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The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

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Old 07-17-12, 04:45 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Reminds me of when TITANIC ripped off SOMEWHERE IN TIME's ending and no critic noticed.
So I guess a ship sinks at the end of SOMEWHERE IN TIME (?)

(I've never seen it)
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Heath Ledger has gotten beaucoup accolades for his performance--and rightfully so.

But, I think Gary Oldman needs just about the equivalent recognition for his work. Oldman just disappears into the part (as he often does). Morgan Freeman? He's good of course, but my brain registers Morgan Freeman not Lucius Fox. With Oldman, he really is Commissioner Jim Gordon. It's outstanding work.
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"I gotta get me one a' those!"
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Originally Posted by dhmac
So I guess a ship sinks at the end of SOMEWHERE IN TIME (?)

(I've never seen it)
In SOMEWHERE IN TIME the man dies at a young age and sees his woman love in the afterlife also at young age.
In TITANIC the old woman dies and turns young and sees her love at young in afterlife.
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Originally Posted by trespoochies
Best review yet.
I can live if this movie is on par with SPIDER-MAN 3 and not GODFATHER 3.
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Originally Posted by wm lopez
I can live if this movie is on par with SPIDER-MAN 3 and not GODFATHER 3.
From what I've been hearing: it's about as upbeat as Alien 3.
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oh my god it's at 86% on RT what are we gonna do now?
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

Let the bitching begin! Nolanites. Fanboys. Not dark enough. Too dark and drab. Nolan's team can't direct action right. The Dark Night was only good because Heath Leger is dead. Rich guy in tights fighting crime? Pft. Grammatical error you suck!

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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

I still don't see how there are only 48 reviews out at this point. Thought there would be more around.
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Originally Posted by redrum
oh my god it's at 86% on RT what are we gonna do now?
RT is not exactly an omniscient pillar of cinematic taste--Star Trek (2009) has a 91% (which I think is the highest ranking for a Michael Bay movie)
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by dhmac
So I guess a ship sinks at the end of SOMEWHERE IN TIME (?)

(I've never seen it)
OMG, I can't believe I have to explain this, so here goes: The death of Rose and the afterlife reuinion with Jack are a total ripoff of the death of Richard Collier and the afterlife reunion with Elise McKenna, just as (supposedly) the death of Batman and the TALE OF TWO CITIES rememberance by Alfred are (assuming it happens in TDKR) a total ripoff of the death of Spock and the TALE OF TWO CITIES rememberance by Kirk.

Of course, most of you will say it's a coincidence or a homage...that's what you say in Hollywood when you steal other people's ideas.
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RT is not exactly an omniscient pillar of cinematic taste--Star Trek (2009) has a 91% (which I think is the highest ranking for a Michael Bay movie)
Star Trek is not a Michael Bay movie.
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
OMG, I can't believe I have to explain this, so here goes: The death of Rose and the afterlife reuinion with Jack are a total ripoff of the death of Richard Collier and the afterlife reunion with Elise McKenna, just as
Spoiler:
(supposedly) the death of Batman and the TALE OF TWO CITIES rememberance by Alfred are (assuming it happens in TDKR) a total ripoff of the death of Spock and the TALE OF TWO CITIES rememberance by Kirk.


Of course, most of you will say it's a coincidence or a homage...that's what you say in Hollywood when you steal other people's ideas.
Do you not know how to use spoiler tags or do you just not give a shit because this isn't 'The Hunger Games'?

Putting "(supposedly)" before something does not negate you from having to use spoiler tags when you are "(supposedly)" and (very fucking possibly) spoiling the ending of the fucking movie.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by PatD
RT is not exactly an omniscient pillar of cinematic taste--Star Trek (2009) has a 91% (which I think is the highest ranking for a Michael Bay movie)
You can turn in your DVDTALK membership at the door. Seriously?

Everyone knows Star Trek (2009) was directed by Joss Whedon.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

I was joking

Who cares what the RT rating is, movie is gonna be amazing
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Originally Posted by redrum
I was joking

Who cares what the RT rating is, movie is gonna be amazing
Deciding you'll like the movie before you see it? I like that attitude!

Wait a minute, no I don't.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo
Star Trek is not a Michael Bay movie.


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Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo
Star Trek is not a Michael Bay movie.
Not officially. But, if he was credited as director three years ago, could anyone really tell?
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Not officially. But, if he was credited as director three years ago, could anyone really tell?
Yes, as long as there weren't an idiot. There's a world of difference between JJ Abrams and Michael Bay.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

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Not officially. But, if he was credited as director three years ago, could anyone really tell?
Of course. If Bay had directed it there wouldn't have been as many lens flares.
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Of course. If Bay had directed it there wouldn't have been as many lens flares.
Zing!
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

Hey, here's an idea, let's use The Dark Knight Rises review thread to bash a wholly unrelated film.

