Directors you've fallen out of love with?
02-24-12, 10:08 PM
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I didn't care about the characters nor the story for that matter, Javier Bardem as the antagonist just irked me to no avail - I didn't know whether to cringe or just laugh at his performance - and that ending or non-ending - just utterly pretentious. This movie ranks with Crash (Paul Haggis), Cronenberg's Spider and Chasing Amy as movies where I felt like I wasted two hours of my life.
02-24-12, 10:27 PM
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I didn't care about the characters nor the story for that matter, Javier Bardem as the antagonist just irked me to no avail - I didn't know whether to cringe or just laugh at his performance - and that ending or non-ending - just utterly pretentious. This movie ranks with Crash (Paul Haggis), Cronenberg's Spider and Chasing Amy as movies where I felt like I wasted two hours of my life.
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02-25-12, 03:06 PM
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02-25-12, 04:57 PM
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02-25-12, 05:25 PM
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That's why I left Tarantino out of my criticisms. He's essentially making genre pastiche films that wear their inspirations on their sleeves. He's not hiding behind some hoary "bold artistic statement" BS. Plus he has a sense of humor about it all. That's a bit easier to take than those other guys who seem to really think they are Altman/Bergman/Kubrick/etc all rolled into one.
02-25-12, 05:51 PM
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George Lucas. I can forgive Romero and Argento for making bad movies, but Lucas is dead in my eyes.
02-25-12, 06:26 PM
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Another vote for Oliver Stone. From Platoon-Nixon, definitely my favorite director. From U Turn on....terrible.
To add a new name I'll throw out John McTiernan. Predator, Die Hard, and The Hunt for Red October are all great movies. Then came Medicine Man and all the shit that followed.
To add a new name I'll throw out John McTiernan. Predator, Die Hard, and The Hunt for Red October are all great movies. Then came Medicine Man and all the shit that followed.
02-25-12, 07:03 PM
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It's not that they can't be great directors because of their life experiences...it's the kind of films they make. Who the fuck is Aronofski to make such a pompous statement as The Fountain, or Anderson and Magnolia? These guys are full of shit. They should be making genre films. At least they would be genuine.
That's why I left Tarantino out of my criticisms. He's essentially making genre pastiche films that wear their inspirations on their sleeves. He's not hiding behind some hoary "bold artistic statement" BS. Plus he has a sense of humor about it all. That's a bit easier to take than those other guys who seem to really think they are Altman/Bergman/Kubrick/etc all rolled into one.
That's why I left Tarantino out of my criticisms. He's essentially making genre pastiche films that wear their inspirations on their sleeves. He's not hiding behind some hoary "bold artistic statement" BS. Plus he has a sense of humor about it all. That's a bit easier to take than those other guys who seem to really think they are Altman/Bergman/Kubrick/etc all rolled into one.
02-25-12, 08:07 PM
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It's not that they can't be great directors because of their life experiences...it's the kind of films they make. Who the fuck is Aronofski to make such a pompous statement as The Fountain, or Anderson and Magnolia? These guys are full of shit. They should be making genre films. At least they would be genuine.
02-25-12, 10:31 PM
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Cameron Crowe~Really enjoyed the 1-2 punch of Jerry Maguire and Almost Famous, then he crapped out from that point on.
Steven Soderbergh~Loved Out of Sight, Traffic, Erin Brockovich, then I didn't care very much for his Solaris remake so I ignored everything after that (Didn't want to be bothered with the hottie fest of the Ocean's Eleven franchise)
Also hate M. Night, Tim Burton, Oliver Stone, Kevin Smith (Though I still love Clerks and the 4-hour lecture where he tells funny stories)
Woody Allen~I miss his old style (Bananas, Sleeper, Love and Death)
Steven Soderbergh~Loved Out of Sight, Traffic, Erin Brockovich, then I didn't care very much for his Solaris remake so I ignored everything after that (Didn't want to be bothered with the hottie fest of the Ocean's Eleven franchise)
Also hate M. Night, Tim Burton, Oliver Stone, Kevin Smith (Though I still love Clerks and the 4-hour lecture where he tells funny stories)
Woody Allen~I miss his old style (Bananas, Sleeper, Love and Death)
02-26-12, 12:43 AM
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I agree with the Kevin Smith mention. I still like his first few films, but his films from the last ten years just aren't as clever or biting, and since he started smoking pot his films have been terrible.
Luc Besson is another one. Leon is great! The Fifth Element is loopy, but great! Since then though?
Since Ocean's Eleven, Steven Soderbergh has been more miss than hit for me. I loathed The Girlfriend Experience. Tried to like it. The more I thought about it, the more I hated it. The Good German and Bubble are noble failures. But they're still failures.
