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Old 10-29-12, 02:23 PM
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Great Montages of the '80s

I watched the Monster Squad and Rocky 3 over the weekend. Both films with excellent montages (you know quickly cut sequences set to music that usually depicts the characters learning or preparing for some battle or the characters' rise to fame). The '80s truly were the decade of the musical montage. The director of Monster Squad even says during the commentary that he regrets the montage because it dates the film so much and that ever since seeing Team America and it's funny montage song he laughs at the scene.

It got me thinking about the history of the '80s montage.

What was the first film to have one? The first Rocky might be the prototype.

What were the best montages? I nominate Ghostbusters.

And please list all the great '80s montages you can think of.

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Rocky (1976) was definitely one of the first, although I don't know if it was THE first. I mean, if you want to get technical, you could call the ending of The Godfather (1972) a montage...but I'm not sure that's what we're looking for here.

I think my favorite Rocky montage is in the second film (1979).
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Rocky would pretty much dominate the montage category, Rocky IV was my favorite. The Karate Kid You're the Best montage is also good.
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Real Genius has a pretty good montage as well.
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Re: Great Montages of the '80s

The montage sequence goes back to the earliest days of film.

Rocky is from the mid 70's, and is a traditional montage as opposed to the 80's variety. That type of training montage had been around long before 'Rocky'.

Don't know the first proper 80's montage in a film, but I bet I've seen it.
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Rocky would pretty much dominate the montage category, Rocky IV was my favorite. The Karate Kid You're the Best montage is also good.
I think the song makes it a lot more cooler...otherwise..it's an average montage but the song...adds so much.
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Short and sweet.

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Re: Great Montages of the '80s

Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
The montage sequence goes back to the earliest days of film.

Rocky is from the mid 70's, and is a traditional montage as opposed to the 80's variety. That type of training montage had been around long before 'Rocky'.

Don't know the first proper 80's montage in a film, but I bet I've seen it.
Of course the very concept of montage is as old as the idea of editing, but the expositional/training montage is much newer. Wikipedia points out the classical predecessor of today's training montage was the "newspaper" and "train" montage. Where they show a newspaper press and the headlines come spinning out at the viewer or when they layer lots of shots of trains chugging around to depict travel.

I don't think Rocky's montage is traditional. I can't think of any montages before Rocky that are like an '80s montage. Maybe some earlier sports films.
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Check out Super Fly, it even has a credit for the "montage" (can't remember the name) near the middle of the film, which is actually just a bunch of dissolves of various still shots set to one of Curtis Mayfield's awesome songs. Like a lot of the movie, the cheapness of the production shows here, the first time I saw it a had to smile, it was so naive.

For a great send-up of the 1980s style montage, check out Wet Hot Americal Summer; although some people hate the movie, I found its intentional mash-ups of different comic styles, from slapstick to Andy Kaufman absurdity, to be brilliant.
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didn't The Last Dragon have an awesome one?
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Re: Great Montages of the '80s

Originally Posted by Mabuse
Of course the very concept of montage is as old as the idea of editing, but the expositional/training montage is much newer.
No it's not. Exposition in a timely fashion is the nature of the montage.

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Wikipedia points out the classical predecessor of today's training montage was the "newspaper" and "train" montage. Where they show a newspaper press and the headlines come spinning out at the viewer or when they layer lots of shots of trains chugging around to depict travel.
So you scanned a Wiki article on the topic? Okay...

Originally Posted by Mabuse
I don't think Rocky's montage is traditional. I can't think of any montages before Rocky that are like an '80s montage. Maybe some earlier sports films.
Yeah I just googled this stuff and saw where you got the idea it was 'Rocky' that began it all in the first place. Several articles mention that. That's not accurate. There were films decades back that did training montages. Hell the training was in montage style back in the 40's in film like 'The Sands of Iwo Jima'.

Now the fact that the people behind 'Rocky' made countless sequels that all hinged around getting to 'Rocky's training again to the music' in every sequel certainly developed that theme to an excessive degree, but if the first Rocky film had been left as an Oscar winning standalone American classic, that impact would not have been cemented in the American consciousness. It was the repetition in the sequels that became increasingly focused on retreading aspects of the first film like 'remember how you all liked Rocky training in the first film? HERE he trains EVEN HARDER to a new song!'. It was all studio sequel and marketing crap that developed that theme, not the original film. You could say the series of sequel films influenced the 80's montage, there's no doubt about that.
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Re: Great Montages of the '80s

So Doctor, what was the first '80s montage? I'll admit that Rocky doesn't exactly meet every criteria to be an '80s style montage, for one thing it doesn't use a pop song, so then what film really started it?
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Push it to the limit....

Rappers must just nod their heads during this scene.
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James Bond movie from the 60's OHMSS We Have All The Time In The World song.
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Re: Great Montages of the '80s

Originally Posted by Mabuse
So Doctor, what was the first '80s montage? I'll admit that Rocky doesn't exactly meet every criteria to be an '80s style montage, for one thing it doesn't use a pop song, so then what film really started it?
The opening of Rocky III (1982) may have started it ("Eye of the Tiger"). Then again, Flashdance (1983) had some influence as well. These were some of the first "montage as music video" that I remember seeing on screen.
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Although, technically the whole movie is a music video/montage:

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Re: Great Montages of the '80s

Teen Wolf had at least 3 I can think of.

Others that come to mind...

Over the Top
Revenge of the Nerds
Valley Girl
Summer School
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Not so much a montage but still..
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