Or we could, you know, talk about The Dark Knight Rises. Just saw it and loved it. I'll keep the comments to a minimum until Thursday night, but y'all are in for one hell of a ride, especially in IMAX.
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Hey, here's an idea, let's use The Dark Knight Rises review thread to bash a wholly unrelated film.

Or we could, you know, talk about The Dark Knight Rises. Just saw it and loved it. I'll keep the comments to a minimum until Thursday night, but y'all are in for one hell of a ride, especially in IMAX.
My bad. Sorry.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

you guys are almost forcing me to review this movie...

word of advice.... watch it on IMAX first... Its one an incredible epic movie.... epic is a word to describe this film and is a fitting end to the trilogy... you wont be dissappointed ... this is the movie of the year
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread

Roger Ebert's 3 star (positive) review:

The Dark Knight Rises

BY ROGER EBERT / July 17, 2012

"The Dark Knight Rises" leaves the fanciful early days of the superhero genre far behind, and moves into a doom-shrouded, apocalyptic future that seems uncomfortably close to today's headlines. As urban terrorism and class warfare envelop Gotham and its infrastructure is ripped apart, Bruce Wayne (Christian Bale) emerges reluctantly from years of seclusion in Wayne Manor and faces a soulless villain as powerful as he is. The film begins slowly with a murky plot and too many new characters, but builds to a sensational climax.

The result, in Christopher Nolan's conclusion to his Batman trilogy, is an ambitious superhero movie with two surprises: It isn't very much fun, and it doesn't have very much Batman. I'm thinking of the over-the-top action sequences of the earlier films that had a subcurrent of humor, and the exhilarating performance of Heath Ledger as the Joker. This movie is all serious drama, with a villain named Bane whose Hannibal Lecterish face-muzzle robs him of personality. And although we see a good deal of Bruce Wayne, his alter-ego Batman makes only a few brief appearances before the all-out climax.

Bane, played by Tom Hardy in a performance evoking a homicidal pro wrestler, is a mystery because it's hard to say what motivates him. He releases thousands of Gotham's criminals in a scenario resembling the storming of the Bastille. As they face off against most of the city police force in street warfare, Bane's goal seems to be the overthrow of the ruling classes. But this would prove little if his other plan (the nuclear annihilation of the city) succeeds.

Bane stages two other sensational set pieces, involving destroying the Stock Exchange and blowing up a football stadium, that seemed aimed at our society's twin gods of money and pro sports. No attempt is made to account for Bane's funding and resources, and when it finally comes down to Bane and Batman going mano-a-mano during a street fight, it involves an anticlimactic fist-fight. He blows up the city's bridges and to top that lands a right hook on Batman's jaw?

Bane is the least charismatic of the Batman villains, but comes close to matching Bruce Wayne and Batman in screen time. The film also supplies a heroic young cop (Joseph Gordon-Levitt), two potential romantic partners for Wayne, and lots of screen time for series regulars Alfred the Butler (Michael Caine, remarkably effective in several trenchant scenes), Commissioner Gordon (Gary Oldman) and the genius inventor Lucius Fox (Morgan Freeman).

One of the women is the always enigmatic Catwoman (Anne Hathaway), and the other is Miranda Tate (Marion Cotillard), a millionaire who may be able to rescue Wayne Enterprises after Bane's stock market mischief wipes out Wayne financially. Catwoman is a freelance burglar who's always looking out for number one, and Miranda is a do-gooder environmentalist; both are drawn irresistibly to Bruce, who is not only still a bachelor but has spent the last eight years as a hermit, walled up in Wayne Manor with the loyal Alfred.

All of these characters and their activities produce stretches in the first half of the film during which, frankly, I was not entirely sure who was doing what and with which and to whom. The movie settles in for its sensational second half, however, although not everybody will be able to precisely explain the deep stone well where Bane prisons Bruce Wayne. The circular walls of this well represent a deadly climbing wall by which anyone can try to reach freedom, but few succeed. The actual location is in Jodhpur, Rajasthan, India, and we get a glimpse of some zigzagging stairs that are unforgettably shown in "Baraka." Turns out Bane was held there as a child.

This is a dark and heavy film; it tests the weight a superhero movie can bear. That Nolan is able to combine civil anarchy, mass destruction and a Batcycle with exercise-ball tires is remarkable. That he does it without using 3D is admirable. That much of it was shot in the 70mm IMAX format allows it to make that giant screen its own. That it concludes the trilogy is inevitable; how much deeper can Nolan dig? It lacks the near-perfection of "The Dark Knight" (2008), it needs more clarity and a better villain, but it's an honorable finale.


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