Shame (2011, Dir: McQueen) Fasbender and Carey Mulligan
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I posted my own take when the film was first released on disc. http://www.film-matters.net/2012/06/...ick-shame.html
In a nutshell, it doesn't matter what exactly haunts the past of the Fassbender and Mulligan characters. (Although I agree with some of you folks that incest involved.)
The one issue I do have is that their scarred history is so vague that it makes the inevitable conclusion difficult to swallow.
But even with the obvious flaws, its a film that still permeates in my memory, even after the last month. I should rewatch to re-evaluate. It may just be a masterpiece afterall.
In a nutshell, it doesn't matter what exactly haunts the past of the Fassbender and Mulligan characters. (Although I agree with some of you folks that incest involved.)
The one issue I do have is that their scarred history is so vague that it makes the inevitable conclusion difficult to swallow.
Spoiler:
But even with the obvious flaws, its a film that still permeates in my memory, even after the last month. I should rewatch to re-evaluate. It may just be a masterpiece afterall.
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Longest.....five minutes......of....my..........LIFE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdMXvFBOlmE
I joke, mostly. It's a great film. But this was went on painfully too long.
It's the first thing the group that I went with joked about walking out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdMXvFBOlmE
I joke, mostly. It's a great film. But this was went on painfully too long.
It's the first thing the group that I went with joked about walking out.
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Longest.....five minutes......of....my..........LIFE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdMXvFBOlmE
I joke, mostly. It's a great film. But this was went on painfully too long.
It's the first thing the group that I went with joked about walking out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdMXvFBOlmE
I joke, mostly. It's a great film. But this was went on painfully too long.
It's the first thing the group that I went with joked about walking out.
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Longest.....five minutes......of....my..........LIFE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdMXvFBOlmE
I joke, mostly. It's a great film. But this was went on painfully too long.
It's the first thing the group that I went with joked about walking out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdMXvFBOlmE
I joke, mostly. It's a great film. But this was went on painfully too long.
It's the first thing the group that I went with joked about walking out.
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Longest.....five minutes......of....my..........LIFE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdMXvFBOlmE
I joke, mostly. It's a great film. But this was went on painfully too long.
It's the first thing the group that I went with joked about walking out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdMXvFBOlmE
I joke, mostly. It's a great film. But this was went on painfully too long.
It's the first thing the group that I went with joked about walking out.
You are around all these bright lights, different people from all walks of life & so much to do.
And yet you still feel like "God's Lonely Man".
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It's on HBO pretty fucking dark. The relationship with the sister us weird. Who wants to see their sister naked?
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Finally got around to watching this, great movie.
I must disagree with everybody thinking that there was a incest vibe going on, the characters didn't seem that way. I think it had more to do with growing up in a abusive household. Fassbender is about 8 years older than mulligan, he could've been abused and left after graduating, moving the focus of the abuser to his sister. This would be one of the reasons for not wanting to see his sister or deal with his past, his sexual perversion stems out of not wanting to think about what happened to him or her. This is the reason why he can only get it up for prostitutes and quick hook ups, the one time he tries going out with a real girl he fails. He feels guilty for leaving her in that situation, and her being around pulls the plug on his well of emotions.
Fascinating movie, will definitely need to watch it again.
I must disagree with everybody thinking that there was a incest vibe going on, the characters didn't seem that way. I think it had more to do with growing up in a abusive household. Fassbender is about 8 years older than mulligan, he could've been abused and left after graduating, moving the focus of the abuser to his sister. This would be one of the reasons for not wanting to see his sister or deal with his past, his sexual perversion stems out of not wanting to think about what happened to him or her. This is the reason why he can only get it up for prostitutes and quick hook ups, the one time he tries going out with a real girl he fails. He feels guilty for leaving her in that situation, and her being around pulls the plug on his well of emotions.
Fascinating movie, will definitely need to watch it again.
Last edited by sauce07; 05-30-13 at 11:24 AM.
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Finally got around to watching this, great movie.
I must disagree with everybody thinking that there was a incest going on, the characters didn't seem that way. I think it had more to do with growing up in a abusive household. Fassbender is about 8 years older than mulligan, he could've been abused and left after graduating, moving the focus of the abuser to his sister. This would be one of the reasons for not wanting to see his sister or deal with his past, his sexual perversion stems out of not wanting to think about what happened to him or her. This is the reason why he can only get it up for prostitutes and quick hook ups, the one time he tries going out with a real girl he fails. He feels guilty for leaving her in that situation, and her being around pulls the plug on his well of emotions.
Fascinating movie, will definitely need to watch it again.
I must disagree with everybody thinking that there was a incest going on, the characters didn't seem that way. I think it had more to do with growing up in a abusive household. Fassbender is about 8 years older than mulligan, he could've been abused and left after graduating, moving the focus of the abuser to his sister. This would be one of the reasons for not wanting to see his sister or deal with his past, his sexual perversion stems out of not wanting to think about what happened to him or her. This is the reason why he can only get it up for prostitutes and quick hook ups, the one time he tries going out with a real girl he fails. He feels guilty for leaving her in that situation, and her being around pulls the plug on his well of emotions.
Fascinating movie, will definitely need to watch it again.
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Maybe I'm not the movie's intended audience, BUT I wish I had those 2+ hours of my life back. I appreciate the acting, but the themes and execution of the story was just a chore and bore to watch. Didn't like or care about anyone in this movie, which I guess weren't not supposed to. The incest vibe that they gave off was disconcerting given all of the brother/sister nudity together that went on.
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Yeah, so I officially feel bad for anyone with a hot famous sister. This includes the brothers of say Carey Mulligan, Jessica Alba, Scarlett Johansson, etc;
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Scarlett Johansson actually has a twin brother. But you know having an attractive sister means she prob has hot female friends. My older sister's track friends were always over hanging out.
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True.
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I loved this movie. In the space of a few months in 2011 we had this and Drive and both blew me away. I don't think this movie was too harsh in any way. It handled the situation well and truthfully.
And i agree with the poster who mentioned about the abuse of the brother and sister when they were growing up. I did not get so much of an incest vibe (i guess people think of Carey in the shower naked after throwing the towel...but the impression i got from her character is that she needed attention and had no control over what she did to get it. Hence the sobbing call to the guy dumping her, sex with the work friend of Fassbenders and the eventual damage she does at the end).
And i agree with the poster who mentioned about the abuse of the brother and sister when they were growing up. I did not get so much of an incest vibe (i guess people think of Carey in the shower naked after throwing the towel...but the impression i got from her character is that she needed attention and had no control over what she did to get it. Hence the sobbing call to the guy dumping her, sex with the work friend of Fassbenders and the eventual damage she does at the end).
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I think I saw Fassbender licking ass near the end there.
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I finally caught up with this. Didn't find it nearly as good as Hunger. The movie shows us a lot but it conveys little. Compare to Taxi Driver for example. We never know what's going on with the guy only that he's conflicted and in pain. I was hoping for bigger ideas to be explored.