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Old 05-12-17, 08:28 PM
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

My fault that I haven't been following this too closely, but is this a direct sequel to Prometheus?
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

Originally Posted by mattysemo247
My fault that I haven't been following this too closely, but is this a direct sequel to Prometheus?

Yes.
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
Yes.
Yes, with the understanding that
Spoiler:
Scott intends the next movie to be a prequel to this, but a sequel to Prometheus, so if/when that comes out, Covenant will no longer be a direct sequel.
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

Originally Posted by Dan
Yes, with the understanding that
Spoiler:
Scott intends the next movie to be a prequel to this, but a sequel to Prometheus, so if/when that comes out, Covenant will no longer be a direct sequel.
Old 05-13-17, 12:44 PM
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

Don't forget that none of them are actually related to Alien despite being sequels to prequels of sidequel reboots of requels. It was planned that way since Ridley was a kid.

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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

Originally Posted by inri222
Ridley Scott Admits Fan Backlash Over Prometheus Influenced Alien: Covenant

http://io9.gizmodo.com/ridley-scott-...lue-1795126523

Originally Posted by Ridley Scott
It went straight up there, and we discovered from it that [the fans] were really frustrated. They wanted to see more of the original [monster] and I thought he was definitely cooked, with an orange in his mouth. So I thought: ‘Wow, OK, I’m wrong’.
I'm a big fan of Aliens and I never wanted nor expected to see the xenomorphs in Prometheus.

Were that many people really upset that Prometheus didn't feature the xenomorphs? I thought the film was heavily promoted as being a separate story from those other films.

But then again, I don't expect Ridley Scott to say the problem of Prometheus was the writing and the story. And the boring creatures.
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Originally Posted by Abob Teff
Don't forget that none of them are actually related to Alien despite being sequels to prequels of sidequel reboots of requels. It was planned that way since Ridley was a kid.

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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

What's the word on the 3D version of Alien: Covenant?

Prometheus had some of the best 3D l've seen in a live-action movie (I rank it alongside Avatar and Hugo for best use of 3D by a filmmaker), but with 3D seeming to be more post-production now, is Alien: Covenant worth seeing in 3D? Or will it be better in 2D, given how dark the lighting in the movie appears to be?
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

Originally Posted by inri222
Alien -
Aliens-
Alien 3 (Assembly Cut) -

Fuck everything else.
This, this, and this. (However, I think the theatrical cut of "Alien 3" is the better version.)
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

Originally Posted by dhmac
What's the word on the 3D version of Alien: Covenant?

Prometheus had some of the best 3D l've seen in a live-action movie (I rank it alongside Avatar and Hugo for best use of 3D by a filmmaker), but with 3D seeming to be more post-production now, is Alien: Covenant worth seeing in 3D? Or will it be better in 2D, given how dark the lighting in the movie appears to be?
There is no 3D version.
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

So what happens in Alien: Covenant, according to wikipedia, is...

Spoiler:

David killed Shaw by exposing her to a facehugger. Stupid writing, but that goes back to the ending of Prometheus. It's incredibly unrealistic that Shaw's character would trust David after everything he did. The android was pretty sadistic too, if I'm remembering correctly their exchanges after she was infected.

And the mysterious aliens/xenomorphs are just the result of of David's experiments, taking black goo and merging it with some wasps?

Damn.

How do you take all the crazy visuals of Giger's work and come up with something so pedestrian?

Maybe wikipedia's lying to me.



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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

I don't think I would dislike Prometheus so much if it wasn't set in the "Alien" universe.

The last fucking thing the Alien mythos needed was a bunch of "Ancient Aliens"-style woo-woo (having the space jockeys responsible for the creation of the human race) and the thing in brayzie's spoilered post.

The Aliens and Space Jockeys should remain mysterious. The more origins and explanations you tack on, the shittier they become.

Frankly, "Alien" is probably tne biggest clusterfuck of a franchise I've ever seen. Everything after Aliens has been a giant mis-step: The franchise-killing Alien3, the cloning nonsense from Resurrection, the awful AvP movies, and the ancient aliens nonsense in Prometheus.
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

Yeah, I just read the plot and am pretty disappointed. More black goo. Yes, that was exactly what we wanted, thanks, Ridley.

Spoiler:
Didn't like how easily David wiped out the Engineer homeworld. But hopefully, this is the last we hear of the Engineers...
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

I'm trying to understand the Alien3 references in this thread. Do you guys mean Alien vs Predator?
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara
I'm trying to understand the Alien3 references in this thread. Do you guys mean Alien vs Predator?
No ...

Old 05-14-17, 11:18 AM
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

I'm in London and saw it earlier today. Awful. The script is abysmal and the acting is terrible. Especially Billy Crudup. Ridley gave "Prometheus" a big fuck you with this. I truly hated this film.
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

Sounds like he's 2 for 2!
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

I don't care. Still looking forward to it. I liked Prometheus a lot more than most of you guys.
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

It's still at 74% on RT, and since I also didn't hate Prometheus it seems like this will be enjoyable. I'm still planning to see it.
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

Yeah, I'm still looking forward to it. Prometheus was disappointing as a fan of the franchise, but the levels of hate it gets is over-the-top.
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

Originally Posted by Troy Stiffler
I don't care. Still looking forward to it. I liked Prometheus a lot more than most of you guys.
Hey, I loved "Prometheus". And while I agree that the writing could have been better, I thought it was original. I also loved the cast, cinematography, and felt it had a pretty cool idea for a backstory. "Covenant" is just a bad rehash of the original "Alien". You don't give a shit about a single character, there is zero suspense and the gore is boring. The character Daniels is also no Ripley. Which I read is what Scott was going for.

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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

I got to say I am torn on this. I want to see it to encourage continuation of the franchise, but I don't want to encourage where this is going (quality-wise).

Honestly, the direction Scott is going is Prequel Trilogy levels of stupidity that soil a good thing. This needs a different creative vision. Scott has proven he has none.

His response to fan reaction seems to be to dumb it down even further rather than actually listen to the critiques.

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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

I've intermittently been reading this thread (for fear of spoilers) and so many fears of failure with this film, but no real mentioning of The Martian, a critical and box office success, and Prometheus didn't exactly lose money. In fact it made almost 1/2 billion worldwide. This is a very capable director, still, who usually has a very unique vision and extremely adept in the sci-fi genre. I enjoyed Prometheus, loved The Martian and can't wait for this...
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Re: Alien: Covenant (Prometheus 2) (D: Scott) S: Fassbender

Originally Posted by Daytripper
Hey, I loved "Prometheus". And while I agree that the writing could have been better, I thought it was original. I also loved the cast, cinematography, and felt it had a pretty cool idea for a backstory. "Covenant" is just a bad rehash of the original "Alien". You don't give a shit about a single character, there is zero suspense and the gore is boring. The character Daniels is also no Ripley. Which I read is what Scott was going for.
Oh, as someone who also loved Prometheus, that's a disappointing take.

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