Shooting in Colorado at DARK KNIGHT RISES screening
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If this had to happen why not at a Kardashians TV shoot?
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The New York Post found a Dark Knight comic with a gunman-in-a-movie theater scenario:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...sJkadLOePIOdtI
At the bottom of the article, you'll find the comic book panels being cited.
They're not saying it inspired the killer, just pointing out the parallel.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...sJkadLOePIOdtI
At the bottom of the article, you'll find the comic book panels being cited.
They're not saying it inspired the killer, just pointing out the parallel.
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This is a good story about Taking Back the Knight.
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Re: Shooting in Colorado at DARK KNIGHT RISES screening
The New York Post found a Dark Knight comic with a gunman-in-a-movie theater scenario:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...sJkadLOePIOdtI
At the bottom of the article, you'll find the comic book panels being cited.
They're not saying it inspired the killer, just pointing out the parallel.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...sJkadLOePIOdtI
At the bottom of the article, you'll find the comic book panels being cited.
They're not saying it inspired the killer, just pointing out the parallel.
The only "eerie similarity" is the media idiot referring to it as a batman inspired shootout.
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i'm not sure if it's been mentioned (i'm sure it has but i've been day drinking and don't feel like reading the whole thread) but does anyone find it crazy that columbine high school is only 20 miles away?
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Yes. Doesn't shock me. It was probably a big thing for the kid. And when that kind of thing is "normalized" in a kid's head, it makes it easier to do. Just like when parents are alcoholics, drug users, adulterous, abusive, etc. Or if you grow up in a bad neighborhood, you become like the bad people around you.
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i'm saying...the location is irrelevant. Could Columbine have an impact on him? sure, why not? Does it, i don't know. A shooting 20 miles away from something like that isn't amazing in the grand scheme of things. Merely coincidence. That's it. I'm not downplaying the impact of lives lost. But...it's not amazing to me.
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Yes. Doesn't shock me. It was probably a big thing for the kid. And when that kind of thing is "normalized" in a kid's head, it makes it easier to do. Just like when parents are alcoholics, drug users, adulterous, abusive, etc. Or if you grow up in a bad neighborhood, you become like the bad people around you.
i'm saying...the location is irrelevant. Could Columbine have an impact on him? sure, why not? Does it, i don't know. A shooting 20 miles away from something like that isn't amazing in the grand scheme of things. Merely coincidence. That's it. I'm not downplaying the impact of lives lost. But...it's not amazing to me.
Coincidences happen. I do wish he had picked on another state though.
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Christian Bale visits with some of the victims today:
http://www.denverpost.com/theatersho...ctims-shooting
http://www.denverpost.com/theatersho...ctims-shooting
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Christian Bale visits with some of the victims today:
http://www.denverpost.com/theatersho...ctims-shooting
http://www.denverpost.com/theatersho...ctims-shooting
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And HEY, don't lump all of us in San Jose with that one guy haha. How dare you.
And yes, Christian Bale is cool.
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Colorado movie theater shooting suspect offers guilty plea
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/27...#ixzz2OmjAqrqR
Colorado theater shooting suspect James Holmes has offered to plead guilty and serve the rest of his life in prison to avoid the death penalty -- a deal that would bring a swift end to the sometimes wrenching courtroom battle and circumvent a prolonged debate over his sanity.
Prosecutors haven't said whether they would accept the offer, and victims and survivors of last summer's massacre were divided on what should be done.
Melisa Cowden, whose ex-husband was killed in the theater, said Wednesday she was resolutely opposed to a plea deal.
"He didn't give 12 people the chance to plea bargain and say, `Let's see if you're going to shoot me or not,"' said Cowden, whose two teenage daughters were with their father when he was killed.
"No. No plea bargain," she said.
The attack during a crowded midnight showing of "The Dark Knight Rises" left a dozen people dead and 70 injured.
Prosecutors have said Holmes planned the assault for months, casing the theater complex in the Denver suburb of Aurora, amassing a small arsenal and rigging potentially deadly booby-traps in his apartment.
Then on July 20, he donned a police-style helmet and body armor, tossed a gas canister into the theater crowd and opened fire, prosecutors said.
The plea offer, made by Holmes' lawyers on his behalf earlier this month, was disclosed a defense court filing on Wednesday. It was made public just days before the prosecution was set to announce whether they would seek the death penalty.
The filing didn't include the specifics of the offer. It said only that Holmes would agree to life in prison without parole -- instead of the death penalty -- and didn't mention any other concessions.
Pierce O'Farrill, who was shot three times, said he would welcome an agreement that would imprison Holmes for life. The years of court struggles ahead would likely be emotionally stressful for victims, he said.
"I don't see his death bringing me peace," O'Farrill said. "To me, my prayer for him was that he would spend the rest of his life in prison and hopefully, in all those years he has left, he could find God and ask for forgiveness himself."
Tom Sullivan, whose son Alex was killed, said he has wanted prosecutors to pursue the death penalty. But he said he wouldn't object to a plea agreement if it avoided a lengthy court battle -- and if Holmes got no privileges in prison.
"That was kind of a sore point with us," he said, referring to privileges such as outside exercise or listening to music. "We didn't think this kind of person should have any kind of privileges except the bare essentials."
Holmes, a former graduate student at the University of Colorado, Denver, had seen a psychiatrist at the school before the shootings.
