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Evil Dead (Alvarez, 2013) El Reviews Thread
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If that's the case, the movie didn't follow its own rules. The body could be "purified" through fire, being buried alive, or dismemberment. The second method worked on Mia. If the entity at the end was the girl from the first scene, then the fire didn't work on her. PLUS -- didn't her father blow her head off while she was burning?
#52
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If that's the case, the movie didn't follow its own rules. The body could be "purified" through fire, being buried alive, or dismemberment. The second method worked on Mia. If the entity at the end was the girl from the first scene, then the fire didn't work on her. PLUS -- didn't her father blow her head off while she was burning?
#54
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I enjoyed the movie, but I wish they hadn't release the red band trailers only because it gave away a lot of the goriest stuff in movie when I saw it. Its still been great to watch it again on bluray.
#57
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Yea. Let's make an Evil Dead movie with Ash and Mia. Mia was pretty awesome. I think she could hold her ground against Ash. And then the movie will have to get into more fun mythos, with Ash entering.
Still thinking about the movie. I think that "fun" tone is what was missing from the movie. The story was small and confined to that cabin. Had they gone more into the fantasy elements, it could have been a more unique experience.
Still thinking about the movie. I think that "fun" tone is what was missing from the movie. The story was small and confined to that cabin. Had they gone more into the fantasy elements, it could have been a more unique experience.
#58
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Yea. Let's make an Evil Dead movie with Ash and Mia. Mia was pretty awesome. I think she could hold her ground against Ash. And then the movie will have to get into more fun mythos, with Ash entering.
Still thinking about the movie. I think that "fun" tone is what was missing from the movie. The story was small and confined to that cabin. Had they gone more into the fantasy elements, it could have been a more unique experience.
Still thinking about the movie. I think that "fun" tone is what was missing from the movie. The story was small and confined to that cabin. Had they gone more into the fantasy elements, it could have been a more unique experience.
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Levy has a good sense of comedic timing as evidenced in her TV show, so I have no doubt she and Campbell could deliver.
#60
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I would have creamed my jeans, had Ash shown up before the credits.
But the movie just wasn't going for that kind of fun.
But the movie just wasn't going for that kind of fun.
#61
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I finally saw Evil Dead. I didn't hate it but I didn't love it. I doubt I'll even remember it as time goes by. Perhaps my mistake was watching The Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2 before watching the remake because it became painfully obvious that Evil Dead has no identity. The best elements were all callbacks to the first two and that sucks because to hear Rob Tapert, Bruce Campbell, and Fede Álvarez talk about the remake, they swear it's different than the original.
First off, there is indeed an Ash character in Evil Dead. It's David. He's a total pussy, you'd expect him to be victim #2, and he even has to man up for the climax of the movie. That's exactly how Ash was in The Evil Dead. He even wears the same exact wardrobe as Bruce Campbell (with some minor embellishments). The only change is that
There's no tension or scares in this movie. And there was no real build up towards the book. Which is weird because in the original movie you have two supernatural occurrences in the first 9 minutes yet it feels earned. In the remake it felt more like "okay, we're gonna have this guy obsess over the book now so we can get this movie started".
On the subject of lack of buildup in Evil Dead, I get why they needed a cold open. Studios seem to demand it instead of having the eeriness and scares develop naturally. I suppose it's fear the audience will grow bored if there isn't gore in the opening minutes. However, the cold open just doesn't work. At first it looked like it might.
It would have been best to remove the entire cold open.
I won't complain much about the characters in Evil Dead since the characters in The Evil Dead were just as thinly developed.
The finale is awkward at best. As an avid fan of the series I recognized it as a combined nod to Henrietta and possessed Linda from Evil Dead 2, as well as the She-Bitch from Army Of Darkness but it felt out of place since it was somehow both over-the-top and anti-climactic.
Bad acting and low rent effects notwithstanding, The Evil Dead is very creative and still quite disturbing. Evil Dead was just gory. Heck, even the post credits scene of Evil Dead demonstrated a distinct lack of imagination.
Overall, it was meh.
First off, there is indeed an Ash character in Evil Dead. It's David. He's a total pussy, you'd expect him to be victim #2, and he even has to man up for the climax of the movie. That's exactly how Ash was in The Evil Dead. He even wears the same exact wardrobe as Bruce Campbell (with some minor embellishments). The only change is that
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There's no tension or scares in this movie. And there was no real build up towards the book. Which is weird because in the original movie you have two supernatural occurrences in the first 9 minutes yet it feels earned. In the remake it felt more like "okay, we're gonna have this guy obsess over the book now so we can get this movie started".
On the subject of lack of buildup in Evil Dead, I get why they needed a cold open. Studios seem to demand it instead of having the eeriness and scares develop naturally. I suppose it's fear the audience will grow bored if there isn't gore in the opening minutes. However, the cold open just doesn't work. At first it looked like it might.
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It would have been best to remove the entire cold open.
I won't complain much about the characters in Evil Dead since the characters in The Evil Dead were just as thinly developed.
