Rifftrax Live: Starship Troopers August 15th
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Matters about as much as your comparison of it to Transformers.
Transformers never pretends to be more than what it is, unlike Starship Troopers. Sorry, but Starship Troopers pales in comparison to Paul Verhoeven's earlier and better examples of satire like Robocop and Total Recall. Terrible script and acting. Joyless to watch.
Transformers never pretends to be more than what it is, unlike Starship Troopers. Sorry, but Starship Troopers pales in comparison to Paul Verhoeven's earlier and better examples of satire like Robocop and Total Recall. Terrible script and acting. Joyless to watch.
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The Sandlot wasn't a hit. The others were, but a lot of them were very old Disney movies, and not a good risk for theatrical. Plus Disney mainly wanted to make easy cash while still releasing new product. That's usually their MO when it comes to animation, no?
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Well they should be able to make a few decent jokes at the bad acting, and actors in their late 20s early 30s playing teenagers.
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Re: Rifftrax Live: Starship Troopers August 15th
Matters about as much as your comparison of it to Transformers.
Transformers never pretends to be more than what it is, unlike Starship Troopers. Sorry, but Starship Troopers pales in comparison to Paul Verhoeven's earlier and better examples of satire like Robocop and Total Recall. Terrible script and acting. Joyless to watch.
Transformers never pretends to be more than what it is, unlike Starship Troopers. Sorry, but Starship Troopers pales in comparison to Paul Verhoeven's earlier and better examples of satire like Robocop and Total Recall. Terrible script and acting. Joyless to watch.
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While I agree that riffing a good movie can work, it still doesn't live up to classic MST3K episodes of awful movies. Part of the fun was not just the riffing, but watching an extremely bad movie unfold with bad acting, poor lighting and sound, goofy special effects, etc. I've enjoyed a couple of the Rifftrax commentaries of classic movies like Halloween, but I found others unwatchable, such as the Dark Knight. I enjoyed the movie so much I just wanted to watch it without the rifftrax, sure there were some funny jokes, but the overall experience was nothing like watching Manos the Hands of Fate for the first time.
Twilight would have been a great movie to riff because it is unintentionally corny, filled with bad acting, and bizarre moments. All of those moments are intentional in Starship Troopers, and the entire movie is rather tongue-in-cheek and satirical, that I worry that some of the riffs may fall flat. I'm sure there will be some funny moments, but for one of the live theater experiences I think it would be better to go with a genuinely, unintentionally awful film.
Twilight would have been a great movie to riff because it is unintentionally corny, filled with bad acting, and bizarre moments. All of those moments are intentional in Starship Troopers, and the entire movie is rather tongue-in-cheek and satirical, that I worry that some of the riffs may fall flat. I'm sure there will be some funny moments, but for one of the live theater experiences I think it would be better to go with a genuinely, unintentionally awful film.
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Re: Rifftrax Live: Starship Troopers August 15th
Matters about as much as your comparison of it to Transformers.
Transformers never pretends to be more than what it is, unlike Starship Troopers. Sorry, but Starship Troopers pales in comparison to Paul Verhoeven's earlier and better examples of satire like Robocop and Total Recall. Terrible script and acting. Joyless to watch.
Transformers never pretends to be more than what it is, unlike Starship Troopers. Sorry, but Starship Troopers pales in comparison to Paul Verhoeven's earlier and better examples of satire like Robocop and Total Recall. Terrible script and acting. Joyless to watch.
Whereas Starship Troopers is still pretty solid and the effects (especially the bugs) are great.
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How has Robocop not aged? I never thought the movie looked like it was in the near future. Everyone was dressed in 80s attire. I love the movie, but it's aged as well.
All movies "age", but Starship Troopers never held up.
Whereas Starship Troopers is still pretty solid and the effects (especially the bugs) are great.
The RiffTrax crew should have a field day with Casper Van Dien's performance alone.
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Twilight would have been a great movie to riff because it is unintentionally corny, filled with bad acting, and bizarre moments. All of those moments are intentional in Starship Troopers, and the entire movie is rather tongue-in-cheek and satirical, that I worry that some of the riffs may fall flat. I'm sure there will be some funny moments, but for one of the live theater experiences I think it would be better to go with a genuinely, unintentionally awful film.
