SPECTRE (Bond 24) (2015, D: Mendes) S: Craig, Waltz, Bellucci, Fiennes, Bautista
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I'm sorry you guys didn't like Skyfall. I really enjoyed it, and if the same team can do at least as good a job on the next film, I think it'll be another great entry into the series.
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The directing was fine as well as the acting. The script however was very poor. That's what keeps Skyfall from being great and leaves it as merely good.
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This is the camp I'm in as well - SKYFALL is in my top two or three Bonds ever, and I've never gotten the love for CASINO ROYALE (strong first hour, but the second half is a MESS).
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I really enjoyed Skyfall, but I also thought Casino Royale was a bit overrated. The 3rd act really drags and there wasn't much chemistry between Craig and Green. It got praised for innovation in things which had actually been before: romantic tragedy(On Her Majesty's Secret Service) and dark grittiness(License to Kill). It was a huge improvement on Die Another Day, though. I also felt like QoS got a lot of crap, when I thought it was an entertaining entry in the franchise with much better pacing than Casino Royale.
Skyfall was very solid, but again, it dragged a bit in the final act and was just a tad overlong. I didn't really like the fact that they gave Bond a backstory and tried to make it realistic, but then had all of these homages to previous Bond films. They wanted to wink at the audience and play it straight at the same time. The end treats the film as a prequel and a sequel at the same time, like some sort of weird paradox. Despite that, still a very enjoyable film, like all of the Craig Bond films.
Skyfall was very solid, but again, it dragged a bit in the final act and was just a tad overlong. I didn't really like the fact that they gave Bond a backstory and tried to make it realistic, but then had all of these homages to previous Bond films. They wanted to wink at the audience and play it straight at the same time. The end treats the film as a prequel and a sequel at the same time, like some sort of weird paradox. Despite that, still a very enjoyable film, like all of the Craig Bond films.
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I didn't care that much for Skyfall either, although I did like how things were set up by the end of the movie. Hoping Mendes can expand on that, or explore something like Quantum.
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I didn't realize there was such a divide over Skyfall. With the reviews, I had figured it was almost universally praised.
It's my second favorite Bond film behind GoldenEye.
It's my second favorite Bond film behind GoldenEye.
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Craig finishes a bag of chips and, having exhausted Pinter, is happy to chat about Bond. At the end of Betrayal’s fourteen-week run, he’ll be starting the next 007 film, once more with director Sam Mendes. Skyfall was an intense collaboration. The idea was always that Judi Dench’s M would die—a downer lifted by a late “humor pass” on the script. During filming they added more jokes. The shot where Bond leaps atop a speeding train in pursuit of a killer and straightens his cuffs: That came to Craig practically in mid-flight. “He’s really fucking hurt himself jumping on top of a train,” he says, “and he just wants to straighten himself up. That’s what it’s about: poise. To be more concerned about the way you look at the moment of crisis. The weirder the place it comes from the better it is.”
He had them reset the train (it took an hour) and do another take. Presto: an iconic image.
Craig’s Bond suffered mightily in three films but was, in effect, born again at the end of Skyfall—ready to take on the trappings and suits of 007 with less chafing. “Hopefully we’ll reclaim some of the old irony,” he says, “and make sure it doesn’t become pastiche. I can’t do shtick, I’m not very good at it. Unless it kind of suddenly makes sense. Does that make sense? I sometimes wish I hammed it up more, but I just can’t do it very well, so I don’t do it.”
He had them reset the train (it took an hour) and do another take. Presto: an iconic image.
Craig’s Bond suffered mightily in three films but was, in effect, born again at the end of Skyfall—ready to take on the trappings and suits of 007 with less chafing. “Hopefully we’ll reclaim some of the old irony,” he says, “and make sure it doesn’t become pastiche. I can’t do shtick, I’m not very good at it. Unless it kind of suddenly makes sense. Does that make sense? I sometimes wish I hammed it up more, but I just can’t do it very well, so I don’t do it.”
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It's hard to follow Connery in that department. We've become accustomed to the way his Bond could pull that off convincingly. You knew he was a badass, but yet he could laugh at himself/situations, also.
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I'd say Connery had it easier with the humor due to tone involved. Not to discredit it. Good times.
I'm pretty damn excited for this new Bond film. LOVED the last one.
I'm pretty damn excited for this new Bond film. LOVED the last one.
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I wonder how many young folk will assume he's a ripoff of Doctor Evil.
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If Bryan Cranston doesn't play Lex Luthor, he would be a good fit.
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Blofeld was killed off in For Your Eyes Only. The time line of the Craig Bond movies are a total mess, is it a reboot, prequel, or sequel? Yes. Casino Royale features a new Bond, but Skyfall plays like a sequel to the original franchise, showing Bond recognizing the Aston Martin from Goldfinger. So that would put Skyfall in the same canon of the other movies, where Blofeld is already dead. Bah, this is what happens when you try to make Bond realistic and gritty, it's great until you want to start including those fun winks that acknowledge the previous movies. It's a lot easier to brush stuff like this off when you have Lazenby breaking the fourth wall and Roger Moore fighting a midget.
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Blofeld was killed off in For Your Eyes Only. The time line of the Craig Bond movies are a total mess, is it a reboot, prequel, or sequel? Yes. Casino Royale features a new Bond, but Skyfall plays like a sequel to the original franchise, showing Bond recognizing the Aston Martin from Goldfinger. So that would put Skyfall in the same canon of the other movies, where Blofeld is already dead. Bah, this is what happens when you try to make Bond realistic and gritty, it's great until you want to start including those fun winks that acknowledge the previous movies. It's a lot easier to brush stuff like this off when you have Lazenby breaking the fourth wall and Roger Moore fighting a midget.
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Blofeld was killed off in For Your Eyes Only. The time line of the Craig Bond movies are a total mess, is it a reboot, prequel, or sequel? Yes. Casino Royale features a new Bond, but Skyfall plays like a sequel to the original franchise, showing Bond recognizing the Aston Martin from Goldfinger. So that would put Skyfall in the same canon of the other movies, where Blofeld is already dead. Bah, this is what happens when you try to make Bond realistic and gritty, it's great until you want to start including those fun winks that acknowledge the previous movies. It's a lot easier to brush stuff like this off when you have Lazenby breaking the fourth wall and Roger Moore fighting a midget.
You can assume Craig's Bond got the Aston Martin from another untold adventure that wasn't Goldfinger, and move on from there. And if you want winky formula, you can always watch the Moore and Brosnan flicks.
Last edited by Hokeyboy; 11-16-13 at 10:44 AM.