The finale is awkward at best. As an avid fan of the series I recognized it as a combined nod to Henrietta and possessed Linda from Evil Dead 2, as well as the She-Bitch from Army Of Darkness but it felt out of place since it was somehow both over-the-top and anti-climactic.
Bad acting and low rent effects notwithstanding, The Evil Dead is very creative and still quite disturbing. Evil Dead was just gory. Heck, even the post credits scene of Evil Dead demonstrated a distinct lack of imagination.
Overall, it was meh.
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^ Fully agree with you on the opening. It served no purpose except to introduce characters we'll never hear from again.
I re-watched this yesterday - my second viewing - and I've gotta say it played better for me knowing its deficiencies ahead of time. It's still a pale imitation of Raimi's films, but they do change enough to make it feel like it isn't quite a remake.
If there's one thing I hate more than anything here, though, it's the stupid exposition provided by a BOOK. I'm so glad someone scrawled "burn the motherfucker" perfectly legibly so the audience knows what characters need to do. I loathe lazy writing.
I re-watched this yesterday - my second viewing - and I've gotta say it played better for me knowing its deficiencies ahead of time. It's still a pale imitation of Raimi's films, but they do change enough to make it feel like it isn't quite a remake.
If there's one thing I hate more than anything here, though, it's the stupid exposition provided by a BOOK. I'm so glad someone scrawled "burn the motherfucker" perfectly legibly so the audience knows what characters need to do. I loathe lazy writing.
#63
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It's kind of funny seeing everyone's predictions for what they're going to do next.
All you have to do is watch the special features and they will tell you all.
- There will be no Ash ever in these remakes/reimages
- The book was meant to be created to exist in multiple times periods (which is why there are multiple writings on each page) and it even relates to the original evil dead.
- Sam Rami is working on Army of Darkness 2 (yes, with Ash).
Of course - I could be wrong on all of the above but it came off as sounding pretty solid.
All you have to do is watch the special features and they will tell you all.
- There will be no Ash ever in these remakes/reimages
- The book was meant to be created to exist in multiple times periods (which is why there are multiple writings on each page) and it even relates to the original evil dead.
- Sam Rami is working on Army of Darkness 2 (yes, with Ash).
Of course - I could be wrong on all of the above but it came off as sounding pretty solid.
#64
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Okay. So don't pair them up. Then why have that tacked on ending with Ash? It's even more of a let down now.
Hasn't Army of Darkness 2 been in development since the late 90's?
Maybe the next remake will be more fun. Can't say I won't watch it.
Hasn't Army of Darkness 2 been in development since the late 90's?
Maybe the next remake will be more fun. Can't say I won't watch it.
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Another thing that bothered me is the score by Roque Baņos. On it's own, it's not a bad listen. But it doesn't fit the movie at all. In fact, it almost sounds as if he composed it for Drag Me To Hell (Evil Dead even does the whole opening/closing title card "accent" almost beat for beat as it was done in Drag Me To Hell), it got rejected for that movie and instead dumped on this one.
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Another thing that bothered me is the score by Roque Baņos. On it's own, it's not a bad listen. But it doesn't fit the movie at all. In fact, it almost sounds as if he composed it for Drag Me To Hell (Evil Dead even does the whole opening/closing title card "accent" almost beat for beat as it was done in Drag Me To Hell), it got rejected for that movie and instead dumped on this one.
I didn't care for the movie either. It was one of the bigger disappointments this year since it felt like a reboot they would've gotten right. The cameo at the end felt tacked on and totally unnecessary and out of place given the rest of the film.
Did they greenlight a sequel yet?
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For all the hype about the gore in the film, I'm shocked the series "Hannibal" is generally more extreme than most of the shock moments here.
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I see not only did they glorify tree rape during the con circuit and on the movie poster, but also on the Blu cover art. WTF? Is that the only thing that the studio thinks will sell this flick?
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It certainly was one of the most talked about scenes in the original but, from my initial reaction to viewing this back on VHS in the 80's, was it even a rape? I don't recall the branch penetrating Cheryl. Just like my girlfriend back then, she would moan like that with the right amount of pressure and a few quick strums of the guitar strings. I viewed it as an assault, not a rape. I think this scene has taken a life of its own.
BTW, here's Alvarez on the scene discussed:"This is not a classic being remade by a big studio, it's still his film. It's the guys from the original. I didn't write one scene and [the producer] asked "where's my raping tree?" So *types on the table and whistles* raping scene, there you go. But it has to be way more terrible than the original."
So the pervs from the original wanted it in, not Alvarez.
http://www.hollywood.com/news/movies...ginal?page=all
BTW, here's Alvarez on the scene discussed:"This is not a classic being remade by a big studio, it's still his film. It's the guys from the original. I didn't write one scene and [the producer] asked "where's my raping tree?" So *types on the table and whistles* raping scene, there you go. But it has to be way more terrible than the original."
So the pervs from the original wanted it in, not Alvarez.
http://www.hollywood.com/news/movies...ginal?page=all