His lawyers have said he was taken to a hospital psychiatric ward in November because he was considered a threat to himself. Holmes was held there for several days and spent much of the time in restraints.
In their court filing, Holmes' lawyers again said they were exploring a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity and would mount a vigorous defense if prosecutors rejected the plea offer and the case goes to trial.
Holmes was widely expected to enter an insanity plea at his arraignment on March 12, but his attorneys told District Judge William Sylvester they had too many questions about the constitutionality of Colorado's death penalty and insanity statutes to advise Holmes on how to plead.
Sylvester then entered a plea of not guilty on Holmes' behalf but said he could change it later to insanity if he chose.
The judge scheduled the trial to start Aug. 5, setting aside four weeks.
Doug Wilson, who heads the state public defenders' office, told The Associated Press Wednesday that prosecutors haven't responded to the offer. He didn't know whether prosecutors had relayed the offer with any victims as required by state law.
Prosecutors declined to comment on Wednesday.
Dan Recht, a past president of the Colorado Criminal Defense Bar, said prosecutors likely started talking to victims long ago.
"The defense, by making this public pleading, is reaching out to the victims' families," Recht said.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/27...#ixzz2OmjAqrqR
Colorado theater shooting suspect James Holmes has offered to plead guilty and serve the rest of his life in prison to avoid the death penalty -- a deal that would bring a swift end to the sometimes wrenching courtroom battle and circumvent a prolonged debate over his sanity.
Prosecutors haven't said whether they would accept the offer, and victims and survivors of last summer's massacre were divided on what should be done.
Melisa Cowden, whose ex-husband was killed in the theater, said Wednesday she was resolutely opposed to a plea deal.
"He didn't give 12 people the chance to plea bargain and say, `Let's see if you're going to shoot me or not,"' said Cowden, whose two teenage daughters were with their father when he was killed.
"No. No plea bargain," she said.
The attack during a crowded midnight showing of "The Dark Knight Rises" left a dozen people dead and 70 injured.
Prosecutors have said Holmes planned the assault for months, casing the theater complex in the Denver suburb of Aurora, amassing a small arsenal and rigging potentially deadly booby-traps in his apartment.
Then on July 20, he donned a police-style helmet and body armor, tossed a gas canister into the theater crowd and opened fire, prosecutors said.
The plea offer, made by Holmes' lawyers on his behalf earlier this month, was disclosed a defense court filing on Wednesday. It was made public just days before the prosecution was set to announce whether they would seek the death penalty.
The filing didn't include the specifics of the offer. It said only that Holmes would agree to life in prison without parole -- instead of the death penalty -- and didn't mention any other concessions.
Pierce O'Farrill, who was shot three times, said he would welcome an agreement that would imprison Holmes for life. The years of court struggles ahead would likely be emotionally stressful for victims, he said.
"I don't see his death bringing me peace," O'Farrill said. "To me, my prayer for him was that he would spend the rest of his life in prison and hopefully, in all those years he has left, he could find God and ask for forgiveness himself."
Tom Sullivan, whose son Alex was killed, said he has wanted prosecutors to pursue the death penalty. But he said he wouldn't object to a plea agreement if it avoided a lengthy court battle -- and if Holmes got no privileges in prison.
"That was kind of a sore point with us," he said, referring to privileges such as outside exercise or listening to music. "We didn't think this kind of person should have any kind of privileges except the bare essentials."
Holmes, a former graduate student at the University of Colorado, Denver, had seen a psychiatrist at the school before the shootings.
His lawyers have said he was taken to a hospital psychiatric ward in November because he was considered a threat to himself. Holmes was held there for several days and spent much of the time in restraints.
In their court filing, Holmes' lawyers again said they were exploring a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity and would mount a vigorous defense if prosecutors rejected the plea offer and the case goes to trial.
Holmes was widely expected to enter an insanity plea at his arraignment on March 12, but his attorneys told District Judge William Sylvester they had too many questions about the constitutionality of Colorado's death penalty and insanity statutes to advise Holmes on how to plead.
Sylvester then entered a plea of not guilty on Holmes' behalf but said he could change it later to insanity if he chose.
The judge scheduled the trial to start Aug. 5, setting aside four weeks.
Doug Wilson, who heads the state public defenders' office, told The Associated Press Wednesday that prosecutors haven't responded to the offer. He didn't know whether prosecutors had relayed the offer with any victims as required by state law.
Prosecutors declined to comment on Wednesday.
Dan Recht, a past president of the Colorado Criminal Defense Bar, said prosecutors likely started talking to victims long ago.
"The defense, by making this public pleading, is reaching out to the victims' families," Recht said.
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Re: Shooting in Colorado at DARK KNIGHT RISES screening
Then on July 20, he donned a police-style helmet and body armor, tossed a gas canister into the theater crowd and opened fire, prosecutors said.
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Maybe someone with legal experience can answer this for me. If the defense is offering a guilty plea for life in prison and if the prosecution chooses NOT to accept their offer how can the defense then continue the trial with a possible insanity defense? Haven't they just admitted that he wasn't insane with their guilty plea?
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It isn't misreported. Prosecutors keep saying that he was. Either the prosecutors are wrong (and Holmes' attorneys aren't objecting) or he was wearing body armor in addition to the tactical vest.
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Also, he never used the AR15, it was found in his trunk after the shooting.