Shazam

That's how I plan to go out as well.

sydonesia

I had just finished reading Bob Zmuda's excellent bio of Andy Kaufman around the time Man on the Moon came out which just made me dislike the movie even more with all the liberties they took. It's like they had a biopic storyline already in mind, and they just contorted Kaufman's life to make it fit into that preset notion.

dhmac

Definitely. Braveheart got almost everything wrong. A real shame because the actual history is so much better than the stuff they made up in the movie.

dugan

What was the most accurate movie about Wong Fei Hung?

bluetoast

Actually Zmuda's book itself was lambasted by people close to Kaufman.

But on the movie front, Kaufman's dad wrote an interesting piece from Kaufman's perspective about the movie:

http://andykaufman.jvlnet.com/realmotm.htm

Robert

Public Enemies - Besides Dillinger, all the on-screen deaths are inaccurate.

PopcornTreeCt

I don't know much about Andy Kaufman but I feel like the filmmakers did something similar with The Social Network. It felt like they had this sort of "power corrupts" fable in mind and framed Zuckerberg's story to fit that mold.

Ash Ketchum

I think only a Hong Kong historian would know this. I would doubt there's even been a film that's even remotely accurate. As someone who's seen a lot of Wong Fei-Hung movies, I would call your attention to one from 1973 called MASTER OF KUNG FU with Ku Feng, which portrays him as an adult. It was definitely less fanciful than the others, although I wouldn't know if that makes it any more accurate or not.

Groucho

Drunken Master, why not.

Spottedfeather

They did wear kilts back then. It was the pattern that they didn't use like they did later on. Back then, the richer the person had a more complicated pattern. It didn't mean a particular family until the 1700s.

Groucho

Amadeus takes a lot of liberties. It tells a good story, but I think a more fact-based film about Salieri and Mozart would be just as interesting.

Rypro 525

Ali, mainly in that it wasn't Howard Cossell who interviewed Clay after beating Sonny Liston

bluetoast

Wait but on the Brave special features, they went to Scotland and did extensive research, saying that people didn't wear Kilts in the film's time period (1066 or so) but put them in anyway.

Plus Wikipedia said it originated in the 1500s or so.

Spottedfeather

Braveheart took place in 1297 to 1314. They did have kilts at the time, but were rather plain. It was the richer people that had the plaid pattern on them. And the more money you had, the more intricate patterns you could have. The small kilt, (the little kilt that doesn't have the around the body sash), came about 1700. When they fought, they usually fought naked and painted blue.

RicP

Shawshank prison in the Novella and the movie was constructed at the end of the 19th century. A small prison in rural Maine built in the 1800s? I can certainly buy both of those things no problem. Oh, and it's fiction.

Shazam

They didn't have kilts back then, nor anything resembling them.

Lt Ripley

He doesn't understand the difference between subjective and objective. Do you expect him to understand a calendar?

Spottedfeather

Yes. They did have kilts. But the pattern showing what family you belonged to didn't start until about the 1700s. Of course they had kilts. They just didn't wear them in battle. Kilts have been in Scotland since Roman times. It's the small kilt without the body wrap part that didn't come around until the 1700s. They started in Ireland around 1000 A.D.

Howie2000

Also in rl they never lip synched to Aint No Mountain High Enough in the locker room. That was just something people were contractually obligated to do in feel good movies in the 90s and early 00's.

Shazam

What the flying fuck are you talking about? Where the hell did you learn history? What you recognize as Scottish culture didn't even exist in Roman times.

You're on the internet. Back up your facts. Or at the very fucking least read some fucking Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotlan...e_Roman_Empire

whoopdido

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=When+did+Scots+start+wearing+kilts

Ash Ketchum

I want the History Channel to show BRAVEHEART, followed by a debate between Shazam and Spottedfeather.

RichC2

I learned my history from this movie

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Mabuse

What's so inaccurate about it? The bare framework of the story seems accurate. A bunch of British officers in an officer’s camp did indeed dig tunnels to make a "great escape" and nearly all of them were caught and killed. Only three escaped. Even all the business about how they concealed the dirt and used their beds to shore up the tunnels and made counterfeit documents and fake German uniforms, that seems very Hollywood but really did happen.

You probably mean that it is inaccurate because prison conditions were actually much worse, and that would be true, but I think it’s beside the point.

Spottedfeather

You're saying Scotland didn't exist in Roman times ? What world are you living in ? As I've said, and you would know if you cared enough to read some actual history instead of just attacking people to attack them, they DID have kilts in the time of Braveheart. And they've had them since Roman times. The part you're talking about, this all holy Scottish culture you seem to know nothing about, the plaid, or tartan, pattern, denoting which family you belonged to, didn't start until the 1700s. I've backed up my facts instead of resorting to ridiculous name calling for absolutely no reason. And just to blow your mind even more, they had kilts in ancient egypt, too.