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Sorry, I never had the feeling all the acting and drama was intentionally corn ball in Starship Troopers. Simply saying it all was is a cop out, considering some of the actors do well while others do not. The only satirical moments came from the news coverage and ppropaganda stuff. The aliens and action scenes are unintentionally awful.
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ST is going to be easy to riff on; every action scene, the character drama, and every speech made. Just wish I could go to this, I will be on vacation.
For all those wishing for a Twilight RiffTrax, they already did one years ago. Can't imagine it being any better than that one.
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Nah, it's actually pretty clever and biting satire. It probably helps though that I've read the Heinlein novel, so I can appreciate its subversion of his rather militaristic worldview.
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"They got us Johnny!"
So says the kids from Argentina.
Yeah, not clever at all.
Brack, how old are you and how old were you when you first saw the film?
So says the kids from Argentina.
Yeah, not clever at all.
Brack, how old are you and how old were you when you first saw the film?
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I saw it in theaters, I was 16. About 5 years older than the target audience.
Saw it again within the last year. Had the same reaction. It's just not clever. The aliens alone don't make any sense. Why are they using useless machine guns?
And I didn't see how the satire was biting. It was maybe 5-10 minutes of the movie. The rest was bad soap opera drama.
Saw it again within the last year. Had the same reaction. It's just not clever. The aliens alone don't make any sense. Why are they using useless machine guns?
And I didn't see how the satire was biting. It was maybe 5-10 minutes of the movie. The rest was bad soap opera drama.
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I saw it in theaters, I was 16. About 5 years older than the target audience.
Saw it again within the last year. Had the same reaction. It's just not clever. The aliens alone don't make any sense. Why are they using useless machine guns?
And I didn't see how the satire was biting. It was maybe 5-10 minutes of the movie. The rest was bad soap opera drama.
Saw it again within the last year. Had the same reaction. It's just not clever. The aliens alone don't make any sense. Why are they using useless machine guns?
And I didn't see how the satire was biting. It was maybe 5-10 minutes of the movie. The rest was bad soap opera drama.
Again, that was part of it.
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Part of what? An idiotic scenario? That's not clever or satirical. It's just lazy action sequences. You see nukes sporadically, then they get down to business with machine guns. You can only help to root for the bugs. Humans in this world are too stupid to live.
It doesn't matter how much I back up my opinions with what is on the screen, all you will do will use the "that was the point", no matter what.
By the way, I'm watching this on AMC as I write this. The action is just tedious and boring with the never-ending machine gun battles. Always was. Laughably bad. But that's part of it, right?
The action in Robocop and Total Recall was never boring.
It doesn't matter how much I back up my opinions with what is on the screen, all you will do will use the "that was the point", no matter what.
By the way, I'm watching this on AMC as I write this. The action is just tedious and boring with the never-ending machine gun battles. Always was. Laughably bad. But that's part of it, right?
The action in Robocop and Total Recall was never boring.
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I don't believe a movie is very satirical if the first half of the movie is mostly bad soap opera, and how that's necessary for the film. If it's necessary for an utterly predictable film, sure. Why aren't the Twilight films given the same treatment as them being a satire on fantasy romance?
I don't see many correlations to this movie and the 9/11 attacks. For one, the humans aren't attempting to occupy a country, but eradicate an alien species. We get one line from a tv news reporter about how the aliens may have been provoked. It's not like the humans are looking for WMDs that never existed.
The action is tedious and boring. That was the point? If it was, I don't care, because it's still just tedious and boring no matter how you dress it.
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I can't wait for these guys to Rifftrax Scary Movie. I bet they'd be great at pointing out all the crappy horror movie cliches.
I saw the ad for this last night and don't get how they could possibly think it would be a good idea to do a riff trax for a movie that is already an intentional riff on a genre.
I saw the ad for this last night and don't get how they could possibly think it would be a good idea to do a riff trax for a movie that is already an intentional riff on a genre.
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I can't wait for these guys to Rifftrax Scary Movie. I bet they'd be great at pointing out all the crappy horror movie cliches.
I saw the ad for this last night and don't get how they could possibly think it would be a good idea to do a riff trax for a movie that is already an intentional riff on a genre.
I saw the ad for this last night and don't get how they could possibly think it would be a good idea to do a riff trax for a movie that is already an intentional riff on a genre.
It really wasn't as intentional as many think here. The propaganda ads were, but nothing else fits within that narrative. Couldn't we just have one smart character? Is that too much to ask, if only to show how dumb everyone is?