I'd like Robert Rodriguez to make something half as fun as Planet Terror again. His last three films have been bad ideas.
I'm still with Spielberg, Eastwood, and Scott, though. We tend to remember the better films, so when a disappointment comes along it shakes our faith a bit, but really, they've all been hit or miss in the past, and they'll continue to be. As for De Palma, while I hated Mission to Mars and The Black Dahlia, I didn't see any of his other recent films. I've heard good things about Femme Fatale. I've heard nothing but bad things about Redacted.
I'd watch that flick.
What absolute bollocks. Wes Anderson is from Houston, Paul Thomas Anderson is from Cleveland (which Anderson do you mean anyway? Rare name, I know), while Darren Aronofsky is from Brooklyn. A quick map consultation should verify that no city mentioned is near Hollywood, nor the assholes therein. Both of Aronofsky's parents were schoolteachers - hardly a rich line of work - and while Wes Anderson's dad might have made some bank advertising, there's nothing to suggest he had a soft upbringing. PTA Anderson - hey, his dad was a host on local TV! And he knew big-name actors like Robert Ridgely! Boy, you sure have his number.
Look, if you don't like those filmmakers, that's fine, but don't use false claims. It makes you look either completely incompetent for failing to make an informed argument, or just a time-wasting liar. Given your posting history, it's not hard to lean toward the latter.
People enjoy reading! People have imagination! People can hear other people's stories and use their creativity and ability to make their own!
I have italicized the words that you may need to look up.
My goodness, what an insular, ignorant way of looking at things. By your logic, Citizen Kane is crap because a pompous guy in his mid-twenties made it.
Sorry that all you seem to do here is troll. Take that shit to the IMDb boards.
Luc Besson is another one. Leon is great! The Fifth Element is loopy, but great! Since then though?
Since Ocean's Eleven, Steven Soderbergh has been more miss than hit for me. I loathed The Girlfriend Experience. Tried to like it. The more I thought about it, the more I hated it. The Good German and Bubble are noble failures. But they're still failures.
I'd like Robert Rodriguez to make something half as fun as Planet Terror again. His last three films have been bad ideas.
I'm still with Spielberg, Eastwood, and Scott, though. We tend to remember the better films, so when a disappointment comes along it shakes our faith a bit, but really, they've all been hit or miss in the past, and they'll continue to be. As for De Palma, while I hated Mission to Mars and The Black Dahlia, I didn't see any of his other recent films. I've heard good things about Femme Fatale. I've heard nothing but bad things about Redacted.
I'd watch that flick.
Look, if you don't like those filmmakers, that's fine, but don't use false claims. It makes you look either completely incompetent for failing to make an informed argument, or just a time-wasting liar. Given your posting history, it's not hard to lean toward the latter.
It's not that they can't be great directors because of their life experiences...it's the kind of films they make. Who the fuck is Aronofski to make such a pompous statement as The Fountain, or Anderson and Magnolia? These guys are full of shit. They should be making genre films. At least they would be genuine.
I have italicized the words that you may need to look up.
My goodness, what an insular, ignorant way of looking at things. By your logic, Citizen Kane is crap because a pompous guy in his mid-twenties made it.
Sorry that all you seem to do here is troll. Take that shit to the IMDb boards.
02-26-12, 07:51 AM
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02-26-12, 10:19 AM
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Well you know the saying "if you're 18 and republican you don't have a heart, but if you're 30 and a democrat you don't have a brain." Sort of the same thing here.
Anderson and Aronofski have never done anything outside of being born rich, growing up hanging around with Hollywood assholes and pretending to be great artists making their crap movies.
Sorry if you like 'em.
Anderson and Aronofski have never done anything outside of being born rich, growing up hanging around with Hollywood assholes and pretending to be great artists making their crap movies.
Sorry if you like 'em.
02-26-12, 10:40 AM
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Absolutely. Fincher's films are not what I would consider meaningless. He puts as much effort into his films as anyone, and has a great attention to detail. Zodiac is an absolute masterpiece.
02-28-12, 08:35 AM
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For me it has to be Tarantino. It all started so well with Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. I did like Jackie Brown, but started to feel i needed more growth and not just trying to recapture 1000 movies he has already seen in his own movie. Kill Bill 1 and 2 did very little for me. The best part being the animated section for me. Four Rooms....well forget that POS. Death Proof is one of the worst movies ever made. He should never be allowed to make another movie simply due to this. And Inglorious Bastards....well i was excited for this knowing that he is a big fan of one of my all time favourite movies (Where Eagles Dare) and thought he might try and recapture that. Well it was a joke of a movie and i found it boring as all hell. At this point i could not care what he does.