it got "grittier" or whatnot in like 94 or 95. I dunno.

Is wrestling as popular as it was in the early 1990s as I remember from how much exposure it got into the mainstream?
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I haven't been a fan of it since like 1999, was 13, but every once in a while I catch it on a treadmill or something. I know Cena is popular but how good of a rassler is he?

I stopped watching it after my father passed. It was our thing but it didn't feel right anymore. Saying that... I still liked it but I enjoyed it more before it got "grittier" or whatnot in like 94 or 95. I dunno.

Is wrestling as popular as it was in the early 1990s as I remember from how much exposure it got into the mainstream?
Wrestling is at it's lowest point ever in my eyes.
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Old 09-03-14, 07:21 PM   #71
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C'mon, don't discount the Doink the Clown years.

I thought of suggesting Cena when I first responded about needing someone the Rock's size.

For some reason I had completely forgotten that Captain Marvel had a different personality than Batson, I always though Batson just matured when he got all the powers, which included wisdom among other traits. That makes it even more like Marvel's original Captain Marvel, where Rick Jones basically just traded places with Marvell... was that intentional?

In the original, what was so special about Billy that he was chosen to get the power, if he didn't even have control anyway?
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Old 09-03-14, 08:06 PM   #72
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93-95 WWF was bad, but yea, it's much much worse right now. Evil Doink was pretty entertaining.
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I think it was a necessary move after Alan Moore took the concept to its logical limits in Miracleman. DC was almost certainly responding to those ideas when they had Billy keep his personality in Marvel's body.

Read this treatment that Alan Moore turned into DC, which heavily involved Captain Marvel for a planned Elseworlds story. They passed on it in the 1980s thinking it was too dark but one can tell many elements were later incorporated into Kingdom Come.

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Old 09-03-14, 08:28 PM   #74
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This is really off topic now, but his write up of Crisis is spot on, and mirrors what happened to me when they rebooted again in the new 52 (and also an excellent point about the Donner Superman movies):

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I believe this is dangerous for a couple of reasons. Firstly, by establishing the precedent of altering time, you are establishing an unconscious context for all stories that take place in the future, as well as for those which took place (or rather didn't take place) in the past. The readers of long standing, somewhere along the line, are going to have some slight feeling that all the stories that they followed avidly during their years of
involvement with the book have been in some way invalidated, that all those countless plotlines weren't leading to anything more than what is in some respects an arbitrary cut-off point.
By extension, the readers of today might well be left with the sensation that the stories they are currently reading are of less significance or moment because, after all, at some point ten years in the future some comic book omnipotent, be it an editor or the Spectre, can go back in time and erase the whole slate, ready to start again. I myself felt something similar at the end of the first Superman film, when he turns time back to save Lois. It ruined the small but genuine enjoyment that I'd got from that first movie and destroyed all credibility for any of the following sequels as far as I was concerned.
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This is really off topic now, but his write up of Crisis is spot on, and mirrors what happened to me when they rebooted again in the new 52 (and also an excellent point about the Donner Superman movies):
Continuity is a tricky subject. Just looking at Batman alone, the main Batman title had over 700 issues before the New 52 reboot. The Detective Comics title had over 800. You're looking at over 1,500 comics just from those two alone. That's not even counting all the other Batman spinoff titles such as Legends of the Dark Knight and Shadow of the Bat. Plus other Batfamily members such as Robin, Nightwing, and Batgirl have their own titles. The entire "Batverse" from 1939 to 2014 is thousands and thousands of comics. And that's just Batman. Not even counting Superman, Wonder Woman, or any other characters here.

There's no way you can keep all of that in continuity. You can't expect readers to read thousands of issues of backstory and be that well versed in Batman history just to read modern comics. (Even though Grant Morrison may have tried with his run on Batman.) So some of it HAS to be cleaned up to be accessible to new readers.
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